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Ivan: Sunny day here in London in a little while.

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James Redenbaugh: This meeting is being recorded.

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Ivan: I spent a bit of time outside, so I'm happy I did that before it gets dark.

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James Redenbaugh: Nice. Yeah. The days are slowly getting. Getting longer again.

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Ivan: Yep, Slowly.

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James Redenbaugh: Slow and steady. How are you? I'm pretty good. I only have a bit of time today, but I don't think we need to take too much time anyway. Okay, cool. I've got to do the website. Annoying, but that's all right. I'm going to use this new framework I've been working on. Nice. So digging into that, but yeah, let's. Let's dive into the Holomovement project. Questions about this off the bat, about what we're going to build or the client or any of that.

00:01:17

Ivan: Maybe it'd be cool to hear a little bit about holo movement.

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James Redenbaugh: Mm, great. So share the screen. Here. They are. A unifying worldview for consciousness. Collaboration to transform the world. Basically, the Hub movement is a network of different organizations. They should have, like a partners thing somewhere. I'm going to talk to them about that because it's. It's really a network of. Of networks. There's different groups and different people that are all interested in making the world a better place through collaboration and connection and, You know, consciousness studies and practices and intergenerational dialogues and things like that. So they have. They have a podcast, they have meetings, they're starting this course. But the big event is their wave event. And I just realized that I. I should edit this video here to not start with Asheville, because that was last summer's event and the one that's coming up is in Portugal. You should consider coming. I think I'll go.

00:03:17

Ivan: Oh, that's cool. Oh, yeah, I wouldn't mind if I said to Portugal. That sounds nice.

00:03:22

James Redenbaugh: Yeah. It's in your neck of the woods.

00:03:25

Ivan: Cash case is nice as well. I've been there before.

00:03:28

James Redenbaugh: Yeah. And I went last year in Asheville. It's really fun. I gave a talk there on technology and consciousness.

00:03:39

Ivan: Cool.

00:03:41

James Redenbaugh: And was actually a really fun and special event. There's a. There was a big diversity of people from different backgrounds doing different things, young and old. A lot of, like, cultural stuff, music and. And art, a lot of scientific stuff. There were, you know, astronauts and lecturers and meditation teachers and yoga people. And it just brings lots of really interesting folks together. And there's very much a. What I can only describe as a field of synchronicity around the event, where you're walking around and, you know, the person you run into on the street is the, is the person you're meant to have a conversation with now. And everybody just kind of surrendered into that and it's, it's really beautiful.

00:04:42

Ivan: Sounds very synchronous.

00:04:46

James Redenbaugh: And their, their director, Maro, she's passing by right there. She's wonderful. She's been their director for the last couple years and she's done really amazing work to, to bring a lot more perspectives and voices into the mix. Emanuel is the founder. Emanuel and Laura, they ran a big nonprofit called greenheart for a long time in Chicago. And they for years had something called the Global Purpose Movement going on, which was kind of a conference series and a smaller scale thing. And it's kind of evolved into this Holomovement and they really want it to be bigger than them. So they're, they're very fun to work with. They're very open to collaboration and new ideas. They recognize that there's a large contingency of older folks that have been kind of, you know, practicing these kind of things for a long time and are sometimes stuck in their ways, but have like time and resource. And then there's younger folks coming in that want to, you know, do things in their own way and have no energy. And they're kind of bridging the gap between that and making space for, for dialogue and emergence.

00:06:33

Ivan: That's very cool. Very cool. They're so open to that.

00:06:36

James Redenbaugh: Yeah. I'm showing evolutionary leaders here because this is relevant. They're kind of. They're definitely a partner organization here. They have a very outdated website. I think we're probably going to redo this website in the next couple of years.

00:06:57

Ivan: Yeah, it needs.

00:06:58

James Redenbaugh: It needs it bad. I did not do this. Thank God.

00:07:02

Ivan: It's like, welcome back to the 2000s.

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James Redenbaugh: Yeah. But it's a really special group of people. Like some of these guys are really serious, like Bruce Lipton and Ken Wilbur. They've invited me to join them, which is exciting.

00:07:24

Ivan: Oh, that's cool.

00:07:27

James Redenbaugh: And I'm going to recommend that they iron is to make a new website. But it's this kind of gives you a sense of the network behind the Holomovement. A lot of these people will be, you know, at the events and are involved in different ways. And it's so it's always like a combination of positive intentions and inspired, inspired thoughts about how to make the world a better place, how to come together in new ways, how to help people co awaken to the collective nature of consciousness and the interconnectedness of life. And of course, the, the shadow side of that can be an ungroundedness or a disconnection from reality or, you know, a difficulty actually getting anything done. And so in what we make for them, I want to. I want it to kind of resonate at the frequency that they're resonating at. I want it to feel inspired and sacred, but also at the same time grounded and practical and tangible. So, you know, what we're going to be building for them over the next year. And the LMS is a big part of that, has a lot to do with just making. Making real the. And making visible the connections and the transformation that happens in this field with these people. Because when we're at the event, when we're at a wave event and everybody's here and you're walking around, it's. It's so obvious and palpable. It's like, oh, we could do this. You know, like, I. At the last event, I met people that I'm now working with, I'm now partnering with, have now hired me to do different things. And it's like, oh, I can. I can learn these things, I can team up in these ways. We can make stuff happen, and then we all get home. And, you know, I've managed to maintain those relationships because I'm now practiced after dozens of such conferences. But there's always the challenge of, like, how do we maintain those connections? How do we keep that fire burning? And how do we create opportunities for new experiences outside of a conference setting for people to learn, to find new ideas and to connect and to team up? And so we want to kind of create that field in the. In the app and in the learning. So seeing people is going to be really important. I'll share my screen again. Already on the website, we have this, what we're calling a synergist directory. You can fill out a form and you end up on this map.

00:11:08

Ivan: That's cool.

00:11:09

James Redenbaugh: Yeah. And you can see these different profiles and zoom in here and read things. The next version of that will have some more poignant questions. Let me see if I can find the questionnaire I made.

00:11:41

Ivan: Was that John Hopkins, the musician?

00:11:46

James Redenbaugh: I'm not sure.

00:11:48

Ivan: It might have been. That's cool.

00:11:50

James Redenbaugh: Likely. So here, you know, I just made this form with Claude's help, I can upload a photo, you know, put in my email and some basic questions. But then it's going to ask me questions about, like, my. My purpose and what I'm doing and what kind of projects am I stewarding and what ancient or ancestral wisdom guides my work. And let me. In earlier version of this, See which one of these. Actually there was some spam on this, so. Let me find a non span one of these. I need to put in some better spam filtering. Okay. So when the user fills out this form, they're automatically emailed this assessment that I have an NIDA automation generate using a cloud agent and it identifies these different areas and then gives a little assessment. So like your purpose and calling ushering humanity's next iteration, you're drawn to Holloman by a deep desire to usher humanity into its next iteration of evolutionary potential. And so it kind of feeds back to what you answer, but frames it in a new way and adds some context. And there's some more information about the Holomovement built in. And then this is the cool part, will recommend connections to other synergists in the network. So it says, oh, it's something's out of sync here, but imagine that it's saying something helpful about Alyssa Turner here. And I can request a connection with Alyssa and if I click that it will send us both an email with context about, you know, here, you know, this person would like to connect with you, you can respond to the email, but they don't get your email address and so on and so forth. And if it's, there's different kinds of profile, if it's, you know, an alliance, I can just go visit their website or I can email person that's a part of this organization. It'll also recommend podcast episodes that I can go into and just listen right here. And what's cool about this is it doesn't require any membership, there's no login, people don't need to, you know, all they have to have done is fill out a form and then there's nothing to log into. And we can still facilitate these connections. But you can imagine with, with a login we can do the same kind of thing but in an environment that's a little more immediate. So we can give assessment results right there on the website and recommend connections and see what's there. And I'm giving this just to kind of share some context. This first iteration of the LMS won't have many membership features. We, we won't be doing messaging on the site, have forums yet, but we will want to see people who's in there. And we do want to give people an opportunity to interact with the course material. So. Lessons aren't just static content, they're, they're interactive kind of touchable experiences. And then we can build in automations with N8N to intelligently program fields such that if I answer a question on an assessment with a lesson, it will store my answer. But we can also run that answer through a process to analyze my answer and then store another value based on that. So then we can build in communication assessment. So I'm like 20% of the way through a course. We could have a system that sees my answers to those questions and then composes an email based on those answers so it can say hey, I see you. You know, you're really engaged in this course or you answered this on this question about purpose or your profile shows that you're very interested in these topics. Here are some recommendations based on that. And again, for this initial version we don't have to have all of that worked out. We're gonna keep playing with this stuff over the next few months, but we want to keep that in mind that we're very much designing the system to do things like that, not just deliver static content.

00:18:28

Ivan: Context is facilitating connections between members of the network in kind of normal ways.

00:18:35

James Redenbaugh: Exactly.

00:18:36

Ivan: That synchronicity from the in person events alive and amplifying it even.

00:18:42

James Redenbaugh: Yeah, yeah. And so I'm sure you guys are doing similar things with the. I forget the name of the course.

00:18:53

Ivan: That you're the art of accomplishment.

00:18:55

James Redenbaugh: And yeah, I was poking around there and what are you using for email communication on that, by the way?

00:19:05

Ivan: We were just using Gmail. We were trying a few tools like Spark and I think they've tried Superhuman before but none of them seem to meet our needs for a variety of reasons. But in the end what I was using is kind of just like a quite in depth Chat GPT playbook.

00:19:30

James Redenbaugh: Which.

00:19:30

Ivan: I was using alongside like the Atlas browser, the Chat GPT browser so that I could just kind of like answer kind of high volume emails on Gmail on the Gmail kind of UI itself.

00:19:47

James Redenbaugh: Yeah, I, I just downloaded Atlas but I haven't installed it yet.

00:19:53

Ivan: Yeah, I'm really, I'm really enjoying it. I haven't tried many of the other AI browsers but just like, like, I don't know, I just. The lack of copying and pasting and that context is just like readily available wherever you are is pretty powerful. I'm enjoying that.

00:20:19

James Redenbaugh: I think we will Gmail with Nadan. I think we're going to integrate ActiveCampaign because they have some big newsletter lists. They've been using constant Contact, which I hate personally, but it's fine. But that's kind of besides the point. The scope that we want to focus on is connecting the interfaces we're building in webflow with the database in Supabase. And. We want to use Supabase instead of Airtable, even though we use Airtable for lots of things on the website already. And we'll probably sync lesson content with airtable and I love using Airtable with webflow because we use Whale Sync to sync them instantaneously and it's really mass edits and, you know, look at the whole database and jump right into things instead of, you know, one by one looking at a CMS item in. In webflow. But we want things to be more fluid and we want more capacity to. Scale and, and we need to do things like Auth. So I think Supabase is going to be the way to go. And like I outlined in the, in that prototype, I think just going to bring that up for my own. Reference. If I could find that. What did I call that?

00:22:41

Ivan: I have to link to it.

00:22:42

James Redenbaugh: If you. This. There we go. I found it. Okay, I need to update some things in here, but. Yeah, basically. Supabase, I know pretty little about it. I only have a little bit of experience with Firebase, but I've seen a lot of. Documentation around using the, the Auth. The Auth is really a big hurdle in this whole system, enabling people to log in and have their profile. And this is just a mockup over here. There's no significance, you know, and sign out and change their password. And I know Supabase has some of that capability built in, but I haven't yet figured out how to, how to make that work. I think that that would be a good place for us to start, is just getting a simple login working on a, on a webflow site and, you know, just doing free profile creation to start.

00:24:39

Ivan: So it's kind of like a spike on. On like Auth with webflow using Supabase.

00:24:45

James Redenbaugh: Yeah, yeah. And so I. Even though we're going to be building this into the Holomovement website, I want to start on a template site in our webflow account. So something like this that I've been working on that has the masked framework built into it and this way we can, we can figure a lot of things out on this and then duplicate it not only for Holomovement, but also for other clients.

00:25:33

Ivan: Makes sense.

00:25:36

James Redenbaugh: And so I've been working on this template that we can use for, for this project and other projects in the future. Mast is really cool. I've been digging more into it since we talked yesterday and I kind of really love it.

00:25:56

Ivan: What's new since yesterday.

00:25:58

James Redenbaugh: Well, I built this whole thing out, right? I tailored, I tailored it to work with our stuff. Hey, why aren't the. Why isn't my script working anymore? Oh, I think I just didn't publish it on GitHub. But I added a script to intelligently name the colors and the classes and even add font descriptions in here so that when we duplicate these things and change the. The settings for a new project, it automatically updates the style guide so we don't have to do that a million times. And even if I change a variable in the system, it'll. It'll update here. And so yeah, I've added these utility classes for different things I think we'll often use. There's light and dark mode, which is really nice built into it, and then there's all of these. It's very component based, which I was a little resistant to at first because I tend to just use components for like modals and navigation and, and things like that. But I'm realizing that you can do a lot more with components now with the slot functionality and it enables us to hand things off to clients and then they can use the builder to really create their own layouts and drag things around.

00:27:48

Ivan: That's cool.

00:27:48

James Redenbaugh: And do all kinds of funky stuff. So mass kind of takes it to the extreme. I don't think we want to do everything with components like, like they sometimes do, but I do want to use them as much as we can. This is kind of an aside. Basically we can, we can duplicate this, start playing around with the lms. We can use the CMS to create a lesson hierarchy. I'll probably be working on that. So we'll have an index of courses and then within. For now there'll be one course and within courses we'll have modules and then within modules we'll have lessons. We'll probably call lessons something like sessions or experiences or there might be multiple types of those things. But we want the membership system to protect that content, to make sure it's only visible to members. However, we might have some free material such that there'll be a field in these lessons to say access level. So maybe the first couple lessons are free. You can jump in and see what's going on there. Or maybe you have a free membership, you sign up and you can access those things and then the paid membership has access to those other things. And then down the road, when we have multiple courses, of course people will, you know, just have access to the course that they're signed up for. That they've paid for. And we're just going to use a simple stripe checkout to let people either buy a course or do a membership. So we'll have different products connected to different memberships and we might have multiple products connected to the same membership. So. So, you know, a one off price or a subscription. And we might have multiple memberships connected to a single product if we bundle things. So that should be pretty straightforward to figure out. We'll just use stripe checkout for now, not do anything too fancy with that. But we're going to need to set up a connection between those things so that if I stop paying for my membership, I lose access to the course. So something will change in Supabase when that subscription ends in stripe. Yeah, so that's kind of a high level of it. That was a lot of information. Hopefully most of it is straightforward.

00:30:51

Ivan: Yeah, I'd also had like a. Well, I got ChatGPT to summarize the link that you sent me with all the information and so a lot of that sounded familiar.

00:31:02

James Redenbaugh: Yeah. Awesome.

00:31:04

Ivan: And then starting out with like auth into a mass template, that seems like a pretty clear path to start.

00:31:19

James Redenbaugh: Great. There are, in webflow, there's two things we've used in the past to create memberships. One's called Member Stack and one is called Outseta. And they work pretty well, they're pretty plug and play, but, you know, and so in a way we're kind of reinventing the wheel because these services already do that. But I don't want our clients to be tied to those platforms. And we're always wanting to do things that those platforms don't do. And so it's worth figuring this out now so that we can have our own membership solution.

00:32:06

Ivan: Yeah, it sounds like you want to innovate a lot on how to deliver these learning experiences and that this is what will allow you to do that.

00:32:15

James Redenbaugh: Yeah, exactly. And so we want to be thinking about what, you know, what do we want this system to do not only for Holomovement, but also for many future clients. And so I want to document as much as possible. We already talked about that. But I can give you access to the knowledge base that I just started so as we go along, we can create documents in there to keep records of what, you know, what are we building, how does the system work, what have we done? We don't need to go overboard, you know, you know, this line of code does this thing. But just so that a year from now when we're evolving the membership system, we can, you Know, bring somebody else in and they can read that and see, okay, here's why we did that. Here's what tools are using, here's where the things are stored. And so that is on GitHub. I'm sure you are familiar. You just get, you're a developer. I'm pretty new to GitHub. I've avoided it most of my career.

00:33:41

Ivan: I mean, I'm pretty surprised about how far you can get without GitHub.

00:33:47

James Redenbaugh: I know, right?

00:33:47

Ivan: Stuff you've shown me. Yeah, like maybe I've been wasting my time in there.

00:33:54

James Redenbaugh: I'm, you know, I'll show you my, my profile real quick because I'm like, what, why haven't I been in here before? Basically, yeah, basically like five weeks ago.

00:34:14

Ivan: Strong, strong December.

00:34:17

James Redenbaugh: I used it, you know, once last April. And then I'm like, and I'll give you access to our repo and you'll probably be like, what is, what is going on in here? Because it's, I'm sure, extremely disorganized and I'm sure I'm doing things that I shouldn't do, but I'm just having a ball building stuff with Claude and pushing it with, with GitHub pages and. Yeah, and having a blast. And so you'll see the, the knowledge based is organized into these different categories. Development, design, operations, platform. I'm going to build in somehow a connection to different clients so that we'll be able to see. Nothing's here yet. But see what, what projects are we actually working on right from here, right now, that's all in webflow. There's some of the documents I'll make public and they just become blog posts, but they can also be helpful articles in Knowledge Base. And we have a structure here without the documents yet. So I've thought through like, what kinds of things do we want to include in this? And over time we'll add things, but it's mostly empty right now. So as we go along, I think we'll mostly be in development and we might want to add a category for the Supabase or whatever. And maybe that should go in here. Or actually there's a whole domain for the platform and there's the 12 core technologies. And these correspond to these items that I showed you over here with the online learning platform, the membership system, the communication, automation, etc. And so we're focusing on these basically these four first for the Holomovement. And so I think that we do want to organize our records into those categories as much as possible. Unless we're doing things that apply to the whole system, so. Like class naming. I thought we were going to use Lumos, but I'll put it something about MAST in here. But if we're building the membership system, I think that we should add that down here. And I should also make a document in here about how to update the knowledge base and add files to it. And you can look at that and tell me if that makes sense or if it's. Or if there's a better way to do it. Super open to that.

00:37:55

Ivan: Okay, cool. Imagine this is markdown files.

00:37:59

James Redenbaugh: It's markdown files, but you got to put them. You put them in a folder. Oh yeah.

00:38:05

Ivan: And then metadata above.

00:38:08

James Redenbaugh: Yeah, there's metadata in the file. And then you got to go into the manifest and add them in here to have them show up.

00:38:17

Ivan: Okay.

00:38:17

James Redenbaugh: In the hierarchy. But I'm thinking, I don't know, what do you. What do you think would make more sense? Right now everything is in folders and subfolders and I'm thinking maybe all the markdown files should just be in one folder and then we just use the manifest to organize them into the structure.

00:38:39

Ivan: I guess that makes sense. Like, why double up like the organization if you can just have it in one place?

00:38:46

James Redenbaugh: Exactly. And then when we link to things, it can just go to. Go to the thing itself instead of like right now it's like slash, block, slash, operation structure. Yeah. So yeah, that's that. I know I'm sharing a lot at once, but it's. It's in the recording. One other thing, the index for the knowledge base is this lab page, which is going to evolve over time. We can add whatever to this that might be helpful. There's a simple version of the LMS demo linked here that I put just to share with clients that the basics of this. One thing about the demo that we already have that I like is it I can mark things as complete, but it will also register if I've scrolled to the bottom of a page. So these become yellow. If I've just kind of looked at the content and that could be helpful. And right now that information is stored in cookies on the site. So if I come back to this, it'll keep that. But in the, in the final version, we want to store that information in Supabase so that it doesn't get destroyed. And then also so that we can see on a high level who's done what lessons, how far, how are they engaging with the content, things like that.

00:40:29

Ivan: So the admin can see as well. As the user.

00:40:31

James Redenbaugh: Yeah, exactly.

00:40:33

Ivan: Makes sense.

00:40:37

James Redenbaugh: The password for everything on here right now is just Iris 2026. I built this little script registry to keep track of scripts that we're using on different websites.

00:40:56

Ivan: Yep.

00:40:58

James Redenbaugh: And so it's just a little tool to add the URL that we're using and then I just. You put in the script reference that we're using there and then it will automatically add it in here. But right now it's no, it's not actually connected to GitHub in any smart way. It just creates this JSON file and then I copy this and put it into GitHub. So. I think for now, when we're adding scripts to the template pages, just let me know and I'll update this and then copy it in. Otherwise, you know, your. Your JSON file will be different from mine and we might overwrite each other. Okay, cool. Yeah. Eventually we'll connect it with something, but for now it just works like that and it has a dark mode thing. Thanks.

00:42:13

Ivan: Love that, mate.

00:42:18

James Redenbaugh: And yeah, test out my numerology app. If you haven't yet. It works surprisingly well. It's pretty cool. And also play Laser Iris. It's actually pretty fun.

00:42:43

Ivan: Yeah, that's very cool. Is this clone code as well?

00:42:47

James Redenbaugh: Yeah, yeah.

00:42:48

Ivan: So cool.

00:42:50

James Redenbaugh: And it gets pretty crazy in laser levels. In later levels it becomes like a real. A real shit show. I have test mode on here, so we can just jump into. Oh, that didn't work. Jump to a later level. There we go.

00:43:19

Ivan: I'm glad you've got better weaponry in later levels.

00:43:23

James Redenbaugh: Oh yeah. You can reposition things. I forget the controls. Got the flares. Shoots. Shoot missiles. Oh. Anyway, that's that very important. Yes.

00:43:52

Ivan: So I. On my mind is what do I need access to to get started?

00:43:58

James Redenbaugh: Great question. Do you have a web flow.

00:44:06

Ivan: I must do like account.

00:44:09

James Redenbaugh: Yeah.

00:44:12

Ivan: Let me see.

00:44:22

James Redenbaugh: Yeah.

00:44:23

Ivan: Is just my email address. Ian Gonzalez, Rocketmail.com.

00:44:29

James Redenbaugh: Okay. I think that. But it's probably just a free account.

00:44:35

Ivan: Yes.

00:44:39

James Redenbaugh: I think that I'll actually. So I can give freelancers access to our workspace that you need a freelancer or agency account. But I have an extra account that one client uses sometimes. And so I think you can just use that. That account. You might get kicked out once in a while because they're. They're on your time zone in Germany, but that should be fine. And that's how you can access the. The web flow. The other thing you would need is Supabase. I haven't created an account there yet, so I'll make one and get you access to that and. We'll see what else you need. If you need N8N GitHub, Airtable, I'll get you access to those things as well. Cool.

00:45:55

Ivan: Thank you. I imagine to start webflow and Supabase will be enough.

00:46:06

James Redenbaugh: Cool.

00:46:07

Ivan: But yeah, I'll let you know if I run into any blockers.

00:46:11

James Redenbaugh: Mm, great.

00:46:15

Ivan: Cool.

00:46:16

James Redenbaugh: Okey dokey.

00:46:18

Ivan: And so within your webflow there will be that template. The mast template.

00:46:26

James Redenbaugh: Yes.

00:46:27

Ivan: Okay. And I'll duplicate it, I imagine.

00:46:33

James Redenbaugh: Yeah, I can duplicate it and we can start. Start in there.

00:46:39

Ivan: Okay, great.

00:46:43

James Redenbaugh: Okey dokey. Cool. Yeah.

00:46:50

Ivan: Thank you for all that. I'm looking forward to getting started. Getting my hands dirty.

00:46:57

James Redenbaugh: Yeah, wonderful. Me too. Well, well, thank you so much, Yvonne. I will be in touch and talk to you very soon. Have a happy new year. Great.

00:47:11

Ivan: You too. And hope. Hope you have a nice day.

00:47:16

James Redenbaugh: Thank you. Take care. Bye, James. Ciao.