Michael Shaun Conaway opened by framing the overall arc of the Wave to give context for Activation Day. The four-day journey moves intentionally through distinct energetic phases: Friday as arrival and welcoming home, Saturday as transcendence and unity (this year themed around the "Underview Effect" in the Bohmian sense of being deeply in the implicate), Sunday as possibility and inspiration moving from implicate to explicate, and Monday's Activation Day as love in action — collaboration expressing itself through committed projects (08:00).
The deeper aspiration is to break a familiar pattern: events that generate incredible energy only to dissolve weeks later when "the bubble bursts." Francesco Garripoli reflected on his time with Barbara Marx Hubbard's Syncons in the 1970s, where extraordinary connections happened but had no continuity infrastructure. "Fifty years later, we can really do it right" (33:00).
A key reframe emerged: the Holomovement is not an organization but a medium — the coordination layer, the connective tissue, the energetic petri dish in which collaboration grows. Michael Shaun emphasized this clarifies everything: "Everything you're doing can show up in that space as the things you're doing. The invitation is to collaborate, to be organizations or things in that space that have this supercharged environment to connect" (20:30). Because the Holomovement has direction toward greater consciousness and planetary thriving, when the medium moves, everyone takes the journey together.
Zenka Caro added important grounding from Cassandra Vieten's work at IONS on the "ecosystem of change" — when people experience major activations, there's often a snapback, and community, tools, and connections must be injected to sustain the awakening (17:30).
The day organizes around six themes that will be alive throughout the entire Wave (not just Monday):
Boards will go up in the main hall starting Saturday, inviting all attendees — including those not staying through Monday — to post reflections on 4-5 prompted questions per theme. Facilitators will pull resonant contributions into the day's work, ensuring non-attendees travel along for the ride.
The day opens with a brief framing (15 min), then Lynn McTaggart leads an hour of intention setting. Susan Belchamber highlighted this as the magical foundation: "After a few days of the Wave, people start believing in magic. They will be in that frame and want to achieve it at the end" (53:00). Laura K Rose reinforced from the Ibiza experience two years ago that Lynn's intention work produces tangible, witnessed healing.
The breakout methodology draws from future searching (1970s community process) designed for non-hierarchical participation where every voice has equal weight (41:00). The flow:
The day culminates back in the main hall with a gallery-style exhibition where champions stand by their projects, the wider community circulates and contributes, and finally each champion shares from the microphone what their group created (47:00).
James Redenbaugh presented the new digital ecosystem built over the past five months — designed not as a thing that does something for you, but as a thing that supports connection and collaboration (57:00). Key features demonstrated:
[technology="Intelligent Matching Algorithms"]
James framed it beautifully: "We come together and create these big bonfires. We want ways to keep these campfires burning through the year" (55:30). The Wave is the on-ramp — Saturday through Monday people get on the spaceship; Tuesday onward they continue exploring projects, holons, and neighbors in the platform.
[technology="Community Facilitation Tools"]
Francesco offered a gift on the word genius: from the Latin/Greek root meaning spirit guide — not a personal possession but a community collective spirit invoked for what's needed (01:06:00). Michael Shaun reflected this is consistently the most surprising element: "The collective power of letting people be the conduit. The real gift is to see who they are being — the ones that created this. They'll be much more resourced than the ones that got told what to do" (01:07:00).
Susan named the underlying principle: "We are not asking for consensus, we're asking for harmony. Harmony is possible and durable" (53:00).
Because Seed Studio is intentionally open-ended, Zenka and Michael Shaun worked through a tailored approach (01:11:00): start with abstraction-level questions ("What domains require collaboration beyond what any single org can bring?"), then optionally do a partial interview round, narrow to 3 areas the group is drawn to, then deepen. The aim is 4-5 distinct project directions, not 15-20, so groups don't stretch too thin to execute.
Laura K Rose emphasized the Monday experience does not leave non-Monday attendees behind — Holons are being recognized and micro-grants for Holons are launching now, inviting deep involvement regardless of Monday attendance (30:00). The Holomovement vessel is held by member organizations (Light Net, Community Awake, Conscious Healing Initiative, Pachamama Alliance, and others) forming the synergistic walls.
Susan raised the critical question of post-event mentorship: how do we shepherd the new Holons formed on Activation Day? Michael Shaun acknowledged this requires sustained presence — and ideally produces a generation of Holons that learn to do this themselves.
📄 Michael Shaun will distill this briefing into a written facilitation document covering the full day with detail.
Michael Shaun Conaway
Laura K Rose
Zenka Caro
James Redenbaugh
Susan Belchamber
Shamini Jain
Francesco Garripoli
Michael Shaun Conaway opened by framing the overall arc of the Wave to give context for Activation Day. The four-day journey moves intentionally through distinct energetic phases: Friday as arrival and welcoming home, Saturday as transcendence and unity (this year themed around the "Underview Effect" in the Bohmian sense of being deeply in the implicate), Sunday as possibility and inspiration moving from implicate to explicate, and Monday's Activation Day as love in action — collaboration expressing itself through committed projects (08:00).
The deeper aspiration is to break a familiar pattern: events that generate incredible energy only to dissolve weeks later when "the bubble bursts." Francesco Garripoli reflected on his time with Barbara Marx Hubbard's Syncons in the 1970s, where extraordinary connections happened but had no continuity infrastructure. "Fifty years later, we can really do it right" (33:00).
A key reframe emerged: the Holomovement is not an organization but a medium — the coordination layer, the connective tissue, the energetic petri dish in which collaboration grows. Michael Shaun emphasized this clarifies everything: "Everything you're doing can show up in that space as the things you're doing. The invitation is to collaborate, to be organizations or things in that space that have this supercharged environment to connect" (20:30). Because the Holomovement has direction toward greater consciousness and planetary thriving, when the medium moves, everyone takes the journey together.
Zenka Caro added important grounding from Cassandra Vieten's work at IONS on the "ecosystem of change" — when people experience major activations, there's often a snapback, and community, tools, and connections must be injected to sustain the awakening (17:30).
The day organizes around six themes that will be alive throughout the entire Wave (not just Monday):
Boards will go up in the main hall starting Saturday, inviting all attendees — including those not staying through Monday — to post reflections on 4-5 prompted questions per theme. Facilitators will pull resonant contributions into the day's work, ensuring non-attendees travel along for the ride.
The day opens with a brief framing (15 min), then Lynn McTaggart leads an hour of intention setting. Susan Belchamber highlighted this as the magical foundation: "After a few days of the Wave, people start believing in magic. They will be in that frame and want to achieve it at the end" (53:00). Laura K Rose reinforced from the Ibiza experience two years ago that Lynn's intention work produces tangible, witnessed healing.
The breakout methodology draws from future searching (1970s community process) designed for non-hierarchical participation where every voice has equal weight (41:00). The flow:
The day culminates back in the main hall with a gallery-style exhibition where champions stand by their projects, the wider community circulates and contributes, and finally each champion shares from the microphone what their group created (47:00).
James Redenbaugh presented the new digital ecosystem built over the past five months — designed not as a thing that does something for you, but as a thing that supports connection and collaboration (57:00). Key features demonstrated:
[technology="Intelligent Matching Algorithms"]
James framed it beautifully: "We come together and create these big bonfires. We want ways to keep these campfires burning through the year" (55:30). The Wave is the on-ramp — Saturday through Monday people get on the spaceship; Tuesday onward they continue exploring projects, holons, and neighbors in the platform.
[technology="Community Facilitation Tools"]
Francesco offered a gift on the word genius: from the Latin/Greek root meaning spirit guide — not a personal possession but a community collective spirit invoked for what's needed (01:06:00). Michael Shaun reflected this is consistently the most surprising element: "The collective power of letting people be the conduit. The real gift is to see who they are being — the ones that created this. They'll be much more resourced than the ones that got told what to do" (01:07:00).
Susan named the underlying principle: "We are not asking for consensus, we're asking for harmony. Harmony is possible and durable" (53:00).
Because Seed Studio is intentionally open-ended, Zenka and Michael Shaun worked through a tailored approach (01:11:00): start with abstraction-level questions ("What domains require collaboration beyond what any single org can bring?"), then optionally do a partial interview round, narrow to 3 areas the group is drawn to, then deepen. The aim is 4-5 distinct project directions, not 15-20, so groups don't stretch too thin to execute.
Laura K Rose emphasized the Monday experience does not leave non-Monday attendees behind — Holons are being recognized and micro-grants for Holons are launching now, inviting deep involvement regardless of Monday attendance (30:00). The Holomovement vessel is held by member organizations (Light Net, Community Awake, Conscious Healing Initiative, Pachamama Alliance, and others) forming the synergistic walls.
Susan raised the critical question of post-event mentorship: how do we shepherd the new Holons formed on Activation Day? Michael Shaun acknowledged this requires sustained presence — and ideally produces a generation of Holons that learn to do this themselves.
📄 Michael Shaun will distill this briefing into a written facilitation document covering the full day with detail.
Michael Shaun Conaway
Laura K Rose
Zenka Caro
James Redenbaugh
Susan Belchamber
Shamini Jain
Francesco Garripoli
Create written Activation Day schedule and facilitation document for all facilitators
Distill meeting briefing into a written facilitation document covering the full Activation Day with detail on schedule, methodology, and facilitator roles. Referenced at 01:04:00.
Develop interview questions for the Collaborative Commerce theme
Create 4-5 provocative interview questions with A/B/C parts that progressively deepen for the Collaborative Commerce breakout domain. Referenced at 01:22:00.
Schedule follow-up facilitator meeting one week before the Wave to workshop interview questions
Organize a prep meeting with all domain facilitators approximately one week before the Wave event to collaboratively workshop and refine interview questions for each theme. Referenced at 01:23:00.
Consider creating a dedicated Holon for the Activation Day facilitation team to coordinate
Explore setting up a Holon within the Holomovement platform specifically for the Wave Activation Day facilitation team to coordinate their preparation and communication. Referenced at 01:23:30.
Send Wave meeting recording to Shamini Jain and other absentees
Forward the recording of this facilitation planning meeting to Shamini Jain and any other facilitators who were absent so they can get up to speed. Referenced at 35:15.
Coordinate with Laura Rose on communication gaps for invite delivery to Wave participants
Work with Laura to identify and close gaps in invite delivery to ensure all intended Wave Activation Day participants have received communications. Referenced at 01:10:00.
Resend invites to Wave participants who did not receive them including Shamini Jain
Identify participants who did not receive Wave Activation Day invites and resend, specifically including Shamini Jain. Referenced at 16:00.
Refine post-Activation Day follow-up plan with Michael Shaun for sustained Holon support
Develop a concrete plan for how newly formed Holons from Activation Day will receive sustained mentorship and support after the Wave event concludes. Addresses the snapback problem raised by Zenka. Referenced at 55:00.
Draft starter interview questions for the Seed Studio theme and share with Michael Shaun
Create initial set of abstraction-level interview questions for the Seed Studio domain (e.g., 'What domains require collaboration beyond what any single org can bring?') and share with Michael Shaun for review. Referenced at 01:22:30. Zenka Caro is not in the people lists.
Design breakout flow tailored to Seed Studio's open-ended scope
Develop the specific facilitation flow for Seed Studio breakouts: abstraction questions, optional partial interview round, narrowing to 3 focus areas, then deepening to produce 4-5 distinct project directions. Referenced at 01:14:00. Zenka Caro is not in the people lists.
Ensure platform profile, mapping, and Holon features are ready for Wave on-ramp
Confirm that interactive global map, profile pages with assessment visualization, Holon pages, and project pages are production-ready and stable for use as the digital on-ramp during Wave Portugal. Referenced at 58:30.
Connect with Kate regarding Asheville logistics for Wave Activation Day
Susan Belchamber to follow up with Kate on Asheville-related logistics for the Wave event. Referenced at 06:30. Susan Belchamber is not in the people lists.
Support post-Activation Day integration and continuity planning for new Holons
Susan Belchamber to contribute to ongoing planning for how Wave attendees and newly formed Holons are supported after Activation Day, addressing the snapback problem and sustained community building. Referenced at 24:00. Susan Belchamber is not in the people lists.
Co-facilitate Emerging Consciousness breakout with Francesco Garripoli at Wave Activation Day
Shamini Jain to partner with Francesco Garripoli in facilitating the Emerging Consciousness thematic domain during Activation Day breakouts. Referenced at 35:00. Neither Shamini Jain nor Francesco Garripoli are in the people lists.
Send clarifying questions about Activation Day facilitation to Michael Shaun before next prep session
Shamini Jain to review meeting content and send any questions or clarifications needed to Michael Shaun prior to the next facilitator prep session. Referenced at 34:45. Shamini Jain is not in the people lists.
Continue Wuji Mountain soft opening preparation for May 19 and explore continuity programming via new media studio
Francesco Garripoli to proceed with Wuji Mountain soft opening preparations scheduled for May 19 and investigate how the new media studio could support ongoing Holomovement continuity programming. Referenced at 02:30. Francesco Garripoli is not in the people lists.
Strategic enhancement of directory system integrating with membership capabilities to enable member profile management, progressive assessment completion, and intelligent matching. Members can log in and edit their profiles directly with information stored in Supabase for flexible content management. Progressive engagement model starts with basic five-minute setup (name, website, purpose statement, location), then enables detailed assessments later. Each completed assessment adds profile elements and unlocks features including AI-generated visual representations (icons, tarot archetypes, numerology graphics). Integration with Claude AI enables sophisticated queries like 'who should I collaborate with on this project?' or 'who can provide funding?' across network assessment data. Advanced features include weekly emotional mapping interface with six-axis emotional space (excitement, nervousness, grief, etc.) aggregating into community climate visualizations. Reimagined map interface using flat Earth projection with layered filtering showing member locations, funding flows, collaborative connections, project relationships. Multiple view modes from simplified default to complex multi-layered 'Arcturian' views. Integration with Engine for Good grant program where applications link to member profiles, creating incentive structure for profile completion. Team pivoted to prioritize directory system over LMS development. Player card approach focuses on game-like profiles emphasizing what someone is doing (project/mission) and what help they need for AI-powered matching. System summarizes lengthy inputs into concise scannable formats. MVP launch target February 15 with login capability, profile editing, and integrated assessments. Beta testing program follows to identify next priority features. Critical development discussion revealed MapBox visualization provides initial visual interest but limited practical value beyond local connections - intelligent matching algorithms represent the true 'killer app' rather than map visualization. Profile data strategy shifting from personality assessments to actionable information: developmental stage, experience level, current project involvement, specific skills, and active needs. Visual consistency issues identified with user-uploaded images requiring standardization. Question emerged whether Holons function as independent entities or collections of individual members, requiring data architecture decisions. Simplified terminology 'members and groups' proposed over 'Holons' for newcomer clarity. Basic intake form planned capturing development level, experience, life stage, purpose, and current needs as primary assessment for matching foundation. Player card UI concept introduced featuring icons to symbolize key information, AI-generated summaries to condense lengthy responses, and achievement badges displaying completed courses, assessments, and accomplishments. Design iteration process planned where team scans test cards to validate information hierarchy. Sandbox database creation for core team to fill out profiles and review each other's player cards as real-world test. Prototype development progressing with profile creation, editing, viewing, and password resets functional in Supabase. Munia developing first draft UI designs. Team agreed to reduce text density, create more visual/scannable interfaces. Multiple views prototyped: alliance view, profile editing, directory search (list and map-based), member profiles, holon profiles. Core intake fields defined: name, date of birth, email, phone/SMS/WhatsApp, location, purpose/mission, gifts and requests, alliance affiliations, short bio (150 words max), photo. Matching deferred from numerical compatibility scores to simpler connection signals: complementary skills, matching needs/offers, alliance overlap, geographic proximity, shared purpose domains. AI interpretation via Claude for free-text fields, direct computation for explicit matches. App functionality to be hosted on separate subdomain (app.holomovement.net) with member-specific navigation, syncing public profile data to main site member globe. End of February target for core team interactive prototype. 3D globe navigation now live with lightweight custom rendering approach using continent outlines without full Mapbox tile loading for smooth performance (05:52). Globe features toggle for flat view, hover-activated profile cards, connection lines between members and holons. People appear as yellow dots, holons as teal hexagons algorithmically placed at center of members (01:22). Profile creation flow implemented as linear step-by-step process requiring profile completion before directory access (09:38). Photos strongly encouraged with friendly nudges if skipped, social profiles optional. AI-generated banner images based on user bios producing resonant results (15:47). Light/dark mode toggle available inheriting system settings by default (16:39). Dark backgrounds using deep teal rather than pure black, light mode avoiding stark white to maintain Holomovement brand feel (14:35). Vertical player cards chosen for directory view over horizontal layouts for gamified engaging presentation (37:52). Team seeding platform this week with core team members completing profiles Monday/Tuesday, creating holons Wednesday, reviewing experience Thursday core call (43:53). Polish focus prioritized over new features with delivery target Monday February 17 (41:20). New bento-style profile layout introduced with rounded corners, centered tagline, framed profile image, and subtle background color differentiation between sections (14:21). Rich text field with optional image upload added to represent projects or organizations more expressively beyond plain text (32:10). Testimonials system (potentially rebranded as 'Send Some Love' or 'Share the Love') enables mutual endorsements with reciprocal vouching mechanics (34:54). Field feature replacing 'wall' concept allows users to post updates and collaborative content with pinning capability (39:43). Long-term vision includes drag-and-drop section ordering for personalized profile storytelling. Assessment display framework showing sliders across domains added as visible badges on profiles. Seeking/Offering keywords auto-distilled from freeform text using AI summarization to aid readability and matching. On-demand match experience triggered by 'Match Me' button generates side-by-side comparison modal with numerical score (1-100, shown on hover), loading animation, and meaningful dimensions including complementary skills, needs/offers alignment, shared alliances, overlapping domains (26:00, 19:02). Match score and comparison view designed as sticky gamified feature incentivizing profile completion (24:35). Domain categories refined: 'Economics and New Systems' → 'Economics and Collaborative Commerce', 'Governance and Social Change' split into 'Collaborative Governance' and separate social change, 'Spiritual Activism and Inner Development' → 'Spirituality and Consciousness', additions include Ethics and Philosophy, Science, Leadership and Facilitation as 12th domain, potential Psychology embedded in community/relationships (43:00-48:22). Onboarding copy and tooltip language prioritized for clarity on unfamiliar terms with short hover descriptions (one sentence max). Implementation timeline: 7-10 day dev window for new design style, Field feature, preliminary matching functionality followed by internal testing with core four, then broader core team rollout (41:07, 40:08). First impressions prioritized with cautious rollout protocol to ensure solid initial experience. Messaging icon refined from email-style button to message icon to better reflect in-platform nature (13:29). Notifications aggregate into single indicator on Holon icon with changing number rather than multiple dots. Three profile image preview styles (circle, square, doorway/vertical) included in signup flow to ensure photos work across all use cases (07:44). In-app messaging system now live using custom-built architecture with no per-message cost, styled similar to iMessage with unread message counts, conversation threading, and future group chat capability (09:37). Email notifications handled via Resend - free up to 3,000 emails/month, then $20/month for up to 50,000 (23:56). Holon management flow improved with clear delegation model between members and admins using invitation system rather than automatic adds (04:08). Location automation uses lightweight AI call to convert entered location into coordinates for near real-time map updates (26:27). Saving bug affecting profile updates, feedback, and location syncing identified and resolved during meeting (26:27). Community consent flow being added as pop-up on first messaging use with scrollable community agreements and required checkboxes covering non-partisanship, anti-spam, entity usage rules, and conduct standards (18:00). GDPR compliance considerations noted with Webflow plugin available for data erasure rights and cookie consent (17:46). Pay What You Want contribution system now under active development with slider UI allowing users to select suggested range ($15-$20/month) with secondary scholarship tier option for lower amounts. Two-screen approach framed as gift rather than discount with wave-based slider visual showing increasing amplitude. System includes familiar Stripe checkout supporting Link, Amazon Pay, and other methods. PayPal integration planned for better international accessibility (18:35, 19:30). Working wave-amplitude slider prototype built with predefined moments shifting wavelength visually, translatable directly into payment UX (19:47). Prototype ready for core team testing within next couple days with front-end UI included (53:10). Thursday core team meeting target for showcase (54:22). Modal menu interface introduced featuring compact notification/settings control with light mode toggle - described as small detail that meaningfully elevates experience (38:05). Three developers now working on Webflow implementation: Sean (Ohio, senior), Siam (Pakistan, junior), with Ivan handling less bandwidth due to outside client work (34:00). Profile creation, editing, and regeneration flows confirmed working (04:14). Holon page active development with wheel of faces arc rendering, domain icons, and My Holons view improvements (04:14). Empty state for My Holons will show helpful message plus grid of all existing Holons to orient new users (21:50). Profile edit mode link navigation disabled to prevent losing unsaved changes (27:08). Profile image edit icon made more prominent (30:58). Banner image regeneration icon will get rollover tooltip explaining 'replace your banner' functionality (32:25). Skills rating feature demoed allowing users to rate themselves with visual bar indicators (44:04). Location map tooltip added showing actual location name on hover (23:11). Profile creation link added directly to member modal enabling logged-in users to re-run full onboarding flow (42:31). Test accounts and Holons being cleaned up before team-wide invite (06:47). Core team onboarding structured as daily feature drip: Day 1 profile creation, Day 2 assessment prototype, following days Holons/map/matching features one at a time (16:11). Homepage updates in progress including background color correction, animation circle restoration, scroll sequence improvements, auto-scroll implementation, mobile type scaling, icon-only logo, and updated CTA button (44:35). Dynamic map will become hero element of homepage with card preview leading to login/profile creation for non-members (52:57). Tag-based matchmaking architecture outlined: profiles generate seeking/offering/domain/focus tags, periodic comparison produces alignment scores, directory displays highest-alignment profiles larger and left-aligned (01:01:36). Sean actively working on matching grid view implementation (01:00:56). Wave event preparation targeting participants leaving activation day already inside at least one Holon using app as live tool (58:30). James confirmed ready to lead app presentations at wave event. One-to-two minute intro video of ecosystem planned for wave event (01:00:07). Platform designed as coordination layer - not an organization but a medium, connective tissue, energetic petri dish for collaboration to grow (20:30). Wave serves as on-ramp for Saturday-Monday - people get on the spaceship, then continue exploring projects, holons, and neighbors in platform Tuesday onward. 'We come together and create these big bonfires. We want ways to keep these campfires burning through the year' (55:30).
Assessment system with AI-powered engagement features feeding automation workflows. Data from assessments, clicking patterns, lesson completion, and call attendance triggers personalized communication including immediate tailored emails, weekly progress updates, connection recommendations based on profile matching, and proactive check-in offers when engagement drops. Guatemala-specific assessment page created requiring customized copy. Current synergist directory demonstrates existing assessment capabilities: members complete form triggering automated n8n and Claude AI analysis of responses about purpose, projects, and ancestral wisdom influences. System generates personalized feedback and recommends connections to other synergists based on compatibility, facilitating introductions via email without exposing addresses. Also suggests relevant podcast episodes. No-login approach removes participation barriers while enabling intelligent matching and communication. Strategic shift to progressive engagement model: members start with basic five-minute profile setup (name, website, purpose statement, location), then complete more detailed assessments later. Each completed assessment adds elements to profile and unlocks new features. Gamification includes AI-generated icons, tarot card archetypes, or numerology graphics appearing on profiles as users complete different assessments. Incremental assessment launch strategy releasing new assessments every week or ten days leading to Wave event, using Ripple gatherings and Miracle Club to promote participation. Partnership opportunities with experts for themed assessments (Don Beck for Spiral Dynamics, Vedic astrologer for astrology, iOS Zone of Genius team for their assessment). Critical reassessment of assessment strategy prioritizing basic intake form capturing most important factors: development level, experience, life stage, purpose, and current needs as primary assessment for matching foundation. Systems like Gene Keys and numerology recognized as requiring belief in astrology/numerology to feel relevant, limiting universal applicability. Focus shifting to actionable, practical data enabling computational matching based on clear criteria rather than archetypal personality typing. When matching collaborators, users need to understand skills, experience, current needs, and project involvement rather than personality scores. AI-driven matching requires developmental stage, experience level, project involvement, and specific needs to avoid misaligned matches like pairing serial entrepreneurs with college freshmen. Meeting confirmed approach of using simple 1-to-10 scale assessments for numerical scoring and spider graphs but deferring complex compatibility scores for MVP. AI interpretation via Claude for free-text fields and nuanced alignment, direct computation for explicit matches like shared affiliations or complementary skill requests. Michael coordinating with Emmanuel on potential assessment questions to gauge user alignment. Team now planning 5-6 domain assessment (5 makes pentagram shape, 6 makes star shape) using simple multiple choice format outputting 1-10 scores per metric with spider graph visualization (37:24). Demonstrated working client assessment as reference - multi-screen flow with logic-based classification, no agentic analysis required. Key design principles: spectrum-based framing rather than qualitative scoring ('does this sound like you or not?' vs 'how good are you at this?'), questions should feel neutral and interesting to avoid test-taking bias (MMPI/Myers-Briggs problem of answering how you want to appear), completable in 10 minutes or less, more candidate questions per domain than needed for culling weak ones (40:52, 48:29). Mariko advocated for including at least one fun gift-like assessment (e.g. numerology mandala tool) people would do for the experience that enriches profile organically without feeling like data extraction (41:56). James floated longer-term vision of garden of assessments users can choose from with power to decide which assessments inform matching - astrological/numerological inputs become opt-in rather than default. New numerology mandala tool demonstrated building visual in real time as user types, team expressed integration interest (43:44). Michael Shaun starting shared document immediately with candidate domain names and draft questions for team review, holding internal review with Hera before broader socialization (40:52, 52:43). Working prototype built with five-domain assessment featuring slider-based positioning system across spectrums (22:37). Five domains: Holonic Worldview (separative/analytic to holistic/integrative), Purpose Orientation (exploring/emergent to directed/activated), Pro-Social Stance (deep one-on-one to community-wide/systemic), Collaborative Capacity (independent to collective), Time Horizon (near-term to long-arc/generational). Results render as nine-pointed spider graph and bar chart. Slider format keeps assessment accessible without overwhelming users (25:36). Community-level visualization capability floated - overlaying 100 profiles to reveal collective orientation of holons or comparing holons against each other (29:17). Next development step: adding archetype outputs (e.g., 'super connector') with brief descriptive text for each result profile. Assessment data feeds optionally into matching algorithm with users able to decide matching criteria when requesting analysis, though some default criteria apply automatically (36:00). Prototype ready for Holomovement team Thursday meeting demo (40:46). 03-31 meeting revealed spider graph assessment essentially unreadable without tutorial - 19 items across overlapping axes makes results incomprehensible (10:54). Team verdict: spider graph is good eye candy but doesn't deliver snapshot value. Simplified one-question assessment with triangulation output confirmed as right path forward, not using spider graph format (14:58). Working prototype committed for following day. Michael Shaun flagged standing to-do: writing one-page descriptive blurbs for each assessment area so AI can return robust grounded responses to user queries - Google Doc format for now (57:04). Mariko testing showed assessment accurate and trustworthy, validating credibility needed for matching layer to work for new users. Assessment confirms what users intuitively know about existing relationships, building trust for recommendations with unknown people (46:52). Beyond individual matching, assessments help working groups understand collective makeup - team strengths, shadows, support needs, leadership roles. Positions tools as ongoing collaboration infrastructure rather than just onboarding features (51:14). New triangular assessment visualization mentioned in meeting at 57:00 as co-designed by James. Assessment now functional with improved output format and ready for core team onboarding (meeting 05-04).
Micro-grants program rewarding Holons demonstrating transformative action. Grant range established at $1,500 to $5,000 per award with flexibility based on first Wave project budget and potential matching grants from partners like Kinship Earth. Strategic reframing positions these as angel grants to startups rather than just community project funding, opening possibilities for convertible notes or return mechanisms where successful projects could return 2x, 3x, or 5x the initial grant. Key principle is that generosity should feed the Engine for Good, creating sustainable funding cycle for ecosystem. Some grants awarded at Wave event in Portugal with program continuing beyond Wave with quarterly grant cycles. Directory system supports grant application process with applications linked to member profiles. Creates incentive structure: members join directory, complete assessments and profile information, apply for grants, potentially receive funding at Wave event. Beta testing for directory bootstrapped by grant program, driving engagement while collecting usage data. Program partially funded by membership revenues creating virtuous cycle where membership fees support transformative projects across network, visible to all members through platform. Initial strategy selects three exemplary model projects to set standards and ensure system tells good story while technical infrastructure develops. Integration with directory system and profile completion tracking required for application management. Micro-grants now being launched before Wave event, inviting deep involvement from all community members regardless of Monday Activation Day attendance (30:00). Grants serve as recognition mechanism for existing Holons demonstrating transformative action, not just new initiatives formed at the event.
Design and facilitation of Monday Activation Day at Wave Portugal event as culminating experience transforming inspiration into committed collaborative action. Day organized around six thematic domains (Collaborative Commerce, Sacred Ecology, Catalytic Philanthropy, Impact Infrastructure, Emerging Consciousness, Seed Studio) with boards live throughout entire Wave for all attendees to contribute reflections. Morning opens with brief framing (15 min) followed by Lynn McTaggart leading hour-long intention setting to establish magical foundation (53:00). Breakout methodology draws from Future Search process (1970s community design for non-hierarchical participation) with structured flow: facilitators craft 4-5 provocative interview questions with A/B/C progressive deepening parts, pairs conduct intentional listening interviews (~30 min) where listener only records and asks clarifying questions, partner accountability where each person surfaces the other's ideas in group rounds ensuring quiet voices land, group rounds of six unpacking questions across 3-4 rounds (~25 min each) with mixing between rounds, clustering ideas and heat mapping with dot voting (3 dots each) to surface where energy lives, top themes get future vision statements with champion and concrete first-step commitments including calendar dates. Day culminates in gallery-style exhibition where champions stand by projects, community circulates and contributes, then each champion shares from microphone (47:00). Strategic goal to break familiar pattern where extraordinary event energy dissolves weeks later when bubble bursts - continuity infrastructure through Holomovement platform enables sustained collaboration (33:00). Holomovement positioned not as organization but as coordination layer, medium, connective tissue enabling collaboration (20:30). Francesco reflected on Barbara Marx Hubbard's Syncons in 1970s generating incredible connections without continuity infrastructure - 'fifty years later we can really do it right' (33:00). Zenka emphasized injection of community, tools, connections critical to sustain awakening based on Cassandra Vieten's IONS work on ecosystem of change (17:30). Six themes will be alive throughout Wave, not just Monday, with boards inviting Saturday-Sunday attendees to contribute so non-Monday participants travel along for the ride. Seed Studio domain requires tailored approach: start with abstraction-level questions about what domains require collaboration beyond single organizations, optional partial interview round, narrow to 3 areas group is drawn to, then deepen. Aim is 4-5 distinct project directions not 15-20 so groups don't stretch too thin (01:11:00-01:14:00). Facilitation philosophy centers on invoking genius as collective spirit guide rather than personal possession (01:06:00). 'We are not asking for consensus, we're asking for harmony. Harmony is possible and durable' (53:00). Real gift is seeing who participants are being - ones that created outcomes will be much more resourced than those told what to do (01:07:00). Post-event mentorship question raised: how to shepherd new Holons formed on Activation Day requiring sustained presence, ideally producing generation of Holons that learn to do this themselves. Laura emphasized Monday experience does not leave non-attendees behind - Holons being recognized now through micro-grants inviting deep involvement regardless of attendance (30:00). Michael Shaun will create written facilitation document covering full day with detail (01:04:00) and schedule follow-up facilitator meeting one week before Wave to workshop interview questions together (01:23:00). Day schedule: Opening business in main hall (smaller intimate setup, possible center stage), 9:30 framing (15 min), Intention setting with Lynn McTaggart (~1 hour), 20 min theme facilitators introduce domains in main hall, Transition to breakouts (3-min walk max), 11:20-14:30 Breakout Session 1 (interviews + first unpacking possibly continued through lunch), 1.5 hour lunch, Session 2 (2.5 hours multiple unpacking rounds), 16:30 Break, Final session (1.5 hours exhibition + champion sharing). Four-day Wave arc: Friday arrival and welcoming home, Saturday transcendence and unity (Underview Effect theme in Bohmian implicate sense), Sunday possibility and inspiration moving from implicate to explicate, Monday love in action - collaboration expressing through committed projects (08:00). Team considering creating dedicated Holon for facilitation team to coordinate (01:23:30).
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Michael Shaun Conaway: Hi.
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Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: Hi. Michael.
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Francesco Garri Garripoli, CommunityAwake: We did it.
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Michael Shaun Conaway: See,.
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Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: Miracles never cease, right?
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Francesco Garri Garripoli, CommunityAwake: I know. I always laugh when these technology things actually work.
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Michael Shaun Conaway: Yeah, right.
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Francesco Garri Garripoli, CommunityAwake: I never want to get too used to them, you know, I want to see them as a magic trick every time.
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Michael Shaun Conaway: Well, that could go for all of life, Francesco. Consciousness itself, the showing up of a phenomena, should be regarded in that state as, well, not just technology. Right.
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Francesco Garri Garripoli, CommunityAwake: Now, you know who I think?
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Michael Shaun Conaway: My hand. Oh, my gosh.
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Francesco Garri Garripoli, CommunityAwake: Every breath I take, I guarantee you, I take is a miracle.
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Michael Shaun Conaway: You and me, brother. Otherwise, it's. Otherwise, the alternative is really sad.
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Francesco Garri Garripoli, CommunityAwake: Yeah, well, we see what it looks like in the world, and that's why the hola movement exists. This is what we are doing.
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Michael Shaun Conaway: Yeah. Heidegger had a great term for it called conditioned obliviousness. Conditioned oblivious. It's not oblivious. Not by choice, but because we are conditioned to become oblivious.
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Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: So, absolutely, I think the holo movement is conditioning us to awaken to our greatest and most beautiful selves. And Francesco, you're certainly a beautiful part of that.
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Shamini Jain: Yay.
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Francesco Garri Garripoli, CommunityAwake: You too.
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Susan Belchamber: All of us.
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Francesco Garri Garripoli, CommunityAwake: And you know, if we think of conditioning as such a critical part of human life and the mess we're in, well, then we use it, we hijack it for our own. And so hola movement is a conditioning tool. So we just play the conditioning thing. If that's how humans work, then we condition them with love and genius and power and community. And it can change just as fast as the other conditioning. So it's exciting.
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Michael Shaun Conaway: And all of our great spiritual teachers have done the same thing. They've laid out practices, meditations. You know, the Tonka on your wall. Back there is a pattern that you. Should adopt, you know, so I think. We're just part of a great lineage.
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Francesco Garri Garripoli, CommunityAwake: It is. We're in an exciting time to be here. So that's the wonderful thing, that we're alive in this moment. Consciousness moment.
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Michael Shaun Conaway: Wow. Yeah.
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Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: And you're at Wuji Mountain, aren't you? Right now?
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Francesco Garri Garripoli, CommunityAwake: I am here working away, getting ready for our soft opening coming up pretty soon. So that's exciting.
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Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: Oh, fantastic. When is that?
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Francesco Garri Garripoli, CommunityAwake: 19 May. So wanted to get it done before we went off to Europe.
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Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: Oh, beautiful, beautiful. It looks every time you send photos, it's more magnificent than the time before. It's really coming together.
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Francesco Garri Garripoli, CommunityAwake: Wait until you see the studio. The media studio now is like a real thing. It's gorgeous.
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Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: It's not in the lower level of the big building.
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Francesco Garri Garripoli, CommunityAwake: Yes. So we've got a full blown multi camera TV studio in operation. It's so Crazy to think. Talk about dreaming awake.
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Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: You know, we should do one of our next events there. That would be amazing. Right?
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Francesco Garri Garripoli, CommunityAwake: Love it.
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Susan Belchamber: And it's.
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Francesco Garri Garripoli, CommunityAwake: It's tied to high bandwidth fiber optics to the world. So we are. They're happening.
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Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: It would be so great if you could be in two places at once. We could have you be in Portugal with us. But also do a watch party with all the folks in Asheville.
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Francesco Garri Garripoli, CommunityAwake: We're trying to get the cat's herded, so we're doing the best we can.
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Michael Shaun Conaway: Yeah.
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Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: Hey, James, great to see you. Susan, long time. Good to see you in ages.
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Michael Shaun Conaway: James. Are you changing your name? Because we should call you Breathe, center and Stretch now. And that's three names. That's. I have two and people can't get the two out of their mouth. Three?
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Breathe, Center, and Stretch: Is that how I'm showing up? That's what I name my. My WI Fi on my phone. So when people see the network reminder.
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Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: I think we could all use a little breathing, centering and stretching.
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Breathe, Center, and Stretch: Yeah, I need the reminder all the time.
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Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: I don't think I've seen you since you painted that wall green. You were in the process the last time.
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Breathe, Center, and Stretch: Oh, wow.
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Michael Shaun Conaway: Yeah.
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Breathe, Center, and Stretch: That was a long time ago. Thank you. Great to see you. Can't wait to see you in Portugal.
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Michael Shaun Conaway: I know.
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Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: So exciting.
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Michael Shaun Conaway: So exciting.
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Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: Yeah.
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Alex Melnyk: So good.
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Michael Shaun Conaway: We are waiting for a few more people.
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Alex Melnyk: Yeah. Who else are we expecting today?
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Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: I don't know. I didn't send out everybody and the invite so I didn't see who.
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Alex Melnyk: Well, I can look. Look. I'll try and look as well because.
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Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: Lynn said she was gonna be able to make it. So. I mean I can text her if. You know, I was thinking though, she's pretty early there, right? It would be six in the morning.
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Alex Melnyk: Yeah.
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Michael Shaun Conaway: But they agreed to this time, so.
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Alex Melnyk: That's why we picked it.
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Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: Yeah.
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Michael Shaun Conaway: They will be recording. If they don't show, I'll text.
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Alex Melnyk: Do you want to text Chamonix? Samantha.
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Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: Okay.
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Alex Melnyk: And then we could just get started because we will have a recording. Yeah. Okay.
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Michael Shaun Conaway: So you want to send Zenka a message as well.
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Alex Melnyk: And friend Francesca. We haven't met yet. I'm Alex. Nice to meet you. I'm going to be producing the wave with. With Mariko this year. And I'm also Michael, Sean's partner in.
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Michael Shaun Conaway: Life and crime, life and compassion.
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Francesco Garri Garripoli, CommunityAwake: That's good. It would be a crime otherwise. So that's good.
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Zenka Caro: Exactly.
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Francesco Garri Garripoli, CommunityAwake: Well, a pleasure to meet you. I so look forward to it. And Marco is an amazing creature. So I can't Wait to hug.
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Alex Melnyk: Absolutely. Absolutely. It's been so fun working with this whole group. Yeah, absolutely.
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Breathe, Center, and Stretch: Okay.
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Alex Melnyk: Okay.
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Michael Shaun Conaway: Message. We're not grabbing.
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Shamini Jain: Sorry.
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Alex Melnyk: I got sidetracked with Samantha, but I'm getting there now. Okay. Doing that right now.
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Michael Shaun Conaway: We'll start regardless. Yeah, just a minute or so here.
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Susan Belchamber: So you were talking about Asheville and Right when I came in. The decision has been made for Sunday, right?
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Francesco Garri Garripoli, CommunityAwake: Yes, Now. Now it's as I used the loving term of herding cats to see if I can do my best to get them to focus and get things together.
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Susan Belchamber: Yeah, yeah. I'll talk to Kate too. Yeah, Yeah.
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Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: I usually refer to it as hurting mongoose. What's that?
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Michael Shaun Conaway: Why do you do that?
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Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: I don't know. I just. I. I like. It just makes me smile to think of a herd of mongoose being herded anywhere. It just seems like a really good idea. Might.
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Michael Shaun Conaway: My niece sent a. A gif yesterday that was catfish in a tank, but they were literally like cats that were in the shape of fish. So maybe we should be herding catfish. Yeah. Mythical catfish. Meow.
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Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: Okay, I'm gonna send this to both her WhatsApp and to Shabaney is just regular imessaging because I know she doesn't look at WhatsApp that as often as I think I do. Let's see.
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Michael Shaun Conaway: Yeah,.
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Susan Belchamber: I guess nobody sent out a reminder.
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Michael Shaun Conaway: We did. I think so. Like, we sent multiple emails and the link as well. So. So let's. Let's get started. This is.
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Shamini Jain: Yeah, let's.
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Susan Belchamber: Because we are here, you're here, and.
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Michael Shaun Conaway: The recording will be a great guide to the topics we're going to cover today and understanding of what Activation Day is all about. So, first of all, I just want. To thank each of you that have agreed to be facilitators for Acts Activation Day. The. The outcome that we're hoping to achieve is dependent upon a lot of things. It's dependent upon the whole event leading up to this point. It's dependent upon people feeling a sense of agency and possibility, and it's dependent upon the guides and facilitators that will be helping to shape the conversation in the rooms. So thank you for that. I think it's. For me, it's always like a privilege. As well to facilitate and lead. I feel like I often when I'm teaching, I sneakily feel like I'm getting more than they are. Especially when I'm teaching some of the spiritual stuff. I feel like this amazing energy is pouring through me. And how am I the one that's so lucky to be sitting here having this stuff come through me and feel blessed by that. So I hope you guys feel the same. That being of service in this way is just a great gift. And then strangely, that gift enriches us in a very profoundly deep way. So this year, by the way, things. Happen in a Holden movement just they organically came about that I ended up designing and will be somewhat as loosely as possible. You can use the term leading the activation day efforts. So I'm really honored to do that and honored to work with all of you in that process.
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Francesco Garri Garripoli, CommunityAwake: The deck is beautiful, by the way. It's really. It really feels good. I think it conveys the sense so deeply. So thank you for all the work.
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Michael Shaun Conaway: You've done great and well. We will take a quick look at. That for people who want to get. On the recording later. I want to share just a little bit about the way I see the. Overall arc of the Holu movement. And I think that'll that helps to. Put into context the activity Activation Day even more powerfully than just talking about the activation day. Arrival is always in these kinds of community events. I always think of arrival as the welcome home day. The day when people remember whether they've been in the Holy Moon wave or not, but they have the memory of coming together with human beings into a loving community purposeful for the benefit of all community. So the evening of day one is that welcoming home. Day two is our classical transformation day or transcendence day, where ultimately the aim, if there is, if the non conceptual aim, I'll say is to have people have a deeply experiential feeling for unity. Feeling for not only just unity amongst human beings and humankind and the human condition, but also unity with all sentient beings, all life, everywhere in the universe itself. If at all possible. The wider and the deeper the better. This year's theme is the underview effect. This is in the Bohmian sense, this is being in the implicate, being deeply in the depths of it. And then also I think there's also a bit of a reflection that above us on the surface of the wave, this frothy space which is the explicate the world of things. And I think we have a wonderful lineup for Saturday, ending with Ocean Bloom, which is going to be showing us literally under the sea with whales and music and an immersive experience. And I feel that we're going to land that one really, really well. There's going to be a lot of people who deeply feel this resonance with universal you know, unity. Then Sunday is the day where, you. Know, I think that the term that Emanuel says is we go from implicate to the explicate. But to me, it's. It's not just about the world of. Back into the world of things, bringing our experience of unity, but it's about. It's about possibility. You know, what. What are the things that people are doing that our community is doing, that that opens up the sense of. Of wonder and inspiration for us so that we're. We're left in the sense of, like, I felt that. And look, what's possible for us and better yet, for us together. Laura's going to share some of the recipients of Purpose Earth on that day. We're going to have a number of panels with people like the panel Francesca is going to be on around consciousness. There's going to be a lot. Or is consciousness Saturday? No, it's Saturday. There'll be a lot of panels kind of sharing what people are up to in the world. Catalytic philanthropy. The collaboration panel that I'm leading around business and between collaboration between different organizations and the idea here is that people feel this to get right up to the edge of potential and possibility. What are we here for? If that's who we are, what are we here for? What is the game we want to play or can play? What is our place in this world? And then I think activation day for those who stay is about love in action. But even more than love in action, like taking an action out of love, it's this force of love of us coming together. So it's, you might say, collaboration expressing itself. Is love in action or community expressing itself as love and action? So how do we come together with all this sense of the universal experience, the oneness, with all of this potential excitement, inspiration to decide how we're going to collaborate, how we're going to come together. And that means individual and individual organization and organization. How are we going to come together? And what are the things that we. See on this one day that we could take action on that would further strengthen our collaboration, start further strengthen our unity between organizations, and then have some outcomes or projects that we would like to commit to out of that day so that when the holy movement ends at the end of Monday night, we have excitement and a plan, things in our calendar to do over the coming weeks right after the wave. This. This to me is the ultimate, the. Ultimate thing for us to achieve. And we've all done it. We've all led amazing events and been to amazing events where there's this incredible energy and vibe. Hey, Zenka. This incredible energy and vibe happens. And then you contact people a couple of weeks later and they're like, oh. Yeah, I remember that. Like that the bubble bursts or it dissolves out of existence and. And the whole movement is, you know, by Bohm, is literally the movement of all, all one thing in any given instant of the universe. The whole movement is unceasing and unresting. Otherwise our consciousness would simply collapse and we'd no longer exist. So by the nature of the universe, it moves moment by moment. And our aim at the holy movement is really to have to take that into the expressed as lived world, that we don't just come for an event and get a good feeling and inspiration and some good memories, but we actually have that travel along with us. So Francesco, as we, as you said at the beginning, that we want this pattern, this wave to continue. And so that's the hope out of the activation day and thus some of the framing and design. My experience in facilitation of these kinds.
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Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: Yeah, Laura just wanted to let you know, for some reason Shamani didn't get the invitation, so I just forwarded it to her and she's freeing up something and will join us in just a minute. Okay.
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Michael Shaun Conaway: Yeah, she's on the. The invite list.
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Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: I forwarded it to her. So anyway, I don't know what happened, but I'm just letting you know if.
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Michael Shaun Conaway: That was that technology conversation, it's a. Miracle when it works. Yeah. So before I continue on about activation, is there anybody's thoughts on that kind. Of framing that I offered there? Zenka missed a part of it, but I went through arriving home, the implicate feeling, the connection to all. Saturday being the day of possibility and inspiration and Sunday collaboration in individuals and communities coming together to create projects that are love in action.
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Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: Yeah, yeah.
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Francesco Garri Garripoli, CommunityAwake: I think what we'll do with the consciousness exploration at some level is to remind people to integrate. We're talking about integrating, implicate, exploit. We're talking about integrating communities that I hope that panel will be able to talk about integrating internally because once that's secure, then somebody leaves. They haven't left.
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Michael Shaun Conaway: Yeah.
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Francesco Garri Garripoli, CommunityAwake: So this is a big part of the activation as far as I'm concerned.
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Michael Shaun Conaway: Now let's talk about that. I think we have a date set for that conversation.
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Francesco Garri Garripoli, CommunityAwake: Yeah, yeah, we will.
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Zenka Caro: I was just going to say quickly that. Yeah, like so Cassandra Bitten, when she was working in ions, did this whole ecosystem of change and when you Shakti people with Major, you know, an activation where they've expanded their worldview, expanded their mind and their heart. They also often have a snapback that happens and you have to inject.
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Michael Shaun Conaway: Yeah, but wait. But wait.
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Zenka Caro: And then the community and the tools. So like us establishing some community for them, some connections, some like some projects, helps them sustain that whole awakening that they might have with us.
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Francesco Garri Garripoli, CommunityAwake: Absolutely critic. Absolutely critical. And why I'm here, because that's what I love. First talking with Laura, once I saw that love in action in a real practical way, I said, that is the missing piece that is so important, so beautiful.
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Susan Belchamber: It's made a difference to people that I've spoken with, with the different Holons too, that they feel still connected with actual people. Right. I mean, it's always better if you can touch and feel them and meet them in person. But I think this is something that I would love to achieve on activation day, that we can do this, we can still do this online. That people will have met each other in person. That's always a first step to have actually had that meeting. And then they know each other. And then we can enrich things with still doing breakouts and letting people know each other more and more, because that's where the trust gets involved. And also that this is a whole map now of all the big pieces of the Hola movement, and people feel like they're part of that too. That's going to be a unique thing that we carry forward, that we didn't achieve really that much from our first waves.
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Francesco Garri Garripoli, CommunityAwake: And you'll see that what we're going to be doing with Wuji Mountain will be creating a continuity with a consistent programming and the messaging that will come, you'll see. We'll talk about this more. But essentially a channel that is a consistent message that connects, puts these themes together and presents it on a regular basis. So there's a continuity for people. So I think it's very important.
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Michael Shaun Conaway: Hi, Shamani. Welcome.
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Shamini Jain: Hi, everybody.
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Susan Belchamber: Glad you could come.
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Shamini Jain: Yeah, I'm so sorry. I'm just going to be on audio right now because I'm just getting ready to take off to have a meeting somewhere off camp, off campus, you can say in about 45 minutes. But I am here and I am listening.
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Michael Shaun Conaway: Wonderful. Great to have you.
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Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: Thanks, Dominique.
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Michael Shaun Conaway: It occurs to me that I have been, you know, dancing with the Holy. Movement since about September last year, working. Somewhat full time since January. It occurs to me that the thing. That I have gotten clear over that time is that the Hola movement is the space of collaboration and connection. It's the coordination layer of things, it's. Not the things themselves, which is actually. Delightful in a way, Francesco, because everything. You're doing can show up in that space as the things you're doing. And the invitation is for you and Zynga to collaborate, for you to be. To be organizations or things in that space that have this supercharged environment to connect and collaborate inside of we are, the medium is in biology. You have these dishes where you grow different bacteria. That is this medium that is rich for growing those kinds of life. And I think the Holy Movement is exactly that. This is medium where it has this conductivity to it, this super sauce of richness for people. And as I work on this and think about it more and more, that coordination quality, that ability to help easily have people to connect to either the. Movements or the organizations or elements inside of the movements, even the individuals in. The movements, is really wonderful. And that because the whole movement has an overall direction towards greater consciousness, towards greater unity, towards greater, greater planetary thriving. Because it has a direction that if the medium is moving, if the holo. Movement medium is moving, then we all. Take that journey together. It's not my journey or your journey. We have a place to be in that, a role to play in that. But I think that's the most extraordinary quality of this non organization called the Holy Movement. Yeah. And that's what's needed.
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Francesco Garri Garripoli, CommunityAwake: I mean, that that energetic petri dish, we used to call it biology, you know, that the petri dish, if it's an energetic one, and everyone can always feel connected to it. No matter where you feel like you might be drifting, there's some context, a contextual framework to come back to. That's, I think, our task as leaders.
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Michael Shaun Conaway: You and me, we're dancing together now. I feel it so strongly. And I feel. I feel so much like I've spent my whole life at times shouting into the wind at time with holding hands, with friends, trying to do things. But in many ways that context has been missing for me. I feel like I have to shoulder the weight in many ways, or there's so much to do, these kinds of feelings or overwhelm, or maybe I'll take on a smaller bite of the apple because I've got too much. And inside the hold movement, there's definitely. A feeling of like, oh my goodness, there's so many amazing people here, so many amazing organizations. I don't have to invent everything. There is a certain quality of, I guess, just, yes, you know, this feeling of, yes, this is the right way. This is the Right. Signal. And I think for myself personally, then that gives me the space to do what I'm really, really passionate about, what I'm really good at, or Zinc would say to live into my purpose. And it should do that for all of us. And maybe even more important, it should. Do that in such a way that we are able to connect and collaborate. We're able to really not just, hey, I think Zenka's got the person, the purpose thing going. But how do I feel the energy and love of Zenka's work in my life so that I feel completed by that? I think that's the. And that's this miracle of coming together in activation days. Like we're there to facilitate something for. Everybody, but we are also being acted. Upon at the exact same time. We are part of the same journey as the people we're facilitating for. I think that's a really important distinction for me. Yeah.
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Susan Belchamber: Susan, I would love for you to talk about Michael Shawn, the interconnection between the people that are going to be there, the majority of the people that are going to be there for three days, and then this fourth day event, and then really talking about herding cats, bringing them all back in to the picture afterwards. I think that, that how we integrate the excitement from activation day without people feeling left behind, but to really help them feel integrated and really invited into something that we're really founding together. Everyone wants to be founders.
00:25:21
Michael Shaun Conaway: Yeah. Beautiful question. Thank you, Susan. So I think of the Wave as a prototype. It's in its fourth edition this year. It's prototyping, how to bring community together, to be this coordinating layer, to be this space of encouraging growth, of collaboration. To me, I think the idea is that, for me, the way where I see it from is that the idea isn't to keep replicating the prototype, but to understand that this cycle, from welcoming people home, the implicate, the possibility, the explicate, and then collaborating to taking action together is a. Is a cycle that can begin to happen with more and more frequent iterations and patterns that, you know, I think we could aim towards the next couple. Years quarterly and then eventually towards. There's this kind of feeling. There's always one of those stages happening. Somewhere in the field at any given time, so that anybody who's new comes into the field feels that welcoming, gets introduced to the implicate, gets the excitement of the explicate, and then. And then arrives at their turn to take a chance. And last night, Laura and Purpose Earth made their presentation and it just felt so Good. Like all of it just felt so good. The. The people who are presenting, the people. Who had projects and receiving money, the. That all the pieces that just resonated so deeply and. And if we can introduce people to that as a possibility in their life, no matter what part they. They participate in that, I think we're doing a really great job. So, vis a vis the reason I mentioned.
00:27:07
Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: Yes, Sorry, Michael.
00:27:08
Michael Shaun Conaway: No, go ahead, Lauren.
00:27:10
Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: I was just thinking about yesterday and I'm not sure all of you were able to attend, but it was our sixth annual event celebrating these change makers. And I think what was so beautiful was a comment that was made by our grant recipient in New Zealand from this Hark project. And she said, you know, this is a project that's trying to help save birds through using sound devices. It's extraordinarily beautiful. All of the projects are bring tears to my eyes. But she said, I have never been to a project recognition like this, a ceremonial thing like this where we're actually meditating. We're actually like diving. It's not just talking about the projects and the boots on the ground type of work, but we're actually feeling into the spark of our souls and the centering of our ability to connect. And there was such an extraordinary ripple effect of emotion. And people were literally crying at the end. I mean, they were people that we had never met yet, and yet had been looking at their applications for months and months and sharing this ripple effect of love, I think is, to Michael Shawn's point, that's really where we're going with all of this. And it's something that Zenka has done beautifully with her work with Purpose Lab, with Hola Movement, and helping to connect people and really finding the depths of their spiritual experience to help take that out into a beautiful way. And Francesco, I know it's what you do all the time. So the Monday activation, I think for all of us is that opportunity, as Michael Shahn was saying, to bring love into action. But that is in no way to leave behind the people who are there for the core experience of Friday through Sunday and what we found in Asheville, and this is the first time we're doing this, the second piece, which is on the activation. But what we found with every one of our events is that it creates an opportunity that is through a field of understanding that comes and encourages people to start forming Holons. And we're going to go into that during the event itself so that people will have a clear understanding that there is an opportunity to be deeply Involved whether they're able to attend the Monday experience or not. Laura, it's something that we really want to drive home. Yeah. Shamani, is that you?
00:29:53
Shamini Jain: Yeah. I was just going to say, first of all, congratulations on the sixth Purpose Earth celebration. I'm sad that I missed it, but it. It sounds like it was absolutely beautiful and to the point that, you know, everyone's saying and. And what Susan is saying too. I'm just curious if during the program, whether on Activation Day or otherwise, you're going to have any representatives from HOLA movement chapters speak about what their experience has been like and what the work is. Is that part of Activation Day or.
00:30:23
Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: I don't know if you can see me nodding right now.
00:30:26
Shamini Jain: I can, yes.
00:30:28
Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: There's a very. A really important part of what we're doing right now is we're launching micro grants for Holons. So this is something that is being activated as we speak. And we will be recognizing some of the Holons that are at the event on Sunday. So that really is the day of more diving into the explicate the actual action that we're taking as a whole. And we'll be recognizing some of our Holons honoring with the work that they're doing and providing a lot more information on how people can become involved so that it doesn't require attendance on Monday to do that. Because a big part of Monday also is. It's going to be very much in the flow. And Michael will talk about that a little bit more shortly. But the Monday is also an opportunity for us to deeply connect the organizations that are essentially forming the walls of this vessel of the HOLU movement, which is a non business entity. It's not a 501C3, it doesn't have a bank account, it's formed by its members. So if you imagine the Holo movement as being the hands that are supporting all of this relational activity, going on between Lightnet, going on with Community Awake, going on with Conscious Healing Initiative and Deepening Pachamama alliance, all of these organizations that are coming together and forming the depth of our synergistic activity respond to your question. Germany.
00:32:15
Shamini Jain: Yeah, thank you. That helps. Oh, now look at that. My 10 o' clock just got pushed.
00:32:20
Michael Shaun Conaway: So I have a little.
00:32:21
Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: Hey.
00:32:22
Francesco Garri Garripoli, CommunityAwake: Yay.
00:32:23
Alex Melnyk: Okay.
00:32:24
Susan Belchamber: Laura, that image of you, I know it's not true.
00:32:27
Michael Shaun Conaway: Susan, that was.
00:32:28
Francesco Garri Garripoli, CommunityAwake: I saw it.
00:32:32
Shamini Jain: Thank you, Goddess.
00:32:33
Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: Okay, but that really is it, right?
00:32:37
Michael Shaun Conaway: It is it.
00:32:38
Francesco Garri Garripoli, CommunityAwake: And no one has done this. I mean, there. I've been doing this since when I work with Barbara Hubbard. I live with Barbara Marks Hubbard for two and a half years as her personal guy running her executive director for a nonprofit. We had this thing called the Syncons. Similar in a way to what we're doing now. The synergistic convergence Syncons in Washington D.C. top organizations, big Hilton Ballroom had all these people together. Everybody had the buzz, everybody felt so good. Government organizations, private NGOs were freaking out that they could connect. And then it was over. And it was the saddest moment because there was no continuity. There is no way for these people to connect on. The few little sparks that continued were just by just luck, but not by.
00:33:25
Shamini Jain: This is a meeting that never scheduled.
00:33:27
Francesco Garri Garripoli, CommunityAwake: So this is where we can change now 50 years later and really do it right.
00:33:33
Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: Yes, thank you. But that's it. That is absolutely it. And Barbara, Mark Summer is. Was a big impetus and a big influence on us. She used to call Emmanuel her little brother. He spent so much she awarded us with an Innovators award A couple of years after we met, we were doing in cultural exchange and activating young people all over the planet to take action. There she is.
00:34:01
Shamini Jain: And I'm sorry, I misread the text. It's the opposite. And this is a donor and board member. I wish I could put it off, but I can't. And her schedule changed and she's already on her way to the venue and wants to meet early, not late. So I'm on my way there.
00:34:17
Michael Shaun Conaway: Then may all the talk that we do, all the energy we generate help. To help your donor to feel even more generous than they felt before today?
00:34:26
Shamini Jain: Well, no, she's wonderful. And actually I'm going to tell her that she should be coming to the Holland movement, but I don't know if she'd be able to. But I apologize for the flurry of in and out this morning. I know that we have another meeting for another purpose on the 14th, but if there's anything.
00:34:43
Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: And that's still on. Germany.
00:34:45
Shamini Jain: Yeah, I will. And I'll. I. I'll just ping you with a few questions if I have them. But I totally trust the flow of this. I'm 100% so honored to be there and to be co facilitating with you, Franchesco. I just. I really look forward. Francisco or Franchesco.
00:35:00
Francesco Garri Garripoli, CommunityAwake: Francesco.
00:35:01
Michael Shaun Conaway: Francesco.
00:35:02
Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: Francesco. I will answer to any Francesco Garoppoli.
00:35:07
Shamini Jain: I really look forward to meeting in person and I'm sorry for my flurry of in and out this morning.
00:35:12
Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: Okay, no worries, Shamini. And we'll send you the video. So if you Want to listen to the last few minutes?
00:35:17
Shamini Jain: That'd be great.
00:35:18
Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: Pick up?
00:35:18
Shamini Jain: Yeah, that'd be great. All right, thank you.
00:35:21
Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: Lots of love to you and we'll see you on the screen. Thank you so much. Bye.
00:35:26
Michael Shaun Conaway: So I want to take a minute and actually get back to Susan's original question. We've kind of answered a little bit. Laura added some. Some detail on it. But I wanted to say that, that. Our approach this year maybe, I mean it's. It's unique. We had this moment with Emanue. He clearly stated a vision, which he. Seems to be reticent to do. Sometimes he kind of sits back a. Lot and thinks and is quiet, but. Every once in a while he speaks. Up and he really spoke about this thing that Laura just mentioned, that we together are the vessel or the space of the whole of movement. And that while it was interesting to have each one of you come do the thing that you do that what. Was more interesting is that you. That we come and we add to the richness of this environment, this petri dishes, as Francesco said, that we consciously put energy into that, to our space together, to the holy movement together. And so if you look at the structure of what we're doing on Monday, it's not that we have you guys with your expertise and we're gonna have you teach people. It's more that these are the domains and areas that feel the most alive to us. We have great facilitators in that we want the whole community to have a conversation about, to have a future invention moment about, to think about what collectively we're going to do in these areas. That's the six themes that are in the deck. Collaborative Commerce, Sacred Ecology, Catalytic Philanthropy, Impact Infrastructure, which has to do with technology, Emerging consciousness, and the seed studio, which is our.
00:37:08
Alex Melnyk: Our.
00:37:08
Michael Shaun Conaway: Our parking lot for any emergent ideas that come up during the event or people come in with it that we really want to give some time to. So the.
00:37:17
Breathe, Center, and Stretch: The.
00:37:17
Michael Shaun Conaway: Those six themes aren't just for activation day. Those are going to be mentioned on. Day one, that during the. This year's wave, we're going to be taking action on these themes and growing and developing in these areas. We will put up in the main. Meeting hall boards or walls where people. Can reflect on about four or five different questions and post their thoughts right on starting Saturday and Sunday about that area, that theme, how we might be able to do something or make some progress or what's most important in the area. And that we'll let everybody know as we go on. We'll be first of all, sometimes pulling. Some of those things off the wall. And say, hey, Zen cassette posted on the sacred ecology wall. Something about this, I just wanted to call it to everybody's tension. Isn't that amazing? That's something that feels like it's got a lot of energy too. So we'll actually give a little bit. Of energy into the space to give people a feeling like, oh, it's important that I participate with these themes on Saturday and Sunday just as I'm walking around in my transition periods. That way, by time we hit Monday. And activation day, those themes are alive. In the space for the people that are staying. But even more important, I think what. Susan's mentioning is that we, we will. Actually take all of those thoughts, all. Of those ideas that were presented on Saturday and Sunday in these six themes and we'll take them into our thinking on our, our Monday activation day that we're actually going to take those people along for the ride whether they are there or not. And then we're going to as much as we can feed back into the community about what, what came out of it. And I'll be clear about that in a minute. I want to actually just go over the outcomes of the day a little bit more. But we really want this feeling like. Everybody is invited to participate. Just because you're not there on Monday is not. Doesn't mean you're part of. Not part of it. If you have a particular attachment to a theme, we'll have the ability in the app for you to go in and join that theme and share things and see what the group of people came up with. So Susan, does that answer your question? Is there anything that I'm. It's beautiful.
00:39:21
Susan Belchamber: Thank you.
00:39:23
Michael Shaun Conaway: I think the idea is that the. Activation day is an opportunity, but the. Function of having people come together, collaborate,. Create, hold ons and projects and make impact should be an everyday thing and everyday everybody thing. It's not a special group of people. Who get to do this. It just happens to be that we're going to have a day for the people who can stay to work on these things. So a couple of things I just want to call out. Obviously everybody has a deck so you. Can kind of COVID things. I want to call it two places.
00:39:53
Zenka Caro: Where.
00:39:55
Michael Shaun Conaway: Two or three places where the. Facilitation is really critical. Let me share my screen really quick. So just to mention, we're gonna Activation day. We're gonna have limit Taggart set an intention with us. She does her intention setting. I don't Know if anybody's had that experience, but she'll set it. She'll work on setting in general, showing. How setting intention creates this field for the realization or the thing happening, especially if it's in the domain of love. And then she's going to work with us to open a space. I think this is a conversation that Laura's been having. Open the space of what is the. Intention for the whole day. We'd really love for people to have a very powerful intention that becomes the context for the work throughout the day. So from this place of expanded intention,. Participants choose the theme. So I feel this opening. I have an idea of what theme I want to go to. And in that moment in the day, I commit to the theme I want to enter into. Now, once they enter into the theme,. I want to just talk about this interview process. The background of the work that we're going to be doing comes out of future searching, which was a process invented. In the 1970s to help communities come together. And I mean often actually municipalities that had many stakeholders. And oftentimes the stakeholders would be at. Odds so they would not come into these processes seeing things from the same point of view. It was designed in such a way. That there was a non hierarchical participation. There was no leaders and small people. But everybody had an equal opportunity to express themselves. And that by keeping people in small. Groups of interaction and harvesting ideas out. Of that, we end up with nobody able to. Being able to take the stage. And also an ability for every participant to have an opportunity to express what was coming to them and through them. The start of this small group process. Is in this crafting a provocative interview. So, and when we look at the theme of. Of consciousness, we're not talking about a. Philosophical conversation about consciousness. We're talking about this consciousness and how. It comes into action, how it gets expanded, how it gets integrated, how it shows up in the world. And so for the facilitators, the, the. That the way that we get to. Projects in consciousness that are impactful is for you to think profoundly about the domains. What are the areas of consciousness that people could come together and collaborate on and then produce a project that had a lasting impact. And so the interview is. The piece that sets the direction because what we. Do is we have the interview and. It's usually four or five questions. Oftentimes I'd like to write them. So there's ABC parts. So a part is how do you feel about this? B part is how would this show.
00:43:01
Zenka Caro: Up in the world?
00:43:01
Michael Shaun Conaway: And C is what are some Practical applications of. And that's an example. But the idea is that each part deepens the idea. Then when we go through the rounds. After the interview, we unpack 1a and 2c and 3d. We unpack certain pieces of that which are going to be the rich veins of ideas of genius and creation that people come from. So for you, and we can workshop this before we get to the wave,. If anybody needs some wants to have. A conversation directly with me. What are the questions that get people. To look in the right direction? And so this way, a lot of. The facilitation is by deeply contemplating what. Are the areas in my theme that. We really need to have some consideration and genius applied? And what are the areas that I see that people coming together and collaborate could expand upon or create an impact in that area in a positive way? Out of those interviews, we part pair people up and the interviews are done as intentional listening, or as Susan reminded. Me, Bohmian dialogue, which is also another. Thing like intentional listening, where the listener. Just records what their partner says and. Asks questions to understand better. No adding their own input or oh. Yeah, I had an idea like that. Or once when I was a kid,. That listener literally listens and transcribes. I've had many people in these experiences. Saying they've never been listened to for so long like that. So that can be transformational for people. And then after the interviews, which take. About a half an hour after the interviews, those two people will travel through. The experience for the rest of the day, and each of the pair will. Be charged with the responsibility of sharing. Any idea that either one of them came up with in the interview. So if I'm. If I'm partnered with Susan, and Susan's a little resident to say because she's. Want to put her ideas out there. At the beginning and I think she has a great idea, then it's up to me. If Susan isn't offering the idea, say,. Hey, when I was doing the interview with Susan, she had this amazing idea. So our partners help all the ideas. Get into the space. So anybody who might normally hold back a little bit has somebody that helps them to get their ideas out. And then everybody asks them and suddenly what we find when we do that is at the end of the experience. Again, not only people feel listened to,. But they actually felt like they had a voice, even if they're the kind of personality that normally doesn't have a voice. So there again, I just want to point out the interviews and how powerful they're going to be. And then how we end up getting everybody engaged in the process of offering things. And then the last thing I wanted. To really just kind of talk about is the end of the day,.
00:45:49
Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: At.
00:45:49
Michael Shaun Conaway: The end of our processes, for every theme that comes out of our process. And again, we can go over this. Again before we get there. We will actually choose the ones that. Your group wants to move forward with. There may be a dozen ideas and. The group that you're facilitating has a. Chance to come together and if you will vote or heat map what themes they feel most passionate about that they themselves would like to contribute to and take action on. This could be one to four themes. I'm imagining that, that that would come out and in the last round, they. Basically try to create a. A statement about that theme that's based upon the outcome that that would create. So, you know, the, the feeling of belonging and a conscious community extends to all corners of the earth. Might be a really large one, but. It could be in our community or. Could be in Lisbon that we have a space where people feel that they can gather with other conscious community members and feel that they belong. Then we look for somebody or ask. Somebody in the group to actually just champion that idea and make a list of first steps. We're going to meet next week and talk about where we're going to put this meeting, etc. Then as we finish that last part of our breakouts, we'll come back into. The main room, the big hall, and we'll have a break, a slight break between where we'll bring all the work that we've done into the main hall. And the first part of that will be an exhibition of everything that we uncovered during the day. So there'll be people who are championing. Specific ideas about projects that will stay home with their theme. And then everybody else is really encouraged to walk around, ask questions, make contributions to people's things. Everything will be in those big sticky white papers. So if we need to add notes. Or scratch a word out or actually have them be these aren't finished products, they'll be living projects. Gives just everybody a chance to connect with the work that's been done by the group. And then we'll allow the champions then to stand up, probably just in the circle of the space of the microphone and say what that group, that theme that they're championing has come up with. And this is an ability to there can go from idea to inspiration to the whole community holding and supporting that project to take off the ground. So that's I Think I wanted to. Share those pieces because I wanted you to see how we started off and. Then how we finish it and where it comes home to. I'm gonna pause there and give the rest of time for anybody's extra ideas or. Or inspirations or additions or. Yeah, but I'd like to hear them all with the rest of the time.
00:48:33
Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: We have here, especially because you guys are all experts at facilitation. So we're really interested in your feedback and what you see is the strengths. And if you see any things that could possibly be tightened or shifted slightly to be even more successful, this is an opportunity to.
00:48:55
Michael Shaun Conaway: Yes, collaboration starts right here and collaborates.
00:48:58
Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: Starting starting at the beginning of this conversation. So.
00:49:04
Zenka Caro: So I would like to understand better the hours of the day. So how many hours do we have with them first? How many. Like, what's the actual time? Time, hours. The other question I had was. So that first block you had, where we do the. Before the partner and the listening thing is that. That we choose people to have, like an interview or is the whole thing supposed to be in. In that first block supposed to be collaborative? And then the third question I have is that, I mean, especially with the seed studio, where they might be different projects, like, are we supposed to, like, people are going to come. These are the people that come to Hola Movement have amazing projects already.
00:49:49
Michael Shaun Conaway: They have initiatives.
00:49:51
Zenka Caro: Maybe they're looking for collaboration, maybe they're looking for synergies. Maybe they're looking for, like, an ecosystem that brings, you know, like, oh, you know, we could do this together. And I don't know, like, so what are we looking for them to create a whole new project amongst them, or are we looking for them to collaborate more across their discipline?
00:50:13
Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: Yeah.
00:50:14
Michael Shaun Conaway: Really, really great question. I think the ultimate answer is yes, right? That we're an open space because we're. We're the. We are the. We are the connective tissue, right? We're the space in which these things happen. There is a. We have to understand in the default paradigm, there is the individualistic urge that I come in with my project, I want people to contribute to me. I want my outcomes to happen. And what the opportunity for everybody is is to understand that they may have. A project that's stuck in some way,. Or they wouldn't be looking for things. And maybe there's somebody else in the space that has a tangential or there's a space between. Or not only that, but maybe even. Their project continues to exist, the other person's project, and they. Together, they work on something that aids both projects. So we're looking for that synergistic multiplier. I think that's really what we want because we want people to walk away. Going, that was unexpected. What I got out of that was not at all what I thought I went into. And what I have now is, you know, X squared times more powerful. And I'm, I feel now, suddenly now. I, the thing I was shouldering, that was difficult. This is my own story. The thing I was shouldering this difficult. Now it may still be difficult, but. What we're up to is so big and so juicy that I, I'm, I'm, I'm revitalized. I think that's really the hope. So we don't want to repress people from trying to get their projects to. Work and we don't want to, we don't want to enforce anything, but we want to create this rich environment for collaborative thinking and for, and, and I. Think for us at the holo movement,. Remember our, our game is to not be something that holds on to anything. Our game is to be the space in which all things grow. And so the more we can encourage that new paradigm thinking, the new world of, you know, multi level and interconnected and collaborative, not individual things that have by necessity of the paradigm, a competitive need to survive. So the more we give an experience. Of that, the better to me. And then, and then I believe, I. Trust that if we do our job. Of creating the wave, having the wave effect, creating the intentions at the beginning. Of the day, holding space, which is encouraging this genius to bubble up, that. It's going to happen without us trying to make it happen. Laura.
00:52:32
Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: I think Susan had her hand up before me.
00:52:35
Michael Shaun Conaway: Oh yeah, Susan.
00:52:37
Susan Belchamber: Oh, well, it doesn't. We're probably both going to say similar things, I bet. But there are two things that I feel are really essential. First, this phrase that has just been with me for the last few months about we are not asking for consensus, we're asking for harmony. Harmony is possible and durable. The other thing, the big thing is that we have a magic start to the day that we haven't talked about, which is, you know, Lynn McTaggart and this intention setting that this is, you know, after a few days of the wave, people start believing in magic. They do. And I think that that morning we will have this manifestation of magic and intention that is possible and people will be in that frame and want to achieve it at the end. So I, you wanted to say something like this.
00:53:48
Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: I thought, Laura, you and I are always On a similar track, Susan, I, I actually was thinking about just the whole, the intention setting that will occur that morning. And you know, Michael Shawn made, made reference to it and we know from having been Francesco, we hadn't fallen in love with you yet at that point. But when we were in Ibiza two years ago, we had Lynn with us and we did an intention setting that was so powerful and she had us break into groups that did this extraordinary healing of individuals within the groups and we saw the power of them miraculous, you know, with our own eyes. We felt it, we lived it, we breathed it. And that will happen again during our Monday morning activation with Lynne. So the first half will be dedicated to that and the second half will be dedicated specifically to taking that magic, as Susan says, into the field and sort of gifting us or reminding us of the power that we have as individuals to create something that is beyond conscious collaboration and really is that heart centered implicate realm that makes things happen beyond our, our imaginations. So that is going to happen. And then a very practical thing that I was thinking about Michael Shawn that we probably should talk about a little bit is the follow up post Monday and I think that's important for our facilitators to be thinking about and unaware of and I'm certain something that everybody has got in their mind's eye right now. James, before Michael responds to that, is there anything you wanted wanted to say or share? I'm happy to see you sitting outside on a beautiful day, wherever you are.
00:55:46
Breathe, Center, and Stretch: Yeah, I got to get some sun. Happy to be here and listening and as you're speaking, as you're all speaking, just envisioning the day and imagining how the technology can be a partner in all of this as well. We spoke at the beginning of that. I think of it as a fire. How we come together and we create these big bonfires and then we want these ways to keep these campfires burning through the year until we can meet together again. And that's a big reason why we've been building this, building this platform. So I'm very excited for Monday as well as an on ramp into that digital space, giving people a place that's, that's ours to stay connected and keep those fires burning and keep the conversations going. And so yeah, just holding the curiosity as to how the, how the digital spaces can be in service to this experience on Monday and our, our overall intentions through the year.
00:57:15
Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: Beautiful.
00:57:16
Michael Shaun Conaway: Yeah. Should I show them? Maybe I should just give you a little so that the answer Laura's question is that we've been working on with James for the past five months. A digital ecosystem that's all about connectivity. So, you know, you think about. Most apps are about. About a thing that does something for you. This is a thing that supports connection and. And collaboration. So I just got to show you. A couple of images of what we're launching right now, and we'll be in action on the day. I'll show you our map where people. Show up and if anybody knows the. Old Hola Movement site, we had a map. We actually have a much more sophisticated mapping application to let us see where the hotspots are, where people are, what they're doing. I think I'm here somewhere. There's Jill. We can see Jill by clicking on her. So you can actually navigate the world. And see the other people who are. Leading in these spaces. Here's Jill's page. These. These pages also have a new. A new assessment that James largely drove both the. The design of the assessment and this beautiful triangular way of reading the assessment so we can learn about ourselves. Look, you can see that Jill is highly integral, which is not surprising. And she's pretty much down the middle. I think James is more. A little more. Now you're on the. You're on the visionary side of things.
00:58:41
Breathe, Center, and Stretch: A little more visionary. She's very balanced.
00:58:43
Michael Shaun Conaway: Yeah, yeah, she's very balanced. And then you can see that she's. Part of a holon in this hole and just happens to be the core team. Hold on. Which I started the other day. And so you can see the groups. That people belong to. This is the whole movement core team. This isn't all of us, because not. All of us have agreed to have it gotten the, the, the notice yet. And so projects will have their own. Home on our site with some things. About them, some tags, ongoing posting. Like I said, looking forward to seeing you all at the core team meeting. Tonight, which happens to be tonight. After the meeting tonight, I'll post something on our wall about. Just a general statement about what we talked about, what was going on for the core team. And this becomes a living environment where. Our community can continue to share about their project. We have the ability. We'll have the ability in time for people to do project planning, to match. Projects to projects or people to projects. We're really working hard to have a digital platform that helps to continue what the wave does organically.
00:59:43
Francesco Garri Garripoli, CommunityAwake: Beautiful.
00:59:44
Michael Shaun Conaway: Yeah, and it's. And it's. It's. We're. We're really, in a way, in quite a beautiful way at the beginning of this and this wave for us is when we have an opportunity to get people into the platform and interacting. It is the place that it's the spaceship. We all want them to get on on Saturday, Sunday and Monday so that on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday we can say hey, here's here. Here you all are. Check out where we're going. Check out all of the new projects, all the new holons that got created. Go go see what's happening in your neighborhood and you're part of the place planet. Go explore these amazing projects and connect with the people that you're engaged in a project with. I've got a minute or so. I think Zenka asked about the timing of the day. Is it, is it worth just saying goodbye or me to show you the schedule for 60 seconds and we go. A couple minutes over. Is that okay?
01:00:37
Francesco Garri Garripoli, CommunityAwake: Yeah, I think it's good. Zenka and I are thinking the same way. It's like I want to see a little structure here. You should probably even play act this one time at another time.
01:00:46
Michael Shaun Conaway: Yeah, that would be great. I think it would be really wonderful. So yeah, there's a couple of pieces of business that happen at the top of the day. We just invite people in the hall. Where the hall will be smaller on Monday than it is for the first two days. It won't have a big stage. It'll feel like a whole new experience. It'll really just be about this thing. I think we may put a stage in the center of that room which is a really low kind of just step up on the stage and speak space. We have a few, few pieceship Earth, one of our sponsors are going to. Speak and then the day really starts at 9:30 with a, a short 15 minute segment on how this is going to work, what we're going to do. Hopefully that this will land really easily. Hopefully everybody knows from our app where they're going to kind of pre have pre chosen their theme. If they've, they've decided beforehand. Hopefully this is a very small, this is not new for people. Then we're going to do Lynn McTaggart. She's going to do this hour of intention setting. When the intention setting is done we're. Going to give about 20 minutes in. The room and give all the facilitators at least one facilitator per theme for a theme to just talk a little bit about the theme and what they hope to get out of the day, what direction we're going. So this is a, a little bit last, last moment. Make sure everybody's in the right space, the space they want to be in, that they're, that they're feeling the, the attraction. Given the context that we've given. Then we have a break where we move to the breakout rooms. Now the breakout rooms are basically all on the same floor. I would say take three minutes max to walk to any breakout room from the main hall. Obviously there'll be things like coffee in the way and some bathroom breaks might be there, but that's when we start our breakout time and we go from 1120 to 1430 as breakouts. This includes, you know, I've written down the sessions that, that we have in the breakout rooms and we can go into that in further detail. This, you know, this breakout one is the interviews versus the first unpacking. There is some. There's a desire on my part for that. For the groups of six. They're groups of six and each time. You switch to a new topic, you get them to mix. So each pairing has two other pairings that they've not been with in each successive round. I have an ambition for maybe then to do one of those unpackings during lunch. We will talk with you guys again and the rest of the team as we get closer and figure out if that's something we want to do. There's an hour and a half for lunch. It's about a 25 minute session to unpack each idea. Then we have session two, which is again two and a half hours. This gives us the ability at least unpack three questions in that series or, or more. If we feel like you guys have more questions you'd like to tackle, that will be up to you. How many things you think are important for people to discuss in groups. The action when they're discussing in groups is there. They're talking about their ideas. And then when they get to an idea that the whole table of six feels like has energy, then they write a note about it and that goes up on the wall at the, at the end of the. Of that session too. Everybody starts moving more towards collating ideas and coming up with. With topics that are hanging together and objectives and projects out of it. It happens pretty quick. The level of a synergistic, synergistic genius. At the end of the day seems. To be super high in these things. People see the connections really well. And then at 16:30 we have a break again. This is a little bit of a bathroom break, coffee break again and do and set up for the final session which is an hour and a Half.
01:04:28
Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: Thanks, James, for being here.
01:04:31
Michael Shaun Conaway: Bye, James.
01:04:31
Breathe, Center, and Stretch: Nope, no problem.
01:04:33
Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: Hey, and I think maybe everything's okay with the profile, by the way, so.
01:04:37
Breathe, Center, and Stretch: Yeah, it looks great. I was just.
01:04:39
Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: Okay, great. Sorry to bother you. Thanks. Bye.
01:04:42
Breathe, Center, and Stretch: Bye. Thank you, Michael. Sean.
01:04:44
Michael Shaun Conaway: Okay, so I will. We're, we're pretty much done with this. I think. We'll, we'll talk amongst ourselves on the team and I'll send this out to. You guys as a. I'll make some kind of document out of it so. You can just see. Maybe I can do a version that. Just has more detail. I have a. Actually have a written document for the whole day. And maybe we put this time schedule. With a kind of written document for the whole thing to go out in this. A next step.
01:05:07
Susan Belchamber: I just want to add with if Lynn Twist and Samantha Sweetwater, listen to this. Yes, this is Lynn. This is your dream of four years ago becoming manifest. And Samantha Sweetwater. This is the true human coming into formation and coming together as a community. I just feel all of the pieces. We're here for a reason, all of us. And this is just so beautiful. Michael, Sean, thank you for pulling it together.
01:05:41
Michael Shaun Conaway: You're welcome, Susan. And you mentioned them, and I'm like, oh, I want to be in their breakout group. I want to be one of the participants of their breakout group.
01:05:50
Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: Oh, they're all going to be amazing. They're all going to be incredible. Any words of wisdom from Senka?
01:05:57
Michael Shaun Conaway: Last words of wisdom? So we've already had a few. Right.
01:05:59
Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: Love to hear you. Just really quick, anything that you'd like to, to suggest or.
01:06:06
Francesco Garri Garripoli, CommunityAwake: I like to, you know me, I love words and being Italian, I love the Latin, Greek roots to things. Do you know the root to the word genius? Well, of course, it's gener to create or produce. But the real word of genius is a spirit guide. Your genius is your spirit guide. Not only yours, but the community spirit, spirit guide that you call upon for that information that you need. That is your genius. It's not a personal thing. It's a community collective spirit.
01:06:40
Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: I love that.
01:06:41
Michael Shaun Conaway: Yeah, I love that. And I think that's. I, I, in all my years of leading this, I'm. I have to say I'm always continually. Surprised by the power of that. The collective power of letting people be. The conduit to that. Surprised by the outcomes, of course, the. Things that they come up with. That's amazing. That's genius, we say. But even more surprised by the effect. It has on people when you give. Them the gift to be the One that generates. When you say you're the one not. We up at the front of the room are going to take you on a journey now. But, no, we're putting this in your hands. And not only are we putting it. In your hands, but we're astonished by the amazing clarity, the amazing beauty and love that comes out of. Of what you do. And so, for me, that's always the. The real gift at the end of this is to not only see what they created, but see who they are being, the ones that created this. And that's the. You said, mentioned the true human. That's what we want. We want those people to go out in the world because they'll be much more resourced than the ones that got told what to do. Obviously, we're not going to do that, but that's the aim.
01:07:45
Alex Melnyk: I just add to that. Francesca, thank you so much. So much for bringing up that notion of root cause, root word, of genius. Because I've witnessed Michael Schwann leading these for a number of years, and it's just a magical experience. And what I would say, my takeaway and the takeaway for everybody that's in the room is that they feel part of something.
01:08:10
Michael Shaun Conaway: Absolutely.
01:08:11
Alex Melnyk: Something really important. And that's exactly what we're doing. We're harvesting the genius, their genius in the room. And then it comes together, and then people really feel inspired because then they're continuing to take whatever that was, that experience, and just feel like I'm wanting to continue. It's just. It's just really beautiful. It's really a beautiful thing. So I just wanted to mention.
01:08:39
Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: That's beautiful.
01:08:41
Susan Belchamber: Evolutionary, collaborative genius.
01:08:46
Michael Shaun Conaway: I just saw Scarlet coming into the room.
01:08:50
Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: Oh, there she is.
01:08:53
Zenka Caro: I'm so sorry.
01:08:54
Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: This was not on my calendar.
01:08:55
Michael Shaun Conaway: My apologies. I'm so sorry. I just got off a call. We're so glad to have you, though, even if it's the end of the call.
01:09:05
Susan Belchamber: Thank you.
01:09:06
Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: Okay.
01:09:07
Alex Melnyk: We're just here to wish you a magical day.
01:09:09
Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: That's right.
01:09:10
Michael Shaun Conaway: Thank you.
01:09:14
Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: With us all the time.
01:09:16
Michael Shaun Conaway: Yeah.
01:09:16
Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: Oh, it's so good to see you, Scarlett. And we'll. We'll call another one. We'll make sure. I'll. I'll be. I'll be responsible for getting in touch with you, so make sure you get the. The next one. But it was a really good meeting. And we'll send you the video.
01:09:30
Zenka Caro: Okay.
01:09:31
Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: Love you madly and so happy to see you. Love you all, too.
01:09:36
Francesco Garri Garripoli, CommunityAwake: Okay, thank you, everyone.
01:09:38
Breathe, Center, and Stretch: Peace.
01:09:39
Michael Shaun Conaway: Thanks, Francesco. Really looking forward to a call next week.
01:09:42
Francesco Garri Garripoli, CommunityAwake: Me too. And a hug soon.
01:09:44
Michael Shaun Conaway: Too much.
01:09:45
Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: Take care.
01:09:46
Michael Shaun Conaway: Ciao.
01:09:46
Francesco Garri Garripoli, CommunityAwake: Ciao.
01:09:50
Michael Shaun Conaway: Okay.
01:09:51
Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: Okay.
01:09:51
Michael Shaun Conaway: Zenka asked me if I could stand longer. Laura asked me if I could stand.
01:09:55
Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: Oh, okay. I was just going to talk to you about communication. I think a lot of the people that Marika was going to reach out to didn't get the message.
01:10:03
Zenka Caro: You can hit pause on the.
01:10:05
Michael Shaun Conaway: I can work on that.
01:10:08
Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: You and I can work on that together. Okay.
01:10:10
Michael Shaun Conaway: Okay. So. So communication to. To in general.
01:10:15
Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: No, on this particular, like, meeting, like.
01:10:18
Michael Shaun Conaway: Yeah.
01:10:18
Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: People that she was going to reach out to. I don't think.
01:10:21
Michael Shaun Conaway: Okay. Anyway, didn't get the message.
01:10:23
Laura K Rose Purpose Earth: We'll deal. We'll handle it. I'll talk to you about it later. Okay. Michael.
01:10:31
Zenka Caro: Sean, you're amazing. Thanks for leading that so beautifully. I just have five minutes. But since. Can you just like, just say it in plain English? So that first part, since. Since mine is a hodgepodge, like, I don't know who to have interviews. Explain that just real quick like.
01:10:52
Michael Shaun Conaway: Yeah, because you won't have a specific. I'm going to help you with this too, because this will require. This requires somewhat of a level of abstraction. So the interview that you're. So there's these six domains, the five domains other than the ones. And so in your domain, in your. Set of questions, I think the first. Thing I would ask is,. What are the other domains? What are the other areas that. That the hola movement can serve? And I think the idea of this question is it's, it's if the holomoon is the. The coordination layer, the collaboration layer, what are the domains that. That require more than what you can bring to the world, yourself, you and your organization. What are the domains that require collaboration? So that'll get them immediately thinking, not that immediately puts them in a space of like, what. What can we come together on versus how do I spend the next. The next five hours, you know, building my project in this room? And then I think from there the. That it can be an abstraction. The next question is, you know, given that, you know, pick. Pick one of the domains you listed above, and, you know, then we can. Do the same kind of questioning we. Would do about a theme, you know, asking about where it takes place in the world, who it impacts and, and what's the greatest good that can come for that kind of stuff, and then continue drilling down the, the possibility, the, the real. So in every one of these, and. I didn't mention it a lot here, there's a. There's a thing that I love doing. And you'll find that there'll be people. In the room that really love doing this. When they start, when you start getting. A bunch of ideas, you start going,. Oh, this one and this one seem an awful lot like, let's put them together. And then, oh, there's another one that seems like that. And you start to get these stacks. Of notes that are kind of ideas in the similar space. Let's say, all right, we need more libraries could come up in the seat,. But we need this library thing, this, you know, and then, oh, here's somebody wants to do a physical library and here's something that's a media library. Here's somebody wants to do it in social media. Like, oh, those are all librarious type things. We're going to put them together and. Then when they start coming together and you, you start keep drilling down and we start asking more specific questions. Now suddenly it's like, actually we have physical libraries or actually we have digital library. We have need something, we need a meeting space that's not a, not a. Library of prerecording, but live things. You'll find that people will automatically start. Coming up with more and more specific solutions. And you want to invite them, especially. In the seed studio, we want to invite them into maybe earlier collaboration. In fact, if you want to, we. Could pioneer, actually, instead of doing the. Whole interview at one time, we could. Do the first question and unpack it. And then from the first question have them say, well, these are the, you know, that question was something about what are the areas? Then let's pick three areas in the. Room and then ask the second question. And so that we don't end up with too wide of a catch net, we could make it, we could customize it is what I'm saying. That might, might help to funnel people at least a little bit. I mean, you could have four or five different ideas that come out that are completely different, but you don't want 15 or 20 ideas that are completely different coming out of there. That will stretch you too thin, I think, or stretch the group too thin to actually execute.
01:14:24
Zenka Caro: So I mean, if there's only 100 people, there's six groups. I might have six people, I might have five people. Because they might naturally go to the other things. Like, I mean, even if we had six, even if it was equal, equal, it wouldn't be that many people.
01:14:39
Michael Shaun Conaway: But.
01:14:39
Zenka Caro: So the interview is not that you're bringing an expert or choosing one or two people, it's interviewing the whole group. Because that got me confused.
01:14:48
Michael Shaun Conaway: That word yeah, it's pairs partners interviewing one another.
01:14:53
Zenka Caro: Oh, okay. But I thought that was after, in the second section. Like where does the group of six and where does the partners go and how, how does the interview work?
01:15:01
Michael Shaun Conaway: So everybody comes in, we get them matched up in partners. When I do this with groups, we. Actually choose the partners. In this case you just have them choose somebody.
01:15:09
Alex Melnyk: Okay.
01:15:10
Michael Shaun Conaway: So for example, I love putting CEOs. With somebody really junior in the company.
01:15:13
Zenka Caro: Right, right.
01:15:14
Michael Shaun Conaway: And by the end, the CEO saying this person, I had no idea they worked in the company. They're the most amazing person. They're so brilliant. They're connected with a secretary or somebody who works in warehousing or something like that. And because they don't understand that, they. Don't understand that people all over the. Organization have this power. So but we won't do that because.
01:15:34
Zenka Caro: Put them in twos. And then I seed these, these big.
01:15:37
Michael Shaun Conaway: Questions like so we give them the interview. It might be digital or physical piece of paper, probably paper and pencil is the best way to do. And then they interview. So I ask the question and I write the answer. I ask the question, write the answer. And then they, then we swap and. Then the questioner becomes the listener, becomes the listened to.
01:15:58
Zenka Caro: Okay, okay, now I understand.
01:15:59
Michael Shaun Conaway: We give them. It's not very long. We're going to give them half an. Hour to do it. So the questions can't be really, really long. Open ended questions. They have to be questions that can be answered pretty quickly. And then, and then that, those that just gets them too. The absolute most important thing that happens. There is if somebody listens to them.
01:16:20
Zenka Caro: Right.
01:16:20
Michael Shaun Conaway: That's the foundation. So many of these things are about the, the alpha males.
01:16:27
Zenka Caro: Yep. I've done this before. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:16:30
Michael Shaun Conaway: And then, and then from then they have the familiarity of the, of the domains. You're going to be dealing with the rest of the conversation. And the questions just create a context more anything else. They create a context for exploration and. Then you empower them to explore. And then I would hope, and I. Don't know that it's the case. I would hope that our facilitators can join as well. I really hope that, that we all have a chance to interview somebody and be interviewed in the same, in the same time. And we sit down at tables as well. I usually when I'm leading these things,. There's 70, 80 people in the room and it's me and another facilitator and we're not joining in, we're kind of drifting around Listening to conversations, making sure people don't get stuck. But maybe our groups will be so. Small that, that we can literally just sit down and, and work alongside of them. And I think that's a beautiful gesture that we're doing this together.
01:17:26
Zenka Caro: Okay, sorry I'm interrupting you because my kids. I got to get my kids ready to go to school. So. So basically, so you're saying that I'll come up with three or four main questions that will open up and expand their mind along this seat studio. Then everyone is in partners. And then they swap interview. And then. And then what's the next step after that?
01:17:49
Michael Shaun Conaway: So then we say, hey, well, first thing I want you to do is we're going to get a tables of six. So you and your partner go find two other sets of partners. There may be, you know, if there's. If we're on average the same number of people, it'll be. There'll be two or three tables.
01:18:04
Zenka Caro: Yeah.
01:18:04
Michael Shaun Conaway: And. And then sit down at the table. On the table, you'll notice there are these sticky notes, and they're like the ones you put up in the walls before, like the ones that are up there. And you're going to discuss 2A or 1A. And you're just going to discuss it. You're going to discuss it for. I think the whole round runs about 25 minutes. Spend about 25 minutes.
01:18:24
Zenka Caro: Where are we getting the 2A? Is that from the board?
01:18:27
Michael Shaun Conaway: That's from your interview. That's your interview. So each, each question usually should. Should have like, ABC part. The first A is kind of like the throwaway answer. What does the world need? And you say a couple things of. The things the world needs. What are the things that can happen. At the grassroots level? Now it gets more Susan Then the last one is, what are the things that you see that you could take action on in your world to make a difference in? And then when we unpack, we use the impact. What's the most. One that has the most granularity to it? We use the other questions to get. People into the conversation. And so, you know, one, we're going. To unpack one C. You know, what's the thing that you see that could be done about this thing? And then they all start, they all. Start sharing the ideas and the, the thing that happens. And you don't even have to tell people. Just respond like, and talk amongst yourself. And if something really feels resonant with all six of you, make a note. Write a note card down. Write down a title and write Everything. You, you, you're thinking about that idea,. Write it down, get it on the. Wall and then move on to another idea. And your, your, your, your aim is. To get as many ideas that you feel strongly passionate about that they have juice. Write as many of those as you can. Don't be editorializing and deciding which one's better, which. Just try to write as many ideas and get as many ideas to the. Wall in your 25 minutes. You can. We're going to do that three to four rounds depending on our time. Do that three to four times. And then in between rounds when people are moving around, we'll, we'll kind of, kind of start to notice patterns. We'll start to move things on the. Wall and, and group them. That's the argument for you not being. At a table so you can actually receive the, the things and put them on the wall and grouping in the beginning. We'll, I'll think about that a little bit more. I just, I. Obviously we don't have two days to do this. We've got one day to do this. So there are some things that we'll need to be expedient about. We'll do that four times and then after three or four times and at. The end then we'll work together as the whole group to first of all. Just make sure things are pulled into. Themes or ideas that hang together. And then the next thing you do is you ask Your group of 18, 14 people, well, of the things that. Are up on the wall of these. Themes, which are the ones that you. Would be most likely to spend time working on. And we call that heat mapping. Sometimes we do it zenka with little dots. We get these little sticky dots and everybody gets three dots. And then you put your dots where you want to. That means if there's one thing that you really want to move forward on, you could put all three of your. Dots fun where you can put one. Down here, one dot there and one dot there. And so it just helps us to eat heat map. And then it's not a matter of, it's not a matter of popularity. It's not a matter of which idea is the best idea the most effective. It's just this is where the heat. Is, this is where the, the, the energy's at. So we're going to take these three,. That's where the most energy is and we're going to focus on them. And then the last bit is trying to, to create a future statement about. Each one the way it looks in. The future after the wave we went and created gender equality in Kashkais, you know, like, or we created, you know, whatever it is. And, and then, then that, that statement has like a. A little bit of a description if. People want to create that. And then the next items. What are the three or four things. We're going to do in the next two or three weeks? What are the first steps that we. Take so that every one of these. Has a Holon and, and appointments? We want them all to have like a feeling like, oh, we're meeting next Monday about this thing, and then the. Wednesday after that we're meeting. And these are the things that we've got to accomplish by those dates. This is really easy to do inside of businesses because they're used to operationalizing all kinds of things. This might be the thing that we. Really have to support people in coming out of this. Did they take the actions they said they were going to take? Some groups are. Are not. Some groups are going to do that and more. So I think there's going to be something for learn. And I've talked to Susan about that. Like, how are we going to mentor these Holons coming out of this event? And the answer is, okay, this is. This is going to require our presence to do this. But hopefully it also, it also creates a whole generation of Holons that know how to do this. Okay.
01:22:36
Zenka Caro: Okay. So thank you so much. So, and if you think of, if, if you think of any of those starter interview questions that come up for you while you're messing with this, let me know and I'll.
01:22:51
Michael Shaun Conaway: I've got to do them for the, for the conscious business thing. Yeah, the Conscious collab. Collaborative collaborative commerce group. I've got to get them to there, so. And I'm guessing that David Sloan Wilson's. Not going to help me with that.
01:23:06
Zenka Caro: So you're thinking like four. Come up with four plus sub things or about that. Okay. All right, I will noodle on it too. Thank you so much.
01:23:16
Michael Shaun Conaway: Yeah, And I think we should do maybe, maybe a week before the wave. We can do another meeting like this. And go over our questions together, our interview, or maybe share our interviews. Maybe we even put together a hole on for this, that where we can communicate together. Okay, cool.
01:23:34
Zenka Caro: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's great.
01:23:36
Shamini Jain: Okay, cool.
01:23:36
Zenka Caro: Amazing, Amazing. Thank you so much.
01:23:41
Michael Shaun Conaway: Take your kids to school. Don't let them be late on my behalf.
01:23:45
Zenka Caro: Okay, bye.
01:23:48
Michael Shaun Conaway: Lots of love. Ciao.
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