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Hera: Were that we're gonna grace, I'm like, yeah.

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Mariko Pitts: So you haven't taken a nap? What's up, James? Good to see you.

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James Redenbaugh: Hey, guys. How you doing?

00:00:09

Mariko Pitts: Good. You look tired. What's going on? Sleepy? You've been up all night? Pulling some.

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James Redenbaugh: I got six hours of sleep.

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Mariko Pitts: Well, that's not bad. That's like fully engaging. Then, like.

00:00:29

James Redenbaugh: How are you guys doing? What time is it there, Hera?

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Mariko Pitts: Oh, don't ask. It's 5pm oh, no.

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Hera: And you were like, I don't know, like it's just the start of the year and like, I'm just looking at our calendars. Mars, I think, like, this is the craziest your calendar has been, right? And it's only January.

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Mariko Pitts: I don't know. No, it goes away. Yeah. Goes in waves. Sometimes they get a little bit of space and listen, then there's times where I'm like, oh, it was an hour, I gotta go eat. That's it. Anyway, yeah. What's going on? I'm so glad we're able to connect. Did we see each other?

00:01:16

James Redenbaugh: We haven't met this year yet. Happy New Year. I don't know. This year's flying by.

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Mariko Pitts: God, last year flew by. I still can't believe we're in 2026. I think I'm still signing 2025 on receipts and like that, you know, dates of things like that.

00:01:39

James Redenbaugh: I'm still signing things 2017, I just, I can't figure it out.

00:01:47

Mariko Pitts: Oh my God.

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James Redenbaugh: I'm still in the 2017 mindset, so.

00:01:52

Mariko Pitts: Almost a decade away.

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Hera: I'm moving onward. You were thinking we need to do weekly calls so that we could really like sprint through all of these things. But yeah, it's good to be able to have some down time at least.

00:02:05

Mariko Pitts: Downtime? Well, yes, over the holidays.

00:02:11

James Redenbaugh: Yeah, I had a day. I had a day or so. A little bit. Yeah. We've. We've been hard at work at this LMS and figuring out the technology behind looks really boring right now because there's no front end design to it, but the back end is awesome. We've been able to replicate the, the membership login and gate content and get users and it's so cool to start to see that work in an environment that we have full control over, you know, WordPress and member stack and Outsetta for years, where you're locked into whatever they're giving you. And to have the functionality at our fingertips now is, Is really cool because it just unlocks so much possibility to have full control over, you know, what do we want to do when people log in and what does it mean and what are we tracking and how are we tracking it and what do we do with that? And so we're, we're right on track with getting this, this LMS set up. It's good that we're meeting now because we should talk about, you know, content and what's gonna, what's gonna go in there and you know, how exactly do we. Do we want it to, to work and how are we thinking about courses and lessons and things like that? And how do we, how does it relate to the directory and the, and the synergist program and the, and the stuff that we already have? So.

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Mariko Pitts: Well, that's, this is, this is fantastic. And just so I can get a little clarity. So it's been a while since we talked. So the lms, I mean, that's obviously where the course and all the meat of the work really kind of is. You also are mentioning something like logins and the membership part. Was there another. What else are we using? Kind of the front end for those members to kind of log in, then connects to lms. Right. So what did you have, what have you kind of, what did you choose actually? What did you, you know, from the membership portal perspective of how everything kind of plugs into it.

00:04:43

James Redenbaugh: Yeah, it's. I mean, basically it's our own thing now that.

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Mariko Pitts: Our own thing.

00:04:49

James Redenbaugh: Our own thing.

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Mariko Pitts: Okay.

00:04:51

James Redenbaugh: That we've, we've built. So I mean, we'll use Stripe for payment processing and subscriptions and credit cards and things like that. But the member portal, the login will have full control over. We're using Supabase, which is a, you know, a database, a relational database platform. So when somebody logs in or signs up, a record is created on Supabase. But we have full control over how those records are created and what that means for us. So we'll have a fully custom login experience and sign up experience and we can decide, is it a free membership, is it a paid membership? How do we give access to a paid membership? And then what, what happens when they log in? What do they get to see? What don't they get to see? How do they create a profile and how do those profiles show up on the site?

00:06:01

Mariko Pitts: Wow. Okay. Yeah, I'd like to kind of check it out. The other big thing is that Emmanuel was having some second thoughts on the whole amendment course. And so we're probably going to push it back.

00:06:16

James Redenbaugh: Okay.

00:06:17

Mariko Pitts: But we want to move forward. The Choose Love Spoon Bending course.

00:06:22

James Redenbaugh: Cool.

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Mariko Pitts: So and that's with Light Net Zinka and collaboration with Lightning choose love and the whole movement. And so that one which will obviously be a lot even juicier because spoon bending will probably even do. There might be some elements of pre record or I'm not sure live because there's ways to do it digitally.

00:06:47

James Redenbaugh: I'm doing.

00:06:47

Mariko Pitts: To get to a silver spoon without forcing. Is that a silver. All silver?

00:06:53

James Redenbaugh: No.

00:06:53

Mariko Pitts: I hope and I didn't think so. Oh my God, it's. It's dope. I've done it online. I did a whole course with a. Well, it was like an hour call with Zenka and set us up. And my thing is this spinning. It's totally bent up and you have to get a silver spoon. It's so hard to bend silver. So you cannot force it. You can't force it. And then we did forks like you're bending like parts of it. It's. You're. You're doing it with a little bit but it's like no force. So as soon as you like you shift your thoughts and it's in a practice and then you get. Become one with the spoon. Do the whole meditation in Budo and then it's just like when you try to bend it, it's just like. It's as if it feels hotter, it gets hot or something and all of a sudden then you're able to do it. It's so. It's not like the movie where it's just like, you know, we're not doing that yet. But it's simply. You can definitely pretty crazy.

00:07:50

James Redenbaugh: I feel like we're not.

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Mariko Pitts: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it is. It is a thing. It's an actual thing. And I've. I've actually done it have my spoons and flag stuff. So. And she. We did it. We did it with a group of students. A big group of students over like 90 something percent of them did was like they were over the moon with it. So this is something that I think this course with this activity, experiential activity really is Hola movement. Like you know, really opens you up beyond the possibilities what you think you could do and all that. You. That and. And it's good for. For kids up. I mean adults can do it too. It's pretty exciting for all ages. But this. It could be a vast. This thing could be really big and move us into Choose Love Movements audience which is in 120 countries and things like that. So this is a bigger one than I think even the Hol movement app can really kind of hit. But we'll do the home and not Apple. The, the course only course. The course will come after the wait. I think we'll build on momentum from there and then we'll release the weight that. That all the piece and we'll do a different format. I think maybe it's three or four max course, you know, sessions, something like that. But I want, this is good because I want the LMS build. That's why I didn't say earlier. I was like, let's keep it building but then we can test it in the back end and really get it ready for the spoon bending thing that we're really working on now. So it's just moving one side, giving us a little bit more room. But we can, we can start to test it out and then you know, obviously building all the other things that we want in the whole membership portal anyway. You know, but we do want that up because that's a big lift. The LMS piece. Yeah. That we can start to build the course with that in mind with the functionality of it. You. If we need to develop anything else further out, we can, you know, to make it work. Sorry.

00:09:53

Hera: Another thing that we have upcoming is a conversation with DJ Taz where we're. Where we're curating different types of audio content and digital content. So from meditations to yoga classes to playlists and stuff, some of them will be designed. So the goal is for everything to elegantly mesh together. So we're thinking that for that collaboration we could design some of the content to match the course. So just want to share that so that you have, you have something, you have additional context in mind as to other like different types of content format that we may need to be. To include in the lms.

00:10:33

James Redenbaugh: Great. Yeah. I recommend, you know, starting now, organizing that in airtable so that we can connect that up to the CMS and it'll be right, right there. And then ongoingly, you know, DJ Taz and anyone can manage that air table and it'll go right up on the site.

00:10:54

Mariko Pitts: Oh, interesting. Okay. Okay. So airtable is linked to the, to the management of the content.

00:11:00

James Redenbaugh: Yeah, that's what we're doing, the podcast, so.

00:11:05

Mariko Pitts: Right.

00:11:05

James Redenbaugh: Puts the episodes in there and they go right on the site. Yeah. And I don't know if you guys heard, but I'm ambassador of the month next month. So yeah, I'm kind of a big deal.

00:11:25

Mariko Pitts: Okay. It's kind of a big deal. I didn't know that. I didn't know that.

00:11:30

James Redenbaugh: So basically you're basically talking to a celebrity, right?

00:11:35

Mariko Pitts: I mean that's pretty much what it is. They don't even know all about, you know, they don't even know half the time things that we know about you and all the octurian that can really come through here.

00:11:45

Hera: I think we need to do to have calls more often at this time because like. Yeah, like with my 5am brain and your like sleepy state. This is like such a good combination.

00:11:58

Mariko Pitts: Yeah, it's hilarious.

00:12:01

James Redenbaugh: I need to send Jill five things about myself. Has got to be one of them.

00:12:08

Mariko Pitts: Yeah, it's got to be one in there. I'll just totally giggle my way through that one.

00:12:15

James Redenbaugh: But also I can't let too many people know. I don't know.

00:12:18

Mariko Pitts: No, I was thinking that too.

00:12:19

James Redenbaugh: You know who's got beef with the Arcturians? I don't know.

00:12:22

Mariko Pitts: I know. Damn shape. That's funny.

00:12:29

James Redenbaugh: But yeah, sounds great. The, all the membership stuff we're doing right now is, you know, it's for the lms, but it's also for the, the directory and the synergist profiles.

00:12:42

Mariko Pitts: And why don't we look at that then start developing that out more too? Because I think that's obviously a big piece of it, the directory piece especially. Yeah, we're going to want to bring people in even if it's, you know, there are people who still want to or already are joining list the map and things like that. I think we need to really kind of get them more engaged and bring that forward a bit more too. I guess. I gotta look. I haven't looked at what Phase one in what we all have in Phase one anyway. I can't remember. So what we're all building.

00:13:19

Hera: We actually since Marco said that. Yeah. Maybe we could go through phase one, James. And let me know if. I mean I'd compare that to our timeline to see if we are still on track or if we need to like change some dates so that from my end, from a project development standpoint I could also like help support that.

00:13:41

Mariko Pitts: Process.

00:13:42

James Redenbaugh: Yeah. So we are on track but we planned to. Really focus on the LMS and the course and the membership login. But if the. When, when would the spoon bending course start?

00:14:11

Mariko Pitts: Not right away, that's for sure.

00:14:14

James Redenbaugh: February 10th.

00:14:15

Mariko Pitts: Yeah, I mean I think what it is is that we, we're going to have to move probably into some of the phase two stuff as we can start to build out and bring in, I don't know, maybe it's late February, early March when that other course will come, you know we have to. We're still planning that out and working all the details out, but I think once we have the curriculum drawn up, it'll be filming and I think most likely to be pre recorded so we can plug it in and still develop from there. But it's going to be a little bit more time than we thought with the whole course that was going to be live recorded and then kind of content plugged in and all that, you know, so. Yeah, I mean, I would be. I think it's fine to have, you know, really good MVP working for LMS or wherever you are with that. And then once we start putting more stuff in, we can start building it out further or finding it more. I don't know exactly where you're at, what the level is. Yeah, as you said, it's pretty bare now. Right. We just need. It needs stuff. Right. And front end design at that point.

00:15:25

James Redenbaugh: Yeah.

00:15:26

Hera: Should we. Okay, should we go through the, the, the roadmap and just see. So we just see which parts you want to prioritize now more, given the change in.

00:15:41

Mariko Pitts: Well, hold on a second. The lms, you've got pretty much the back end developed. It's already operational, right? For the most part, yeah. The front end design is where you need Munia. Is Munia already kind of designing anything yet?

00:15:56

James Redenbaugh: Not yet. Not yet.

00:15:57

Mariko Pitts: Okay. Okay, so then that's maybe where I think we might hold off and come back to that then.

00:16:03

James Redenbaugh: And, and front end development also, you know, actually building out the interfaces. But I'm saying if we're, I think that we could switch focus from polishing out the LMS to doing more in the directory system than we were planning on right now to make that super solid so that people can actually log in and update their profiles and then integrate the assessment system and like plug in the different pieces that we have already to make them more usable so people can, you know, maybe they have a profile but they haven't done the assessment. They can do the assessment and get results and then also get suggestions of who they should connect to. Then we can also think about like, oh, my battery died over there, I'm just going to switch my camera. We can think about who, you know, what other kinds of input could we be collecting from these people as they're engaging with the content, so. And the profiles. So if they're here, we are just gonna put you on my phone if there.

00:17:38

Mariko Pitts: Oh, no.

00:17:42

James Redenbaugh: All right, that'll do.

00:17:46

Mariko Pitts: There we go.

00:17:48

James Redenbaugh: Kind of a weird angle, but all right.

00:17:50

Mariko Pitts: Just looking up at your chin at this Point.

00:17:56

James Redenbaugh: If we make a suggestion like you should talk to this person about this, maybe we also want to invite a kind of rapport like what did you guys talk about? You know, have like actually have a meeting and make an artifact from it and share, you know, and put that into, into the space and we can think about, you know, can we, can we start to visualize connections between people these people met? And now I can. On the map, I can see a line between them. I don't know how possible that is, but I'm just kind of thinking, thinking out loud because we want to unsilo people and get them connected and get them doing things and you know, long term, we want labs, we want action, we want people supporting projects, we want people bringing projects, we want, you know, dope, creative stuff happening.

00:19:02

Mariko Pitts: Right.

00:19:03

James Redenbaugh: So what, you know, what's the low hanging fruit and the seeds of that that we can plant now.

00:19:09

Mariko Pitts: Yeah, exactly. All right, I, I like it. I think that's definitely where we want to pivot and start putting our focus in on that and then we'll save the rest. That needs to happen in the lms, which I think, I mean, how long do you think realistically, once we come back to that will take to finalize the LMS piece? I mean, I still think we should probably test it, just put some stuff in there, work it. I'm sure you're hammering at that anyway. Maybe someone of one of us tested it and just gonna experience it too. And then we'll just come back to that when we actually have some more, I guess when the first course starts to really ramp up into we're prepared, you know, really getting prepared here and.

00:19:49

James Redenbaugh: Yeah, well, we're going to keep developing it in anyway. I'll just put it on a slightly slower timeline.

00:19:56

Mariko Pitts: Right, right.

00:19:57

James Redenbaugh: I, you know, I want to, to keep moving that along anyway.

00:20:02

Mariko Pitts: Okay.

00:20:04

James Redenbaugh: But I was planning on like really throwing a bunch of my time at it in the second half of this month. But I can, I can shift more of my focus into this, into the directory and plugging in these systems.

00:20:20

Mariko Pitts: Okay, I think that's wise at this point. Just because we're not gonna, we're not gonna need the LMS until a little bit later than we needed we thought we needed it. Yeah, okay. All right. That sounds good. How'd you do with the budget anyway?

00:20:38

James Redenbaugh: So far with the budget, like for.

00:20:42

Mariko Pitts: Phase one budget stuff, was it kind of working itself out?

00:20:48

James Redenbaugh: You mean, what budget did we end up with? How much have I spent so far?

00:20:51

Mariko Pitts: I don't think Yeah, I mean it's more of like are we on track? Is there anything else that you saw that needs to come in or that we might have missed for the kind of cost wise? I'm not saying that. Just trying to see if there's anything we miss now that we're kind of in it already.

00:21:07

James Redenbaugh: You know, I think it's a good budget.

00:21:11

Mariko Pitts: Yeah.

00:21:12

James Redenbaugh: And yeah I think we. It's a solid budget for doing a, a whole lot over the next few weeks.

00:21:25

Mariko Pitts: Okay. So we can good to go to get at least going using the bit of what we've already got for phase one and then we'll just bring more money back in for. We need to invoice again for more phase one or phase two. I mean in part of finishing up phase one, I guess. Okay.

00:21:42

James Redenbaugh: And we're also doing that homepage stuff and then new about page things like that.

00:21:47

Mariko Pitts: Okay.

00:21:48

James Redenbaugh: Yeah.

00:21:49

Mariko Pitts: Okay.

00:21:51

James Redenbaugh: Yeah.

00:21:52

Mariko Pitts: What do we. Since we're shifting then what's our new. What do we need to do to prepare for the directory piece and all that?

00:22:02

James Redenbaugh: Good question. Well, I think we should definitely start having weekly meetings and because I want to you know, vibe with you guys around what, what features to focus on. How do we want to think about it. But right now it feels clear to me on next steps because we already have the synergist functionality, we're working on the, the membership capability so we need to connect those things. People can log in and edit their profiles.

00:22:39

Mariko Pitts: Right.

00:22:41

James Redenbaugh: And while we're. That's a big technical task while we're figuring that out over the next couple weeks we can also think about and design together of what it's going to look like on the inside when we, when somebody logs in and they see the other profiles. So of course we want to have the map but also do we want a big grid? Do we want to make it searchable? What information are we putting out if people are answering these assessment questions like do how much of that assessment do we put in their profile and we can get creative. Do we want to think about like archetypes or gamify this in some way where based on what I've answered we can build an automation that you know, Pixa for an example, a tarot card of my, you know, of my personality or what I'm doing in the world or even generates an icon for me. I just built an automation yesterday for the sources energy circles because we're redoing their website and the circles are kind of lame and I figured out how to just how to feed them into an automation and create an icon automatically for like 30 different ones in a similar style. And it's like that's pretty cool. That's great. You know, so we could do things like. Or the numerology thing. Do we want to make that available?

00:24:26

Mariko Pitts: I definitely think that's on there for sure. That that thing you created is awesome.

00:24:30

James Redenbaugh: Yeah. So yeah. And then, and then we want to get people in there using it. You know, beta testers, we should think about them as. And use it ourselves and start a backlog of features as well. So as we're using things as we're developing things and having new ideas, where are we registering those ideas so that we can put them in the pipeline?

00:25:03

Mariko Pitts: Okay. Okay. We also need kind of to update the assessment question for the directory, like the main questionnaire, like obviously an add on to what people have already developed. So that's not like white for example, like some of those questions. Right. Because then are you thinking like the people who have already created an account and it's already an airtable, we would kind of go back to them and say hey, update your profile basically. Right. Login, create your login, do this whole thing. And then it would be like they update their profile and then answer the remaining questions that they haven't kind of gotten to. Anybody new would just get the first. The brand new set of assessment questions. Right. Is that what you're thinking or.

00:25:49

James Redenbaugh: Yeah.

00:25:50

Mariko Pitts: How would you want to do that transition?

00:25:53

James Redenbaugh: Well, I'm thinking eventually we could actually have multiple assessments and different nodes in there where, you know, we, we want to make it easy for some people to log in and put some basic information. Hey, I'm in the movement. I've got five minutes. Here's my website, here's my purpose statement, here's where I am in the world. And later I'll do this assessment and when I do, you know, I'll get this graphic on my profile that where.

00:26:23

Mariko Pitts: People can get gamified that you're talking about. Yeah, that's another gamifying way.

00:26:27

James Redenbaugh: Yeah. And I, you know, I can do the hall movement assessment, I can do the numerology assessment, I can do the IQ or whatever else we have.

00:26:35

Mariko Pitts: And it all adds to your profile too. It adds more cool things to your profile as well. I like it. I like it.

00:26:43

James Redenbaugh: Yeah. And then the, the kinds of automations we run can get more and more intelligent where if we have a number of people in there with a number of assessments we can ask, enable them to ask more powerful questions of like who in this Network should I team up to do this very specific thing and how should we think about doing it? And you know, at that point we should be thinking about like that'd be a good paid feature, you know, if we have a membership platform that people are, are paying for. Because also the, the, the data load of, you know, of taking all. If somebody has four assessments of data in their profile and we're running that through an automation, it's, it's going to get expensive. If we have 100 people doing that. Not like crazy expensive. But right now if somebody fills out an assessment, maybe it's like one cent. But it's pretty simple questions down the road. Also as these models get more intelligent, I'm thinking about that we can take more data points into account and do more complicated transformation and that's a big value add. Also because we all have access to GPT and CLAUDE and we can ask them any kind of question. But only us or only people in this, you know, on the inside of this will have the ability to ask questions of the whole network, you know, source the intelligence of what's here and ask like oh, you know, I need a project manager, I need somebody to consult with me on this project that I'm building or I'm seeking funding or I have a bunch of funding and I'm trying to figure out what to do with it. We can make agents that they can talk to that can take the whole of our network and output here's, here's.

00:29:02

Mariko Pitts: So and so who's in our network. That is amazing and will be perfectly reach out to you based on that. That's next level.

00:29:09

James Redenbaugh: Yeah.

00:29:10

Mariko Pitts: So the AI just learns our entire ecosystem and knows everybody in it.

00:29:14

James Redenbaugh: Yeah.

00:29:16

Mariko Pitts: So it's like intelligent matching on steroids based off of your personalized question.

00:29:20

James Redenbaugh: Exactly, exactly.

00:29:22

Mariko Pitts: Well, we definitely want to do huge. Yeah, that's huge. That's a really powerful way of utilizing AI or your ecosystem.

00:29:35

Hera: One of the things that I'm thinking about given that we, the goal is to ship everything before the wave and it feels like we're starting a bit late on the other modules. I'm thinking, I'm looking at the. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Maybe we need to change some of the, we need to revisit the roadmap and just see, just adjust the dates given where we are right now. But maybe like say for example assessments December 15th to January 15th. Yeah, but anyway the reason I'm asking that is because I'm thinking say for example the membership platform, the LMS and which I'm so excited about and the directory, I feel that they're relatively a heavier lift. Let me know, James, what you think about it. If, If I'm seeing it correctly.

00:30:26

Mariko Pitts: But.

00:30:27

Hera: But like, the thing that I'm excited about is the. Another thing. I mean, we're all excited about everything, right? But assessments, I feel could be like, I remember when you shipped the assessment, the, the initial numerology assessment and also the whole movement assessment. It feels like a, A, A quick, A quick, relatively quicker process. So I'm wondering whether we can do it in such a way that we're launching an assessment like every week or every 10 days as we're like, doing.

00:30:56

Mariko Pitts: Doing the bigger.

00:30:57

Hera: The bigger parts of the roadmap, like the bigger aspects.

00:31:01

Mariko Pitts: How many assessments do you think you want, though? Like.

00:31:08

Hera: No, because I'm. The reason I'm asking that is because about whether it's two or three. One of the, One of the things that we could do in the. In the weeks leading to the wave is start like putting out like testing these assessments but deciding it with. With While.

00:31:23

Mariko Pitts: Make.

00:31:23

Hera: While using it, as well as a way to gather data, initial data for the app. And also like promoting the way of promoting everybody, like members of the community, whether it's Scarlet Scores or DJ Test. And I think you could see how I'm like, trying to like, connect things in our previous meetings with like BJ Das, for example, and Scarlett. So the reason I'm asking this is because I also want to take into consideration linking at the back end because essentially it would be easier for us to build the main platform first before launching the assessments. But I'm wondering with the current setup right now if that's also not as difficult compared before. Well, oh, and lastly, lastly, because, like, say, for example, like, we have upcoming events like the Ripple events and the Miracle Club. And I'm like, thinking, oh, this could be a really good way to kind of remind people to update their profile and test this assessment. And as. As we're doing that, we're getting. We're gathering more data and by the time we have like the custom membership and like the directory already, like, we have a lot of data that we could plug into the system already. So when we test it, it feels more vibrant. But like, that's me, like, thinking out loud.

00:32:40

James Redenbaugh: Yeah, when are those events?

00:32:46

Hera: Hold on. But yeah, we have events every month. So we have like, yeah, more like three Ripple, Miracle Club and then the Meditations. We have three events every month at the.

00:32:59

Mariko Pitts: At the very least.

00:33:04

James Redenbaugh: Yeah. So I The, There's creating the assessments and then there's, you know, what we can do with the, the result.

00:33:21

Mariko Pitts: And right now there's. Yeah.

00:33:29

James Redenbaugh: They, I think they're going to become a lot more powerful when people can like browse the results of other people they know or other people.

00:33:39

Mariko Pitts: I think so. Yeah.

00:33:42

James Redenbaugh: And. But I like the idea of having a, an assessment publication schedule and meeting up with other people to, to create them. Like kind of like instead of a podcast episode, it's like this month's.

00:34:05

Mariko Pitts: Yeah.

00:34:06

James Redenbaugh: Assessment is with, you know, Don Beck who consulted on this spiral dynamics assessment or, or Richard Rohr. You know, it's, it's being keys in the context of the hollow movement and, or a Vedic astrologer and we use the Vedic astrology API and then you get, you know, on your profile your gene keys and your Vedic astrology and, and like it becomes another symbol in your, in your ecosystem.

00:34:41

Mariko Pitts: Yeah, I know, that's super cool.

00:34:44

Hera: You know, kind of like multiple launch campaigns leading to the, to the wave.

00:34:48

Mariko Pitts: It.

00:34:48

Hera: We're kind of like essentially doing that, but like from an app perspective. So excited guys.

00:34:57

James Redenbaugh: And then the big. I think the most important assessment before the wave will be what should I do at the wave? You know, how should I plan my time? Who should I meet at the wave?

00:35:12

Mariko Pitts: We need. Definitely need assessments for matching participants before they arrive.

00:35:19

James Redenbaugh: Yeah. And taking into account are you doing the preliminary stuff, you know, are you going to be there thereafter? And then it can be. It. We could get really specific. Like you should be in this breakout group with these five people.

00:35:34

Mariko Pitts: Or it can turn into hold ons.

00:35:37

James Redenbaugh: Yeah. You guys, you know, have this holon track and, and so let's start planning that now and like whiteboarding it.

00:35:49

Mariko Pitts: In.

00:35:50

James Redenbaugh: In parallel to your wave planning so we can think about what, you know, what technology will support the ultimate experience for people in Portugal.

00:36:07

Mariko Pitts: Okay. Yeah, absolutely. So let's see then. Let's. I guess we should look at really quickly then the Aaron, the rollout plan and what we're focusing on. Where is that? It's at the very bottom. No, I'm in. Yes, at the bottom.

00:36:28

James Redenbaugh: At the bottom. And this is kind of a high level sketch of pushes on these different systems. But you'll notice there's like V1 and you know, V2. And it doesn't mean we've actually started making some good progress on that assessment. Systems ending here doesn't mean that I'm done building systems. We need a V2 in here because they're, you know, or it should just Be like that because that'll continue.

00:37:04

Mariko Pitts: Okay. Okay. Yeah. So is there a specific timeline then that we want to kind of for the directory system, the initial kind of the assessments and the bigger. Should we kind of design it out a little bit what we initially want to start with like where is the kind of leading development here and then where it's going to go? Because I love the vision of what you're talking about. I think that's kind of, kind of like tuned into what my vision was too. Has been hoping really the. I mean it's down to the customization of like, you know, things that I've been seeing. Like that whole soul guy thing is like you asked the question and I'm like well would hope that it responds. It responded to something that was related to an actual something in our ecosystem that it learned it. Like it picked it up, you know, you fed it, it learned it. It was like more a GPT and could just immediately give you that information. But it looks like that's what we're leading heading to anyway. I love the gamified assessments. I think it's fantastic to really there's something rewarding at the other end. There's more for me as a the collective to learn about someone else. It not only the information that I give it feeds the whole, you know, if there's like, even if there ends up being, you know, the AI, like if I say hey, I don't have a job and I'm interested in this and use my profile to see if there's anyone seeking anything that's in alignment with what I'm interested, what I'm interested in and it can do that. You know, that's a hell of a really cool thing and a sell point to be in this type of community. Yeah, you know, that's very sticky, pretty sticky to be able to have access to that. And then people can put jobs in the job in forums and things like that. Things that we might have where they put that information. The more information that gets uploaded, you know, or events and things like that, the more that it's recommended to me based off of my questions or the things that I'm, you know, I'm seeking.

00:39:08

James Redenbaugh: Yeah.

00:39:09

Mariko Pitts: So there's a lot of incentive and stickiness to using getting inside of something like this. But it's also the stickier and the more customizable that in intuit or in tune to that person by all the assessments and the fun game of the way that we're doing this, the better it is for us to actually get funding also to continue building this out and the whole movement in general. So this is something we're utilizing AI and these tools in a way that I don't know has been utilized yet, but it's going to be a really great like MVP for other people to be looking at this like, like you guys are really on the leading edge of using these tools that are just released, but in a more conscious way to bring community together, belonging together in a different way, transparency together in a different way, in a more tailored way too. So I think this is quite fantastic, the end result of it. But where do we want to start? Reverse engineering? Like, what are the first couple things that we think besides logging in, you know, coming into your profile, changing those profiles, a few assessments to learn about each other. Obviously we need some kind of connection, being able to connect with the people that are there, reach out to them. I think that these are things where we can have meditations and all the things that we have developed that we're developing with TAs, like available. These can be lead magnets to get people to joining our, you know, membership. They can also be things that after you, maybe after you sign up, it's that first in a personal gift that comes to you in your email with your intelligent matching of like, hey, you should reach out to these people. Here's a podcast and you should watch and you know, here's, you know, something like that. You know, I also think we should probably tune into people, how people are feeling and provide something to them with that. And we can create. One of the things that we talk about with Taz is that we can create music. We can create a lot of different things that are vibrational, just tones specific to vibes that need or shifting energy. So if like I'm feeling very, I'm in grieved mode, I can actually say I'm, I'm grieving. And then we could, the AI can then recommend or give them an actual track, a music track or something, an audio or a meditation or something. Because there's a relation to what they just said.

00:41:41

James Redenbaugh: Yeah, we could even once we have enough regular users have like a weekly feeling query with like a six way node with six different emotions and you like drag the circle to represent where you're feeling.

00:42:01

Mariko Pitts: Yeah.

00:42:01

James Redenbaugh: And then that kind of creates a, like a data set for that that week. Yeah. And then over the, over time we could see visually feelings changing based on what's going on in the world and in the.

00:42:18

Mariko Pitts: I think that's fantastic. Yeah, it was like this, it's a cloud map. Essentially the illusions of what's happening in the field.

00:42:25

James Redenbaugh: Yeah. You just drag it. Like I'm feeling excited, you know, nervous grief.

00:42:31

Mariko Pitts: Yeah.

00:42:33

James Redenbaugh: And, and you know, maybe each one has a color and then when you put them all together, a really neat thing.

00:42:41

Mariko Pitts: We gotta make that. It's gotta be in there. That's so cool.

00:42:44

James Redenbaugh: Cool.

00:42:45

Mariko Pitts: That's a great visual, you know, thing where it's just like what's happening. Especially can you imagine people coming in after like the US election, you know, on like November 5th. What I would go into that and then put my feelings and just to see what happens. And see what happens. Exactly. Anything could be anything that's like, yeah, you know, oh, we're about to bomb Iran. Like what does that feel like for the collective? And see what, you know, people are, you know, experiencing.

00:43:16

James Redenbaugh: That could be a draw too.

00:43:18

Mariko Pitts: Like exactly.

00:43:19

James Redenbaugh: Are you feeling disconnected and overwhelmed by all the chaos in the world? Like come here and see that there are other people have in feeling bodies, you know, and it's not just a content website. But how can we see that people are, are here and leaving things and you know, interacting with it beyond just like a, like or a subscribe.

00:43:49

Mariko Pitts: That's something you can pretty easily create based on colors and feelings and dragging into kind of. What do you think?

00:43:59

James Redenbaugh: I see how, I see how it would, how it would be done. You know, we, we want to prioritize our. The pipeline, but it should be in there for sure.

00:44:09

Mariko Pitts: I think we need to add that in the pipeline. I like that a lot.

00:44:13

James Redenbaugh: Somebody just shared because I'm working on this, this always open video conference room and we want a live stream of a candle in there and somebody shared on grateful.com or gratitude.org, david Steinl Ross's website, he has like this light a candle thing where you can fill out a form and it lights a candle and then it like burns down over 48 hours. But you can see hundreds of people lighting these candles and it's a pretty basic dumb interface. But that alone is really cool. And it's so simple. But we can now we can do much cooler stuff than that.

00:44:59

Hera: Oh my God. I didn't know about that website. That's so cool.

00:45:02

Mariko Pitts: Yeah, that's really cool. Yeah.

00:45:09

James Redenbaugh: Like register. Register a feeling, drop a. Make a ripple.

00:45:16

Mariko Pitts: Oh my. Sorry.

00:45:17

Hera: You're saying my keywords. I need to, I need to show James what I'm like what I'm working on. Because I think a lot of this would be in the, in the whole movement App. You remember when I contacted you last year, James, about what, what I was working on? This is exactly.

00:45:32

James Redenbaugh: Yeah, it's tracking.

00:45:35

Mariko Pitts: It is part of that. Yeah.

00:45:36

Hera: Gratitude, prayers and miracles. So when you said that right now I'm like, oh, I need to talk to James.

00:45:43

James Redenbaugh: Awesome.

00:45:44

Mariko Pitts: Yeah. There are definitely some things that we should probably surface in your, you know what you come up with that can really play into because back then I.

00:45:53

Hera: Was like I put that together without plans for the whole movement app. Right. Like that was before we had conversations with James and now that we're working on it, even when I was like looking at it the other day, the other day I was like, oh, this has to be on the home. This, this, this feature has to be the whole movement. But I feel like the other things I, I also feel strongly about the engine for good as well. I feel like this could be good foundation for the engine of engine for good. But we could have another conversation about that.

00:46:25

Mariko Pitts: We can, we should probably talk about that next week though because as a point 90 bring it up because we are going to move forward with micro grants very soon and we want to announce some for people who are forming whole on soon. And I think that's also why we need to actually think about it directory because we're going to need to invite Holons getting on so that we can review those whole lawns. And in applications an application would be in the directory. You become a member, you do your application and then you're considered for grants. And also we need to know that if you're attending, you might even be able to make more money off of those grants because there's some select group that are rewarded at the event. So there's. That's a juicy incentive for people who are home on to get in, show us their transformative action to be operating. And part of that gamified way that they're using our system as part of the beta group actually leads them to actually a check at the end of the day at the wave. So something to keep in mind because that's actually going to help us build in the first beta group of the whole lawns that are going to be activated more active because they have incentive to be active that we can get a lot more data in that from them too.

00:47:36

James Redenbaugh: Awesome.

00:47:37

Hera: Do you want me to organize my thoughts around it for a call on Friday so that by the by, by the time we meet James next week we have some initial thoughts about other stuff that we could incorporate in the. And that.

00:47:50

Mariko Pitts: Yeah, I think so. Yeah. But Thinking, having James think about that too now because the membership portal obviously, yeah, we'll, you know, people can do monthly payments and join us and things like that. We'll figure out how that works for what comes with their membership. But, but opening the door even, maybe even prior to memberships. I don't know how this would work for. But it's the jump starting of that engine for good because a lot of the donations that are coming or donations and membership payments that are coming in are actually going into continual to fuel the grants and the whole movement and all these other projects and organizations that are doing good work too. So applications can continue at different segments, there are different quarters and the funds that are coming in that we're collecting through memberships actually are going into fueling more projects over time. So it's just an incentivized, you know, doing good, rewarding for doing good. And essentially even though I'm paying 15amonth, it's not, I see the benefit for myself. It's really benefiting the collective projects that are all in the whole, that I can see and connect with and dive deeper in, you know, and it'll be announced all those projects that are basically being rewarded every quarter or something. But we need to, we need to start. I think it's quite good that we start with the wave with the first initial grant program. So it can look differently for the initial one at the wave than it would ongoingly in a digital. You know how it would be announced every quarter or something. You know where we're open for accepting, accepting grant applications for a certain. While it's closed, they're awarded, they're open, flows are rewarded, you know, that sort of thing. That would be a typical flow, but this one is going to be more the initiatory launch. So there's more incentive, incentive for them to go to the wave. There's more incentive for them to operate and use our system because they would need to actually create their member profile for us to get more information about the whole lawn. Their application is linked to their profile which we would have access to. You know, we want them to do all the assessments that are possible and things like that. Yeah. And then from there we would see them at the wave and then basically do some rewarding at, at that time.

00:50:23

James Redenbaugh: Awesome.

00:50:25

Mariko Pitts: So yeah, that's something to think about because we're going to need to build that in now actually for the initial kind of design of over the next month or so. You know, if we do a month out or just really getting the directory up the initial assessments, making sure that membership loss system works, everybody logged in, what lives in there, the front end design of that, you know, all that aspects of that. And then also being ready to accept applications and, you know, new home loans are coming in, obviously new ambassadors, anybody who's in the synergy program will come in anyway. But we really are going to be, we're going to see more home lawns and groups coming in because we're going to be putting money out there, you know, so, you know, it's nothing like when you bottle it up or bundle it at the same time. When you need people in your system, there's no better time to say, hey, there's opportunity for money and you got to do. All you got to do really is use the system and show us what you're up to. Yeah, it's a lot easier to bring a lot more people in at that point. So.

00:51:30

James Redenbaugh: Yeah, very cool. Yeah, I'm. As you're saying this, I'm having a vision of like a new version of the map where, okay, the 3D globe is really cool that we can spin it and see people around it, but I feel like a, a map where we can see the whole Earth at once.

00:52:04

Mariko Pitts: Like more of a space profile. Like a space with the Earth kind of in there. And like what are you looking at?

00:52:10

James Redenbaugh: Like my bio regions map up there. Oh, more broken up, more just like flat projection like on the Purpose Earth website, you know.

00:52:20

Mariko Pitts: Okay. So flat. Okay.

00:52:22

James Redenbaugh: And then we can do more. If we did that custom, like Purpose Earth is just code. It's not using mapbox or anything. And latitude and longitude, we could start to not only see people, but we could see like where is funding come coming from and where's it going, who's supporting what, who's. And then who's connecting to whom and like what's happening on the planet now and over time and you know, what, what event? There could be different layers and it could be this big landscape or a big, you know, visualization that we can use to vision together about the world we want to create.

00:53:15

Mariko Pitts: I think that's pretty cool. What does that look like though, in the design? Is that some. Is that more difficult? Is it still using obviously mapbox within something else? Like what else is integrated into that for all that other stuff to be kind of connecting the dots and showing.

00:53:30

James Redenbaugh: Funding and yeah, I think instead of, you know, if instead of mapbox we used a coordinate system here. I was just trying to mock up something really quick. It's. I'm playing with these Animated paths, which, you know, right now are just moving in random directions, but they're following a mouse. But they could literally be flowing between people on the map or profiles or centers or, you know, in different colors, could represent different things and anything's possible.

00:54:11

Mariko Pitts: You know, it's kind of like a more customized. In real time kind of. Or not necessarily in real time, but more customized look at what's happening from, you know, those, those images of money moving across the world. Older people lit up on the globe and it's like communication is happening. It's just like, you know, something like that. But it's just more actually based off of data that we have in our system. It's actually data. So like, even though you're seeing something going from Morocco to like San Francisco and that line maybe indicates a grant, there's. That's an actual money line that's real. You know, it might not be happening real time, but it actually is real or something that we're actually seeing movement and impact. You're seeing impact.

00:55:00

James Redenbaugh: Yeah.

00:55:01

Mariko Pitts: I like that.

00:55:03

James Redenbaugh: Cool.

00:55:04

Mariko Pitts: I like that a lot. I can see how busy that though would get.

00:55:09

James Redenbaugh: It can get really busy. So we would want like filtering to look at, to look at like layers.

00:55:20

Hera: You know, what's crazy about this is we're never gonna run out of capabilities because of, because of AI and we're gonna go where I could imagine us getting crazy over the next couple of months.

00:55:37

Mariko Pitts: Yeah, I don't want to lose people on the map too. So we definitely need to have filtering so I can see. Oh, who are the bathrooms? Who are the whole lines? Oh yeah, let me see what the grants that have been made, where did they go? You know, And I like that as long as there's filters, I'm all for it.

00:55:56

James Redenbaugh: Yeah, yeah.

00:55:58

Hera: Like, like kind of. There always has to be a simpler layer, a way to simplify it for the non Arcturians.

00:56:05

James Redenbaugh: Uhhuh, exactly.

00:56:07

Mariko Pitts: They can't see the whole world like we can, but you know.

00:56:10

James Redenbaugh: Yeah, but then we, we want something for the Arcturians to like.

00:56:18

Hera: Yeah.

00:56:18

James Redenbaugh: And the thing is like not everything we we make needs to be used by everyone. And the. I think the main, like there's no single ideal user. If we had an ideal user, it would be a Holon, like a whole single group of people. And maybe one person in the group has a more big picture bird's eye view. They're the kind of person who's wanting to look at big complicated things and you know, maybe another person in the group is the, the Liaison or the administrator, you know, and we want them to be sharing data and inputting stuff and engaging in another way, and maybe another person in the group is doing something else, but we can think about that kind of thing.

00:57:13

Mariko Pitts: Okay.

00:57:15

James Redenbaugh: And a precedent I'm thinking of for this kind of thing. There's a game I like called Humankind, which is. There's a lot of similar games like this out there, but it's like a growing civilization over time, and it has all these different views where you can zoom out at the territory you've discovered and see what's happening in culture or religion or trade, you know, or. Or battle. And I feel like video games lead the edge of what's possible digitally. And as these technologies are evolving so fast, we need to start thinking about how can the interfaces we create embody more of what is common in video games. Because, you know, we don't want people that we, you know, we don't want to exclude boomers or people that we don't need. People want people to feel like they need to learn something in order to use a website. But I feel like we can make things more generally have more going on and more dynamic interfaces, especially as.

00:58:43

Mariko Pitts: You.

00:58:44

James Redenbaugh: Know, over time, more and more users will have been born into a digital age and find these kind of interfaces easier to understand.

00:59:01

Mariko Pitts: Yeah, I think the amazing thing is that because we're building us upon life, I guess, technology that can be updated and grow, it's something. It feels like it can grow with us because anything with AI and all that stuff, as long as it can just really quickly get outdated because everything is changing every week, you know, but it feels like in even like what you're talking about, like with maps and stuff, being on the leading edge and understanding these things and playing with these new tools that most people are still afraid of actually jumping into, is actually a really good thing for us. So really appreciative that you are already just one of those, already on the leading edge and playing with these things, because you're also identifying areas where they can grow and simplify. But, you know, grow is the biggest thing, you know.

00:59:53

James Redenbaugh: Yeah, yeah. And we're building everything to be interoperable so that when there's a new agent, for example, you know, the next Claude that's more intelligent, we can swap it out in the assessment. So the assessment still works. It's just more accurate, you know, gives better results.

01:00:17

Mariko Pitts: Exactly.

01:00:18

James Redenbaugh: Or a better image generator. We can use the same automations that we've built. It's just that what it generates Gets better.

01:00:28

Mariko Pitts: Gets better. Yeah.

01:00:31

James Redenbaugh: So that's, that's really cool. A lot of things will just be updated automatically basically. And parts can be swapped in and out. And. Now and in 2026 the only thing, the only things we're working on are things like we're talking about today. So it's like you're our biggest client right now. But also with all the other projects we have lined up for the rest of the year and other people we're working with, it's similar kinds of systems and. These different. We're building all these discrete parts to plug and play together really well so that as we improve one thing, it's easy to update it across the whole, the whole network. As we figure something out over here, we figure it out across the whole, you know, we can improve something over here. And then it also opens up more pathways for inter organizational sharing. So if you guys have a course running on your LMS that we've built for you and somebody else has a course running on their LMS that we've built for them, you can run the same courses on different platforms at the same time.

01:02:09

Mariko Pitts: So that's crazy. I love that.

01:02:12

James Redenbaugh: So somebody in a yoga community, they have all their yoga courses, but maybe they have one course that is, you know, would be really accessible for Hollow Movement. Hollow Movement wants that course on their platform. It's a matter of not only not even copying and pasting because the content can sync instantly. They run their course on their platform, but for your users, they're experiencing it as being on your platform. But all the people are connected together. Even though they're coming from different communities, they feel like they're in it together. And then they're also being exposed to the other community. Like, oh, there's a whole community of yoga learners over here and I'm going to get more into that. And they get exposed to Hollow Movement. I'm like, oh, there's a whole community of these crazy people doing cool things around the planet. I want to get exposed to that.

01:03:09

Mariko Pitts: Okay, this is fantastic.

01:03:11

James Redenbaugh: While we're talking about far out and end goal ideas, that's yeah. Big thing that I'm considering as well.

01:03:19

Mariko Pitts: No, I mean that's fantastic. I mean interoperability is huge. And I think that's the key to like getting out of these siloed things, especially organizational stuff. And we're just immediately it's like, oh, you want to partner or what does that even. It redefines how partnerships can even work now, you know, and I think that's. That's what we need to do. It's like, you know, right now we're still in that age where people are still talking and preaching about, you know, the need to break out of silos, but no one's created a system that can do that yet.

01:03:53

James Redenbaugh: You know, they're talking about it and then they're making a new silo.

01:03:58

Mariko Pitts: Oh my God. We gotta figure out to bring this all together. Exactly.

01:04:05

Hera: It's so.

01:04:06

Mariko Pitts: It.

01:04:06

Hera: I. I always have this like observation that it's most difficult to teach unity to people who are preaching unity, you know, like to people like, who preach it. Like, like. Yeah, yeah. Or like, for example, in communities. Right. Like we see all these conflicts and all these like. Yeah, but.

01:04:30

Mariko Pitts: Yeah, yeah, exciting.

01:04:34

James Redenbaugh: It. The what I just described for courses can also work. Work for profiles as well. So if I have a profile sharing.

01:04:42

Mariko Pitts: Profiles in different areas. Yeah, yeah, why not?

01:04:46

James Redenbaugh: Why not? Let's say we build a astrology community website and we have different assessments on there and questions that they're being asked that are similar to what we're asking on Hollow Movement. There could be a pathway between those things where you sign up for a membership and you're already in the ecosystem. All your profile information just moves over immediately. Or anything that's relevant, you know, maybe.

01:05:13

Mariko Pitts: Right.

01:05:13

James Redenbaugh: What's pertinent to this community stays there. But the basic info and my sun sign, you know, or whatever can come into Hollow Movement.

01:05:23

Hera: Yeah, kind of like a new digital ID card.

01:05:30

James Redenbaugh: Except you have full control over it.

01:05:32

Mariko Pitts: Yeah, exactly. It's funny.

01:05:40

James Redenbaugh: There'S no single hub either. There's no one like Facebook. It's not just like my Facebook profile showing up on different places. It's like.

01:05:49

Mariko Pitts: Right.

01:05:50

James Redenbaugh: You can start anywhere and end up anywhere.

01:05:55

Hera: My God. Yeah.

01:05:58

Mariko Pitts: Okay. All right, well, it looks like we've got a good vision of where this thing is probably going to end up and all things because I can see a lot of everything that we said. I can see a lot of people operating and using this, but it feels really real because I feel like we just tuned tune. We just tapped into a parallel reality of all the things where this is already in function. It's already happening. That's why we're just, we're just realizing it and seeing it and bringing it into this reality point. Because it's already happening elsewhere.

01:06:28

James Redenbaugh: Because we're Arcturian and that's.

01:06:30

Mariko Pitts: Yeah, that's what we do. I mean this is what it is. So this is what we're gonna do.

01:06:38

James Redenbaugh: I think one month from now, like February 15th we should aim to launch the next version of the, of the directory with login ability, profile editing and integrated assessments. So you fill out an assessment and your assessment is, is there and it, and it lives there, you know, and it's fed right back to you. So I think an MVP of that would be good to hash out over the next month. Then we can get users in there playing with it, testing it out, giving feedback and then we can, you know, build all of this on top of that.

01:07:27

Mariko Pitts: Yeah, and it'd be good to get Munia too soon and thinking what this is going to look like.

01:07:36

Hera: On the project, on the project management layer. I mean I could set up a board but I don't think we're going to do that because you guys already, you, I mean you already have our identity. You're the better when it comes to project management. So it's more about let me know how I could get in there. I mean specifically like how, how I could work with you and the team so that you could tag me for things that are needed from our end and I can make sure that I give that to you as soon as possible so that nothing is blocked by our side.

01:08:13

Mariko Pitts: Of the process.

01:08:14

Hera: So. And yeah, yeah, 3:15 is not long from now. It's not going to be far from now.

01:08:22

Mariko Pitts: So it'll be around the corner. We need to be rocking and rolling. And also if there's. We should probably collect any assessment questions for the profile we need. I think that basic one or I think you're right about what's the quick 5 minute version and then where is the 10 minute version that we should capture everything that we'd want from that initial profile and then all the assessments add more to it. Right. The assessments fill it in more. But what's that major assessment, the long form and then the short form assessment look like?

01:08:53

Hera: Yeah, for the long form. I love the element of surprise that we got and we were doing iOS, you know, when we were prompt and then we get that full report. I think James, James, you've, you've done that right? So it could be that we, maybe we could come up with something like that where people get a profile about to learn more about themselves and their purpose. But without, without copying that. Of course there's so many way, there's so many other ways we could, we could do that without doing the same and that could be basis for the order assessment. So like, like in my mind, like maybe we, we should reverse engineer it so that we could efficiently structure the questions or the shorter assessment so that it feeds the, the more complex assessment better.

01:09:44

Mariko Pitts: I still think I might get that Zone of Genius thing. Once we have a layout and a mock up of what we're building, I can share it with the iOS group and see. See if we could, you know, basically get user rights to it.

01:09:57

Hera: Actually, if, if we give James both the prompt and the, the. The notion with all of the raw. Raw data they're basing that prompt on.

01:10:07

Mariko Pitts: I. Open source. Yeah.

01:10:10

Hera: James could just put that. Put. Yeah. Create a tool based on that.

01:10:15

Mariko Pitts: Yeah, he totally could. I just want to make sure that it's a partnership. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I would like to present it to them because I think Zone of Genius would be a nice assessment that would be added into. Yeah, people can use that, put it on their LinkedIn. They can use it for other things like immediately, you know. Yeah. For their resumes. All kind of stuff you can add yourself.

01:10:39

Hera: Because I think like for. From our end back then, the only thing that we were missing is the tech layer because they were promoting it as kind of like a software. But actually the genius is in the actual. Like that notion, like the raw basis.

01:10:52

Mariko Pitts: We could just bring it in with our own design.

01:10:55

Hera: Yeah, because the prompt is just a prom.

01:10:57

Mariko Pitts: Definitely.

01:10:58

Hera: Because they created that. We need to, we need to partner with them. And that was the, the only missing layer. Like a lot, a lot of us were very excited when we were using that and during the retreat.

01:11:11

Mariko Pitts: Yeah, exactly. It worked for a lot of people. And I think just that alone is great. We could bring it in.

01:11:16

Hera: Yeah. Actually, I'm actually thinking why they didn't even. Yeah, they haven't considered doing that with AI right now. Maybe they have. Maybe they've created a tool already because of all. No, I mean, like it, it made me wonder why they didn't just. They didn't go ahead and just create a tech layer based on all the AI tools before. Because they were already. They said they already have an AI, A tech team. Right.

01:11:43

Mariko Pitts: Yeah. But yeah, it's only thing is they already. They made an operating software. It's kind of like what we're making. We're actually making something so robust that it's just like the saying, let's make a whole MVP and deck around just a numerology assessment. But everything we're building has got five, six phases to it, you know, and that was the bigger end goal that they were focused on. Not one assessment. We were just excited about one small assessment within their entire operating system. Does that make sense? It's like it's just like the same thing as hooking into one little thing that James has created. And that's the be all end all. But you don't know anything else about what the whole operating system does and how it plugs into it. So that's why there's no reason to build that, because they were focused on the entire system, the operating system, building that out. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. So. But the prompt works. It's plugged into GPTs quad. Could probably pull it up. Any of them works. And we would create the output we want. We just. I just would like to talk to them and tell them, hey, we'd like to use it, you know, and we'll give you credit to it and. And bring you in as a bigger partner, I think, just because that's what the holomoon does, elevate their work, you know?

01:13:07

Hera: Yeah.

01:13:09

Mariko Pitts: All right, I gotta get out of here. I'm at. We working. It's closing time for me.

01:13:14

Hera: Oh my God.

01:13:15

Mariko Pitts: You've been on it all day.

01:13:19

Hera: Where are you on.

01:13:20

James Redenbaugh: All right, guys.

01:13:21

Mariko Pitts: I'm in Atlanta and Atlanta.

01:13:25

Hera: She's been sitting there for six hours straight, James.

01:13:28

James Redenbaugh: Oh my God.

01:13:29

Mariko Pitts: Yeah. Maybe more.

01:13:31

Hera: Oh yeah, because you were already there before. Oh my goodness. Oh, yeah, that's true. Because we. When we met, it was like 11, 11 something. And now it's 6 16.

01:13:44

Mariko Pitts: Oh yeah, something like that. 5, 5, 5 16. 5 16. It's all good, though.

01:13:51

Hera: Oh, my goodness.

01:13:52

Mariko Pitts: All right, why don't we. Is there anything you want to show us, James? Or anything like that around the lms or anything like that? Are we good and just wait till later?

01:14:03

James Redenbaugh: No, let's wait till later.

01:14:05

Mariko Pitts: Okay.

01:14:07

James Redenbaugh: Meet next week.

01:14:09

Mariko Pitts: Did we decide on a weekly day in time?

01:14:12

Hera: Yeah, I think we should. Monday, Tuesday.

01:14:14

Mariko Pitts: What would a.

01:14:15

Hera: Feels good for you, James?

01:14:18

James Redenbaugh: Monday is usually pretty good for me.

01:14:20

Mariko Pitts: Me too. Gentlemen, I suggested for March. Are you gonna be.

01:14:38

Hera: Are you gonna be still in the. Are you gonna. Gonna be in the east coast still are next week or are you gonna.

01:14:45

Mariko Pitts: East coast or Central? Okay, but the earliest I have is at 10am Eastern right now. At least for next Monday. Okay.

01:15:00

Hera: That weekly as well, if that's a good time for James.

01:15:05

Mariko Pitts: But it's only for next week. I can't. That'll be a 7am start for me every. Every Monday. And I can't do that. So it would change. But I think for next week I can do a 10am okay. Does that work for you, James?

01:15:19

James Redenbaugh: Y.

01:15:20

Mariko Pitts: Yes. All right, let's do that then. Could you send me invite Here on that one. Okay. Okay. And then I think moving forward. Graduate. Where is Moving forward? A 2pm Eastern on Mondays is actually really, I think, good for me.

01:15:42

Hera: Yeah.

01:15:43

Mariko Pitts: Said it's like 11am Pacific. Wait, is that right? Wait, what is it. 11:00pm. Actually, maybe. Is it two?

01:16:18

Hera: I just sent it.

01:16:35

Mariko Pitts: Okay.

01:16:38

Hera: I was talking with Ali and Claire on Slack a while ago because they had questions about it. You just feel free to check it out after the call.

01:16:51

Mariko Pitts: What is it?

01:16:53

Hera: Yeah, an edit that needs to be done in the website. Because Ali was like, why it. This wasn't here before. I don't know where the. This came from, but when I check the raw. The. The raw document, she was the one who added it to the document. So I'm not. So I'm now there's copy. There's. There's basically copy that she. She wanted. She was curious about in the website because it feels. Yeah, it feels like we needed. So basically there were. There were blanks, there were sections that were incomplete. And she said, I wonder what happened because this wasn't in the website before. And when I check right now, yeah, she added in November 12. So I was like, oh, it's. Let's just decide on what those numbers are so you can just get Ivan to implement it.

01:17:43

Mariko Pitts: I don't even know what page you're talking. What page? What where on the website.

01:17:49

Hera: You know the Google document where all the copy for the sponsorship deck is? So in the sponsorship website, Ali said it seems like we.

01:18:00

Mariko Pitts: We were. We did.

01:18:01

Hera: We noticed that there were blanks in the deck. So like blank million impressions, blank countries, like those kinds of things, which basically is a placeholder in our. In our draft. And then when I checked the document, I saw that she was the one who added it in that document.

01:18:24

Mariko Pitts: So it.

01:18:25

Hera: Maybe she just forgot that she was the one who added it. But yeah, I told her that. Let's just fix it. Because I told. I told them that when Ivan adds all those information, Ivan doesn't check. Check it for completeness. He just assumes that when we say add it to the website that we've reviewed it and we're good with the. With copy.

01:18:48

Mariko Pitts: Okay. All right. We'll. We'll talk to her about it and see what's going on. I have to look at it.

01:18:54

Hera: It's on Slack. She created a group between us.

01:18:57

Mariko Pitts: Oh, it's just copy. It's something I can change. It's not hard. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Sounds good.

01:19:07

Hera: All right.

01:19:07

Mariko Pitts: I just sent you guys a tentative meeting for 2pm Eastern after moving forward, not starting next week, but the week after. I think 2pm Eastern. That might be a doable weekly for me. And I also invited Michael, Sean, because he's going to need to start attending. So these two for the weeklies.

01:19:33

James Redenbaugh: Cool.

01:19:36

Hera: Okay.

01:19:36

James Redenbaugh: Sounds good.

01:19:38

Hera: More email to send. And then I'm. Yeah, No, I can't still go to bed because my daughter is about to wake up and she's about to go to school.

01:19:46

Mariko Pitts: All right. We're just gonna knock out after she goes to school. That's good.

01:19:49

Hera: I'll sleep it probably after an hour. But good night.

01:19:53

Mariko Pitts: Thank you. Very good.

01:19:58

James Redenbaugh: See you guys.

01:19:59

Mariko Pitts: By.