




The team reviewed substantial progress toward a fully functioning beta of the Holomovement app, with most features from prior discussions now implemented. James confirmed that roughly 90% of remaining beta work centers on the matching system, with membership subscriptions and various refinements rounding out the final 10%. The team set a target of turning the core team loose on the app next week (04:22), with the Wave event serving as the major activation moment for bringing new users into the ecosystem.
The Holon wall is now live (03:16), enabling public-facing updates from Holon owners while restricting posting to members only. Michael Shaun framed this clearly: the wall is "how you update the world on the progress of your Holon" (07:00). Image posting on the wall is still coming, and the same underlying functionality will power group chat as a member-private counterpart to the public wall.
A significant map revamp now supports both public and private views, with linkable, smaller map cards that properly separate when points cluster closely together. The directory UI was updated to surface more imagery, with hover interactions revealing additional details.
The assessments index now shows "view results" for completed assessments, with a results preview being added. The results page itself was condensed vertically — smaller triangle, relocated text, and smaller domain icons that align better with the top navigation.
[technology="Assessment Systems"]
The sign-up page now includes terms of service, privacy policy, age verification (18+), and an optional newsletter opt-in for the broader Holomovement list. James recommended having a lawyer review the legal copy, noting that cross-checking AI outputs (Claude [tag="claude"] vs. others) via tools like Abacus can provide a useful "quorum" sanity check. Page protection was updated so unauthenticated users can no longer glitch into restricted pages like assessments.
The Join Holon button is now functional, with pending invitations surfacing in a notification area for approval. Iván is actively building the pay-what-you-want subscription model and integrating it into the sign-up flow, targeted for completion this week.
[technology="Custom Membership System"]
James, working with Shaun and Iván, outlined a multi-stage matching approach living on a dedicated connection page (09:40):
The team explored how to frame match types. Default behavior will show most similar, with a toggle for most complementary (e.g., pairing a visionary with someone more grounded). Michael Shaun pushed the conversation toward a third lens: matches that move users toward integration — people whose domains pull you upward on the integrated axis rather than simply across it (13:04). The team agreed to ship the similar/complementary toggle first and observe user behavior over the next three to six months to refine what's genuinely useful.
Michael Shaun emphasized building in lightweight user feedback mechanisms so the matching AI can learn what constitutes a good match over time (14:53).
[technology="Intelligent Matching Algorithms"]
With matching and membership targeted for completion this week, the team plans to open the app to the core team next week. Hera will run a test pass on assessments before messaging the team to begin onboarding. James noted that prototyping matching will work much better with more completed assessments — currently only about five exist in the system.
Micro-grant applications will stay on the current Google Form for now, with direct email outreach to a few Holons. A fuller Holon application announcement is planned for June, timed to the Wave activation.
Mariko raised the key question of what experience paid ticket holders should have when entering the broadcast. Ideas under consideration:
Rather than reinvent broadcast chat and profile functionality, James suggested exploring what Hubcast already provides. In an ideal world, all broadcast viewers would create profiles in the Holomovement app, view the broadcast inside the ecosystem, and see who else is watching in real time. Mariko will set up a meeting with Peter and the broadcast stakeholders to align on technical integration and paywall strategy.
[technology="Video Conferencing Solutions"]
The team agreed to produce short 30–60 second onboarding videos — screen-share walkthroughs showing how to use the app, get matched, and engage during event breaks. These will be stitched into the broadcast and used in marketing emails. Hera emphasized creating a beautiful marketing email that mirrors the quality of the Wave website to convert readers into ticket buyers before rolling out more affiliate codes.
James proposed that Wave speakers create profiles in the app ahead of the event (38:54). This unlocks a powerful feature: participants could be matched to sessions that align with their profile, solving the long-standing question of how attendees discover which talks to attend. Hera will coordinate speaker onboarding roughly two weeks before the event, once the platform has been final-swept and is ready for the anticipated influx.
Full speaker bios and photos will live in Skid rather than the Wave website. The website will feature only headliner photos to preserve mobile usability.
Priority logos for the Wave site:
These three should anchor the top rows, with remaining sponsor logos from the existing About page arranged below. James will restructure the layout accordingly.
The app still needs a name. James half-jokingly proposed "Jeff" — "Just Effing Fantastic" — as a placeholder (22:15). The team agreed a real name must be finalized before speaker and participant onboarding begins, otherwise messaging will default to "check Jeff for your session matches."
James Redenbaugh
Mariko Pitts
Hera Rose
Michael Shaun Conaway
The team reviewed substantial progress toward a fully functioning beta of the Holomovement app, with most features from prior discussions now implemented. James confirmed that roughly 90% of remaining beta work centers on the matching system, with membership subscriptions and various refinements rounding out the final 10%. The team set a target of turning the core team loose on the app next week (04:22), with the Wave event serving as the major activation moment for bringing new users into the ecosystem.
The Holon wall is now live (03:16), enabling public-facing updates from Holon owners while restricting posting to members only. Michael Shaun framed this clearly: the wall is "how you update the world on the progress of your Holon" (07:00). Image posting on the wall is still coming, and the same underlying functionality will power group chat as a member-private counterpart to the public wall.
A significant map revamp now supports both public and private views, with linkable, smaller map cards that properly separate when points cluster closely together. The directory UI was updated to surface more imagery, with hover interactions revealing additional details.
The assessments index now shows "view results" for completed assessments, with a results preview being added. The results page itself was condensed vertically — smaller triangle, relocated text, and smaller domain icons that align better with the top navigation.
[technology="Assessment Systems"]
The sign-up page now includes terms of service, privacy policy, age verification (18+), and an optional newsletter opt-in for the broader Holomovement list. James recommended having a lawyer review the legal copy, noting that cross-checking AI outputs (Claude [tag="claude"] vs. others) via tools like Abacus can provide a useful "quorum" sanity check. Page protection was updated so unauthenticated users can no longer glitch into restricted pages like assessments.
The Join Holon button is now functional, with pending invitations surfacing in a notification area for approval. Iván is actively building the pay-what-you-want subscription model and integrating it into the sign-up flow, targeted for completion this week.
[technology="Custom Membership System"]
James, working with Shaun and Iván, outlined a multi-stage matching approach living on a dedicated connection page (09:40):
The team explored how to frame match types. Default behavior will show most similar, with a toggle for most complementary (e.g., pairing a visionary with someone more grounded). Michael Shaun pushed the conversation toward a third lens: matches that move users toward integration — people whose domains pull you upward on the integrated axis rather than simply across it (13:04). The team agreed to ship the similar/complementary toggle first and observe user behavior over the next three to six months to refine what's genuinely useful.
Michael Shaun emphasized building in lightweight user feedback mechanisms so the matching AI can learn what constitutes a good match over time (14:53).
[technology="Intelligent Matching Algorithms"]
With matching and membership targeted for completion this week, the team plans to open the app to the core team next week. Hera will run a test pass on assessments before messaging the team to begin onboarding. James noted that prototyping matching will work much better with more completed assessments — currently only about five exist in the system.
Micro-grant applications will stay on the current Google Form for now, with direct email outreach to a few Holons. A fuller Holon application announcement is planned for June, timed to the Wave activation.
Mariko raised the key question of what experience paid ticket holders should have when entering the broadcast. Ideas under consideration:
Rather than reinvent broadcast chat and profile functionality, James suggested exploring what Hubcast already provides. In an ideal world, all broadcast viewers would create profiles in the Holomovement app, view the broadcast inside the ecosystem, and see who else is watching in real time. Mariko will set up a meeting with Peter and the broadcast stakeholders to align on technical integration and paywall strategy.
[technology="Video Conferencing Solutions"]
The team agreed to produce short 30–60 second onboarding videos — screen-share walkthroughs showing how to use the app, get matched, and engage during event breaks. These will be stitched into the broadcast and used in marketing emails. Hera emphasized creating a beautiful marketing email that mirrors the quality of the Wave website to convert readers into ticket buyers before rolling out more affiliate codes.
James proposed that Wave speakers create profiles in the app ahead of the event (38:54). This unlocks a powerful feature: participants could be matched to sessions that align with their profile, solving the long-standing question of how attendees discover which talks to attend. Hera will coordinate speaker onboarding roughly two weeks before the event, once the platform has been final-swept and is ready for the anticipated influx.
Full speaker bios and photos will live in Skid rather than the Wave website. The website will feature only headliner photos to preserve mobile usability.
Priority logos for the Wave site:
These three should anchor the top rows, with remaining sponsor logos from the existing About page arranged below. James will restructure the layout accordingly.
The app still needs a name. James half-jokingly proposed "Jeff" — "Just Effing Fantastic" — as a placeholder (22:15). The team agreed a real name must be finalized before speaker and participant onboarding begins, otherwise messaging will default to "check Jeff for your session matches."
James Redenbaugh
Mariko Pitts
Hera Rose
Michael Shaun Conaway
00:00:01
Michael Shaun Conaway: Just hanging out in the jungle.
00:00:02
Mariko Pitts: I can tell. Where are you at in Colombia? You're in. Are you still over in the. This.
00:00:10
Michael Shaun Conaway: I'm in. I'm on the Caribbean side, so Santa Marta is the nearest airport.
00:00:16
Mariko Pitts: Go up to Minka. I've got my. Some of my best friends up. Have a lot of land up there.
00:00:20
Michael Shaun Conaway: It's an amazing place.
00:00:22
Mariko Pitts: One of my favorite places in the world. I consider moving to Minka, actually.
00:00:25
Michael Shaun Conaway: Oh, yeah. So we're in Las Naranjos, which is a tiny little spot, and it's where one of the major rivers that comes down from the Sierra Nevada hits the ocean.
00:00:35
Mariko Pitts: So how. How long was the hike and bus ride to get there?
00:00:38
Michael Shaun Conaway: It wasn't too bad. It was an hour and 20 minutes.
00:00:41
Mariko Pitts: Okay. You're not too far deep in there. Okay. Is Alex also there?
00:00:44
Hera: Michael?
00:00:44
Michael Shaun Conaway: Sean. No, no, no.
00:00:46
Mariko Pitts: She's been. She's been up all night texting me while. Michael.
00:00:50
Hera: I. I was just in a call with Alex. She just let me go because she knows I have a call with. With you guys.
00:00:58
Mariko Pitts: Oh, my God. That's hilarious. That's so fun. Okay, wait.
00:01:03
Michael Shaun Conaway: James just woke up.
00:01:05
Hera: Oh, my God. I am going.
00:01:07
Mariko Pitts: What is going on here? What's the hat thing? Is this.
00:01:11
Hera: I am. I'm gonna turn off my.
00:01:13
Mariko Pitts: James, we can't hear you. Oh, my God.
00:01:17
Hera: Are you in a. Oh, man.
00:01:19
Michael Shaun Conaway: Just. I'm hot right now. Looking you at that. That outfit makes my blood boil. I'm like, oh, my God, I'm gonna die. It's so humid here.
00:01:30
Mariko Pitts: It's like, that's.
00:01:32
Hera: Oh, my God. I'm gonna turn off my camera for now because I have a. My back hurts. I'm currently in bed.
00:01:42
Mariko Pitts: Girl.
00:01:43
Hera: I'm literally, like, so comfortable right now. I'm lying on my bed, and then my. My laptop is in my lap.
00:01:49
Mariko Pitts: Oh, my God.
00:01:50
Hera: Like, why am I even. My laptop is in my lap. What the. But anyway, like, you just imagine me. I'm, like, so comfortable right now.
00:01:59
Michael Shaun Conaway: I would. I would rather imagine you just resting without the laptop, though.
00:02:02
Mariko Pitts: Yeah, I don't think. Yeah, I don'. Think that's the thing, James.
00:02:05
Hera: Oh, my God, Mike.
00:02:06
Mariko Pitts: Together, we cannot hear you, and we want to talk. Okay. And we can't have you respond.
00:02:12
Michael Shaun Conaway: Yeah, our. Our tech person is not supposed to have tech problems. I promise you.
00:02:18
Mariko Pitts: Together, man.
00:02:20
James Redenbaugh: Here we go. Oh, I kept changing the speaker instead of the microphone.
00:02:26
Mariko Pitts: Clearly. You haven't taken a shower and gone to bed, have you? Oh, my God.
00:02:32
James Redenbaugh: Too much.
00:02:33
Mariko Pitts: One of those days. I love it. I love It.
00:02:38
Hera: Oh my God.
00:02:39
Michael Shaun Conaway: Okay, guys, I'm. I'm on unlimited time. I just, I'm just curious to get an update is where we are.
00:02:44
Mariko Pitts: Why don't we get you an update then so you can pop off and then we'll dive into more stuff, I guess.
00:02:48
James Redenbaugh: Yeah.
00:02:48
Michael Shaun Conaway: Then I can go from technology to illumination. It's.
00:02:51
Mariko Pitts: Right.
00:02:52
Michael Shaun Conaway: I kind of. I kind of know which one's a more. A more fun conversation. But let's go on this one while we're at it.
00:03:01
James Redenbaugh: Yes, Michael, Sean, I promised you a project plan, but I kept wanting to just do the things and always. But now I have a project plan and I've done a ton of things, so I think you'll be happy.
00:03:16
Hera: I love it.
00:03:19
James Redenbaugh: So update. Pretty much everything that we talked about on the last call has been done. We have a bunch of little fixes and tweaks and requests and then bigger things like the hole on wall is working. Now. We don't have a way to post images on the wall yet, but that's coming soon, so that's very cool. I did a big map revamp so now there's a public and private view of that. The map cards are working well. The points will separate so we can see all the points even if they're close together.
00:03:59
Mariko Pitts: Yay. It's fantastic.
00:04:01
James Redenbaugh: Yeah, the cards are linkable and they're smaller, so that's working really well. Let's see. Updated the UI and the directory so that the more images visible and then when you hover over the pictures, the. The other stuff comes up. Fantastic. And membership. Membership. Avon is working on the pay what you want subscriptions and working on putting that into the sign up flow. But that's not live yet. But he's hard at work on that. Updated the assessments. So now on the assessments index, if you've done the assessment, it says view results and I'm working on having the results preview there as well. And then I updated the results page to take up a lot less space vertically so the triangle's smaller. The text is over here. And I also made these smaller so they're easier to see and makes more sense with the top icons.
00:05:28
Mariko Pitts: Yeah, at first glance, it feels good to me when I'm looking at it. Like the text, the way it's set up, it's good. Feels good to me at least.
00:05:38
James Redenbaugh: Great. The join holon button works now.
00:05:44
Mariko Pitts: Oh yay. Now we can get Michael Sean finally.
00:05:47
Michael Shaun Conaway: Back into the hole. I was gonna boycott you guys if I couldn't be allowed in the holon.
00:05:53
Hera: Oh, My God. No, I wouldn't want.
00:05:54
Michael Shaun Conaway: Or I'm gonna start. I'm gonna start my own technology hall.
00:05:59
James Redenbaugh: Not invite us.
00:06:00
Mariko Pitts: I want to invite. Wait, I want to invite everybody.
00:06:05
Michael Shaun Conaway: Come on, Dubai.
00:06:06
James Redenbaugh: All right, so now if there's a pending invitation, it will show here and you'll get a little notification up here as well. And then when you edit it, you can approve it. And it's pretty simple. Ui, we can improve upon it and made a few other tweaks to this page. Like the domains are much smaller now, things like that.
00:06:34
Mariko Pitts: Okay, I see the wall. Cool. Okay.
00:06:36
James Redenbaugh: Yeah, the wall's working. I'm just posting myself here. Let's see if we can see the sign up.
00:06:46
Mariko Pitts: Oh, for the wall. If anyone comes to our hole on do they get to see what's on our wall or.
00:06:52
James Redenbaugh: No, they see but they can't post.
00:06:55
Mariko Pitts: Oh, okay. So. Right, so people need to know it's transparent then whatever they're.
00:07:00
Michael Shaun Conaway: Yeah, yeah, I think we let people know it's how you update the world on the progress of your Holon.
00:07:05
Mariko Pitts: Okay, yeah. And so we probably need to put that in the description under the wall too. It's like, you know, public updates. Yeah, yeah, okay.
00:07:12
James Redenbaugh: Yeah, yeah.
00:07:13
Michael Shaun Conaway: And then we. You can have a. We can have group chats. James, we have that feature. Has that been made possible yet?
00:07:19
James Redenbaugh: Well, now that we have this wall on Holon, we can use the same functionality for group chat, other things.
00:07:27
Mariko Pitts: That's fantastic. Great.
00:07:28
Michael Shaun Conaway: Yeah, that's. That way we get the private. Is the group chat and then the public as well.
00:07:35
James Redenbaugh: Great, Cool. And the UI is pretty simple here. I'm going to update it a little bit, but it's working.
00:07:45
Mariko Pitts: Right.
00:07:45
James Redenbaugh: And then on the signup page, I've updated this. I've added terms of service and a privacy policy.
00:07:55
Mariko Pitts: Oh, great.
00:07:55
James Redenbaugh: I'll look at that then. Yeah, you guys should review that and probably have a lawyer look at it.
00:08:02
Michael Shaun Conaway: Because at least chat GPT.
00:08:04
James Redenbaugh: Yeah, yeah, I think Claude's a little better, but.
00:08:07
Michael Shaun Conaway: Yeah, well, you just get. You just get each one of them to look at each other's work. Yeah, yeah. Comment this place called Abacus. And that's what you can do. You can ask a question of one and then ask the same question of another one. Ask the same question, another one. So you can kind of try and get. I bet the answer is it's like, who do you trust? Well, I trust a quorum.
00:08:32
James Redenbaugh: Nice. And I think that we should have people just confirm that they're 18 or older. Makes. Makes things easier. And I Added a simple newsletter sign up here as well where people should know that they'll receive, you know, maybe notification emails about the app. But if they also want to be added to the Hollow Movement newsletter, they can do so there. Let's see what else should we do? Some page protection updates and then. The.
00:09:26
Mariko Pitts: Oh, did you. When you're on this sign up form so you can't access the My Home Loans or any of those other pages.
00:09:34
Hera: Right.
00:09:35
Mariko Pitts: Is that cut off until you log in?
00:09:38
James Redenbaugh: Yes.
00:09:39
Mariko Pitts: Okay. Because that was the issue. Right. We were trying to log in, you were logged out and then apparently you could click on assessments and it would kind of go to it and then kick you right back to the. It was like a weird glitch.
00:09:56
James Redenbaugh: So those are all the little things. And then the big thing we've been working on is matching which will be on its own page and it has this multi stage approach. Where's the connection page? So I've been meeting with Sean and Yvonne about how to achieve this and I think we have an awesome plan that will work really well for two stage plan. And I have this. Articulation of it that I'm trying to get to show up but I'm getting a 404 right now. But basically I'm thinking that. So for the first layer is this field where you can see your alignment score with any other user on the platform. And we were talking about generating those based on tags and domains and seeking and offering which is possible. But I think that. For phase one we should start with just using the connection assessment to generate those scores because that's a lot more straightforward. And if people want to see their connections we have them fill out the connection assessment and then this map will align them based on just proximity and then the similarity of their scores. And then we can do deeper agentic scoring and analysis using all of the profile data.
00:12:08
Michael Shaun Conaway: Great. So I answer and then what are the best matches most aligned with me or most complementary? What are we featuring?
00:12:22
James Redenbaugh: Let's look at the results because we could also toggle like who's most of.
00:12:31
Michael Shaun Conaway: Our lines was complimentary.
00:12:33
James Redenbaugh: Yeah.
00:12:35
Michael Shaun Conaway: So that we'll put a visionary person with a. I can't remember what the other side is.
00:12:41
James Redenbaugh: Grounded.
00:12:44
Michael Shaun Conaway: Yeah, something like that. I can't even remember. Because obviously we might want to do some matching like that. Not true. I do have a. I do have a producer with me everywhere I go though.
00:13:04
Mariko Pitts: That'll decide. It's somewhere in him. It's somewhere in him.
00:13:09
Michael Shaun Conaway: I do budgets really well and planning really well. I Do budgets really well because I care about money. Yeah.
00:13:15
Mariko Pitts: That's the reason why. Go ahead, James.
00:13:21
James Redenbaugh: Yeah, I think by default we should just do most similar and then we could have a toggle for most complementary and grounded could be complementary of visionary.
00:13:33
Michael Shaun Conaway: Yeah.
00:13:33
James Redenbaugh: And I think.
00:13:36
Michael Shaun Conaway: Well, and then I think there's a. It's still three, three dimensional. Right. Because it could be if I'm radically visionary, I might want to be tied with. With people that are more probably not radically the other way because it might. Might not be a good fit but somebody at least is on the other side and then obviously any, any anybody that helps us move towards integral is probably a good idea as well. So I guess that's the reason. Maybe, maybe actually when you shouldn't even say compensatory way, maybe we should just say integral. Like what helps me become more integrated and like what's the. The matches that bring me more towards an integral view.
00:14:16
James Redenbaugh: Yeah. The people that have more integrated domains. So mine, my embeddedness is more in visionary or my ecological identity. So a complementary domain might be somebody who's more integrated in ecological identity or.
00:14:43
Michael Shaun Conaway: Integrated plus grounded like under the grounded side of integrated. Right.
00:14:47
James Redenbaugh: Yeah.
00:14:48
Michael Shaun Conaway: So it provides, it provides more balance.
00:14:51
James Redenbaugh: Yeah.
00:14:53
Michael Shaun Conaway: So it's almost like looking across but up and across on, on a number of the issues. I guess. You know, I guess it's. You know we've got so many of them. We can look at the aggregate score to surgery. I think that's a, that's a probably a sweet spot for AI though to chart to, to make some comparisons and if, if we especially if we can James, is for now have some way to educate the AI about what is what constituted a good match? You know, did. Does the user find that person a good match for. For whatever reason and give us a little bit of feedback would be. Would be helpful, huh?
00:15:34
James Redenbaugh: Yeah. Yep. I think if we have you know, basically just the center point as a mirror then some. Then the point that is opposite that point would be the complement. So here I'm a little above center on integrative but leaning visionary and a compliment might be here. Or, but then if all my things in the center then there's the complement would be in the center.
00:16:14
Michael Shaun Conaway: Yeah. Well it could be higher more integrated like higher on the integrated. From there you could be going up. Yeah. I wonder that's. I wonder if it's. I mean is somebody that I'm a good match with somebody I would match the other direction or am I always trying to just bring people up so everybody's Going to have a collection of people that are moving them in the integral way. I don't know if that's a proper answer or not because it means that people that are more integral will have a lot of people trying to connect with them. But maybe that's not a bad idea. I don't know. Something for us to just watch and notice and then in the next three to six months, really just try to determine what people like better, what's more useful for them.
00:16:58
Mariko Pitts: True.
00:16:59
James Redenbaugh: I like that. Cool.
00:17:04
Mariko Pitts: Great work so far. Jinx.
00:17:05
Michael Shaun Conaway: Yeah. Yeah. So super great to see you plow through a bunch of this stuff. And I mean, like, how far are we away from like a fully functioning beta?
00:17:23
James Redenbaugh: I think. Well, is the. Is the matching a part of the fully functioning beta?
00:17:32
Mariko Pitts: Yes.
00:17:33
Michael Shaun Conaway: Yeah, I think so.
00:17:35
James Redenbaugh: Then I think 90% of what's left to do is in there and the 10% is other little refined and cleanup. Yeah.
00:17:49
Mariko Pitts: So just a subscription model piece mainly.
00:17:54
James Redenbaugh: Oh, yeah. We also need to decide on that.
00:18:01
Mariko Pitts: Yeah.
00:18:03
James Redenbaugh: But we could definitely get the. The matching as we're talking about it working this week and we can get the membership sign up integrated this week.
00:18:17
Michael Shaun Conaway: So maybe next week we could turn at least the core team loose on everything.
00:18:22
James Redenbaugh: Right?
00:18:22
Mariko Pitts: Yeah.
00:18:25
James Redenbaugh: Yeah. I mean, I think we can let the core team continue now.
00:18:30
Michael Shaun Conaway: They're not really doing. We haven't let them do anything other than just set up a.
00:18:34
Mariko Pitts: We can get them on. We can do the assessments and stuff now, too, because he's got that results there.
00:18:41
Hera: Assessments and.
00:18:41
Michael Shaun Conaway: Hold on. Yeah.
00:18:43
Mariko Pitts: Yeah. Okay.
00:18:45
Hera: Yeah, that's holo test number two.
00:18:48
Mariko Pitts: Yeah. Harry, if you can just do a. Run a test on your end and just make sure we're good to go and then.
00:18:54
Hera: Okay, okay.
00:18:55
Mariko Pitts: We can get a message out to them to get them going on the assessments and stuff.
00:19:00
Michael Shaun Conaway: I know not everybody's even signed up yet because I think it's been a little bit.
00:19:04
Mariko Pitts: Yeah.
00:19:06
Michael Shaun Conaway: We've not been a full energetic. Yes. To jumping into. So we got it as soon as.
00:19:11
Mariko Pitts: We're ready to leave, I think for people. Yeah.
00:19:14
Michael Shaun Conaway: So sorry.
00:19:15
James Redenbaugh: Yeah.
00:19:16
Michael Shaun Conaway: So hopefully we'll be in that. That feeling this week. That'd be great.
00:19:21
James Redenbaugh: Cool.
00:19:21
Michael Shaun Conaway: Yeah.
00:19:21
James Redenbaugh: Because it'll be easier to. To be prototyping the matching with more assessments filled out. Yeah, absolutely. Right. Right now we have like five.
00:19:38
Michael Shaun Conaway: We'll just let them know it's going to be really hard to be matched with any more than a few of us. Yeah.
00:19:44
Mariko Pitts: But I think the team will be excited about doing an assessment. They like that. So that. Okay, cool. All right, so what's. Okay, so let's go back at that again. How the question. Let's just go back to the question of how soon we could have the full beta running now with bringing back up engine for good pieces. What is our.
00:20:11
Michael Shaun Conaway: Is the. Has the. As the application. I mean we've sent the application out here. That's. That's the. The Google form version of the application for. For micro grants.
00:20:21
Mariko Pitts: Micro grants, yeah. Application. Yeah, that's a form.
00:20:24
Michael Shaun Conaway: But okay, so we'll just leave that off of the list.
00:20:27
Mariko Pitts: Yeah, let's leave that off for now. I think we're going to go about just going direct to a few colons to have them apply email.
00:20:32
Michael Shaun Conaway: Yeah, perfect.
00:20:34
Mariko Pitts: And then we'll. And then in June we'll. We'll actually do a full announcement of hold ons coming in application process for whatever that next. Once we set up the rounds for what that looks like for the year, we'll do that so we don't have to worry about that right now.
00:20:46
Michael Shaun Conaway: Perfect, perfect, perfect.
00:20:49
Mariko Pitts: We'll just use the activation day and the wave to move people into whole loans anyway naturally into forming.
00:20:56
Michael Shaun Conaway: Yeah, yeah. And hopefully just you know like we'll.
00:20:59
James Redenbaugh: We'll.
00:21:00
Michael Shaun Conaway: In the next couple of weeks. Marco, we should really talk about how we in little micro bits, you know, 60, 90 seconds continued to surface the app in front of everybody in the room.
00:21:10
Mariko Pitts: Exactly.
00:21:11
Michael Shaun Conaway: Get get things so we can share it on the screens and say you just do this and then you do this and it's super easy. You should be in the break. Next break you should. You should get on the app and see who you get matched with that. That kind of stuff. We should just make a little.
00:21:22
Mariko Pitts: We probably need some videos. It'd be good.
00:21:25
Hera: We need to create some videos like onboarding videos.
00:21:28
Mariko Pitts: Yeah. Even if it's screen share stuff that just. I need some videos that we can pop in and make a nice little 30 second pieces that can go in the broadcast too.
00:21:36
Michael Shaun Conaway: Yeah, absolutely.
00:21:37
Mariko Pitts: We need to stitch stuff in. Yeah, let's think about that. James. Like we just need clips and I can have. I got plenty of video people that can put something together for us.
00:21:46
Michael Shaun Conaway: Yeah, a little bit of like the wave is. Is where we connect the app. Unnamed app is what is. Is how we connect.
00:21:54
Mariko Pitts: Yeah, it's how we connect.
00:21:57
James Redenbaugh: What are we gonna call it?
00:21:58
Mariko Pitts: It's like where the magic stays. Something like that.
00:22:00
Hera: Oh name. What are we gonna call it?
00:22:05
Michael Shaun Conaway: Yeah, that's what you said last week. Yeah, I know.
00:22:08
Mariko Pitts: I was still thinking about it. Okay.
00:22:09
Michael Shaun Conaway: It'll Appear. It'll appear.
00:22:10
James Redenbaugh: Well, I say Jeff. Let's call it.
00:22:14
Michael Shaun Conaway: Just name it Jeff.
00:22:15
Hera: Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
00:22:18
Michael Shaun Conaway: As long as it's not Jethro.
00:22:19
Hera: We need to change his calendar. Invite to hall of Movement. Jeff meeting.
00:22:25
Michael Shaun Conaway: Jeff meeting.
00:22:28
Mariko Pitts: All right, I'm. I'm really gonna have to think about this now. Jeff is the best we can do.
00:22:31
Michael Shaun Conaway: Yeah, like, no, actually that's. That's exactly the shove we need, James. That just. That just made it shot.
00:22:38
Mariko Pitts: And then. Yeah, okay.
00:22:39
James Redenbaugh: It's an acronym for just effing Fantastic.
00:22:44
Michael Shaun Conaway: Oh, my God, you're so funny.
00:22:48
Mariko Pitts: Oh, my God.
00:22:49
Michael Shaun Conaway: Oh, goodness. Nerd humor.
00:22:54
Hera: Oh, my God.
00:22:56
Michael Shaun Conaway: Danger. Danger. They have good coffee in Colombia, by the way. If you've not ever had Colombian coffee in Colombia.
00:23:02
James Redenbaugh: Oh, I'm so jealous.
00:23:04
Mariko Pitts: I love good Colombian coffee.
00:23:10
Michael Shaun Conaway: Okay, I'm gonna. I'm gonna hop off. I think. I think I got all my. My answers. Questions answered and I feel deeply satisfied. I'm really excited to take a look at things. Probably Thursday for me before I really jump in deep, but good.
00:23:22
Mariko Pitts: Yeah. And then heron, I will play with it some more too. Great job on the Wave page, by the way, James. Like, from people everywhere, they're texting me.
00:23:34
Hera: Like, oh my God.
00:23:35
Mariko Pitts: Website is next level. Thank you. Oh my God. Like, oh my damn.
00:23:38
Hera: Oh my God.
00:23:40
James Redenbaugh: Awesome. Yeah, I've been sending it around and I got some people to send sign up and. Oh yeah, great. I got some friends coming.
00:23:47
Hera: I was, I was actually in a phone call with Alex just now because you know how like, Rachel wants like all these affiliate codes, but I was like, I. I feel strongly about giving affiliates code affiliate codes is one thing, but actually creating a wonderful email that we could send out that's actually going to convert readers into buyers of a wave ticket is something else. So like, in my mind, the image that I have in my mind is like, how do. Like is. It is like the. The Wave website turned into a beautiful marketing email.
00:24:23
Mariko Pitts: Oh, it's happening. You should see the video that I'm using with the new elements.
00:24:26
Hera: Oh my God.
00:24:27
Mariko Pitts: Headliner.
00:24:28
Hera: Yeah. Yeah, that would be amazing. Cuz like, Rachel is like, I'm creating all these codes and links and Rachel wants 30 more and I need to do that manually. I'm like, I want this. If I'm gonna spend time on this, let's make sure that we're doing the right thing, that it's gonna work, that it's gonna be sent to like millions of it will.
00:24:52
Mariko Pitts: People are already. They're fomo.
00:24:54
Michael Shaun Conaway: Yeah.
00:24:54
Hera: Crazy this is like the golden hour. This is like the best time to do something really, really fast.
00:25:01
Mariko Pitts: Yeah, we got plenty of good stuff coming out. Juicy Designs, videos, the global broadcast. That's fantastic. I love that, that the. The planet moving, you know, with the.
00:25:13
Hera: Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Don't get me. Oh, my God.
00:25:17
Michael Shaun Conaway: Go, guys.
00:25:18
Mariko Pitts: All right, we'll see.
00:25:20
Michael Shaun Conaway: We'll send you. We'll send you some illumination meditation for here for you guys, since you're probably not getting a lot of time to meditate.
00:25:26
James Redenbaugh: Yes. Needed.
00:25:29
Michael Shaun Conaway: Yeah, I'll give you extra. I'll double up for you, James.
00:25:32
James Redenbaugh: Yeah, thank you.
00:25:34
Michael Shaun Conaway: Okay, bye, guys. Lots of love.
00:25:36
Mariko Pitts: Bye. But yeah, James, fantastic stuff. It was like, it's really working well. And then I know that I did get the update that the metapixels is working. We're getting data in.
00:25:47
Hera: Oh, yeah, I saw that.
00:25:49
Mariko Pitts: So fantastic. Like, we're moving fast, so they're gonna start ads, so we should be seeing some ticket sales coming too. So just. Hara, on your end. I know I messaged you, but I haven't looked at my emails or your responses to the. What we're doing or the messaging that goes out after someone buys a ticket for the wave broadcast. We need to get that curated really well. But, James, that's the next thing we should probably talk about is like, what do we. What experience do we want them to have when they come in to watch the broadcast into our app, you know?
00:26:23
James Redenbaugh: Yeah.
00:26:24
Mariko Pitts: Because they're going to have access to everything that we're about to. Which we have, which is fantastic. It's just. They need to just watch it. Maybe there's. What chat functionality? What do we want to do? Is there like a wall that we want with each. The. Like, everyone can see, like a public wall that is like a live chat. Like how YouTube Live is like, you know, it's like you watch it and there's like boom, boom, boom, boom. And it might be good if there is like a. You know how YouTube does. You can send like a. What do you call it? Super, super something. And they send like four bucks or three bucks. They commit. And it's like a question or something that they really want, like, host to actually see.
00:27:08
Hera: If you.
00:27:09
Mariko Pitts: You remember that you've seen those in like YouTube lives and stuff.
00:27:12
James Redenbaugh: Yeah, super.
00:27:13
Mariko Pitts: It's a super something, super chat. A super chat. Super chats are really cool because you can just donate a dollar. You can donate a little bit more and that's in it. And it takes the question or whatever and it moves it into a Different section so that our host can actually see it and actually answer them. And I think that'd be cool because if there's a bunch of people watching it and they're just randomly talking about stuff and it's like, okay, you know, that's one thing. But if there's like a Super Chat functionality and to get your question seen, something that you really want to acknowledge or something, you can put that in, you can make a donation or something like that, you know, because I'm just trying to figure out a way for hosts who are live or we are in Portugal, let's say it's 6 o' clock for us in Portugal and then 9am Pacific. I want to be able to like in the super chats go into somewhere where we have questions there that the host can actually go through it, look through, answer some stuff, you know, things like that. So it feels like there's some communication happening on the ground, you know, as they're watching the broadcast and things like that. Or we can just share feedback, you know what I mean? Yeah, Super Chat is just like couple bucks, it doesn't matter. You can donate whatever you want. But I like that idea. And it, it's pretty common in YouTube for you.
00:28:36
James Redenbaugh: Yeah, yeah. Is Hubcast going to be doing the broadcast?
00:28:43
Mariko Pitts: The broadcast itself? Yeah, yeah, they're piping. Yeah, it's wherever we want it to go and then if we want it, YouTube and then we embed that. I don't know. What do you.
00:28:54
James Redenbaugh: It might be because I wonder what, like, what functionality they already have. Ideally, in a perfect world, we could make everybody wants to see the broadcast, create a profile in the app and view it in there and you know, and see other members and see who's watching right now and things like that. And we don't need to reinvent the wheel if hubcast already has like a live chat function built in or if we're broadcasting.
00:29:30
Mariko Pitts: We do have a whole media platform actually. Yeah, Creator hub. And so all the videos can live there. We want it behind a paywall and then there's all kinds of stuff. So. Okay, what I'll do, let me put a meeting together with all of us. Peter and you know Peter, right? Yeah, yeah. Okay, good. So why don't we do that and then we talk about the tech and integration piece for broadcast.
00:29:56
James Redenbaugh: Okay, great.
00:29:57
Mariko Pitts: Okay. See if I can get something for us this week. I'll give you some times.
00:30:06
James Redenbaugh: Cool.
00:30:08
Hera: Okay.
00:30:10
Mariko Pitts: I'll put us on the. I might just put us on a thread or add you actually, James, to Our global broadcast thread. Anyway, we could just talk through that because all of us are already on it, including Alex and Michael. Sean. So, okay, we'll do that and then we can figure out a time to. To meet or if anything, he might even just send you some stuff so you can see and get you in there already. You know, that way you have access to the back end of the hub and see how we could do it because I know he's giving us it for free for the hub as well, to create a profile and all that. Anyway, because it might be good to have it behind that paywall. Whether we sell the tickets is fine. We're selling the tickets to our ticket tailor. We take the cash, but then we can give them access and access code to actually watch it through the hubcast way too, if they want. And that might be interesting because he's. He's got access to millions of households through different networks and stuff that actually use that. So it could be cool to have him do some marketing and maybe even have sell tickets over there too. It's fine. It doesn't really matter to me. But we can have it in both places, you know, and eventually, no. No matter what, our little ad pieces that we create about the app, the ecosystem will be stitched into the broadcast and we should. That should help site move people over to our app in the first place. The ecosystem.
00:31:32
James Redenbaugh: Cool.
00:31:33
Mariko Pitts: So. All right, well, I'll put a meeting together on that. So that's the. That was. Let's see. I think that's about it for Wave. We're looking. Looking good. Oh, I need to get you the sponsor images logos. That's it. Definitely need to get the sponsors on there.
00:31:52
Michael Shaun Conaway: Sponsor logos.
00:31:53
Mariko Pitts: Oh, do you have from like the previous wave, like a screenshot? I know we have logos already. I'm just trying to figure out what we already have that I don't have to do a lot of more work and give you another logo that you already have. Just want to make sure we have a. I know we have a collection of logos already that you've even altered. I know you did like the foundation of the future one. You cleaned up a bit. I think you. I know you have Purpose Earth. Those two need to immediately go on.
00:32:22
James Redenbaugh: Yeah, there's a lot on the about page, I think.
00:32:25
Mariko Pitts: As I thought, we have a bunch.
00:32:28
James Redenbaugh: Huh.
00:32:31
Mariko Pitts: Actually, let me look at the about page. Maybe we move that over for now. And then I can tweak. Actually, you might want. Why don't we just bring over the about page logos in a cool Way. The ones that just need to be the biggest. I think we just need to alter it a little bit. The biggest ones are foundation for the Future, Purpose Earth and the Spiritual Life TV channel. And then I do have a couple more that I'll add that I'll send you. But I think it'd be fine if we add those two.
00:34:00
Hera: Oh, my God, I'm getting flashbacks.
00:34:04
Mariko Pitts: Yeah.
00:34:04
Hera: Of Asheville. Oh, my God.
00:34:07
Mariko Pitts: I can't believe it's been a year. Yeah. Foundation of the Future. Yeah, that's cool. Source of Synergy Foundation. We can. Yeah. Move that aside. Spiritual Life would be up there next to Purpose Earth.
00:34:27
James Redenbaugh: New stories?
00:34:30
Mariko Pitts: No. So I like the about page. The whole. The whole of them and about page one. Yeah, but I understand. I said what you're saying. But I don't want. Yeah, the bottom layer. I don't want those. I don't. You know, the music heart. We can get rid of that. But if you actually just bring in the other the about page logos and just make the. Do like you have foundation and feature bigger Purpose Earth and then Spiritual Life on the next row underneath. And then the rest can be underneath that. I don't care at that point.
00:35:07
James Redenbaugh: Okay.
00:35:08
Mariko Pitts: That's all that really matter. Those three are the big ones that need to be up there. Spiritual Life tv, Purpose Earth and Foundation of the Future. And then everybody else can be scattered like we have them below.
00:35:20
James Redenbaugh: Cool.
00:35:22
Mariko Pitts: And then I'll send you some more logos that can just go in there too. But they're the three big placements is just all that really matters.
00:35:30
James Redenbaugh: Cool. Where's the foundation for the Future? Why am I not seeing it?
00:35:35
Mariko Pitts: It's the first big one right there on top of the world. And the foundation,.
00:35:45
James Redenbaugh: Their logos, like off center.
00:35:49
Mariko Pitts: I'll let you work with that. Yeah, they do. They definitely. They need a new logo or they.
00:35:56
James Redenbaugh: Spiritual Life tv.
00:35:59
Mariko Pitts: Yeah, that one too, I think. Let me check. They might have sent some new ones. Hera, do you know if Olivia sent something new?
00:36:11
Hera: Which one? Which one? Sorry, tv.
00:36:15
Mariko Pitts: Olivia Hansen.
00:36:19
Hera: No, let me check again, but I don't remember anything. Okay, let me. Let me update you on that. What do we need to. Okay, I'm going to ask Message about.
00:36:39
Mariko Pitts: It new or updated? But it looks the same to me, so. Yeah, yeah, I'll send it. I'll send you a new one right now.
00:36:48
Hera: Okay.
00:36:48
Mariko Pitts: I'm just gonna put it in our WhatsApp.
00:36:55
James Redenbaugh: Okie dokie. Okay.
00:37:05
Mariko Pitts: All right. So I just threw it in there. Spiritual Life tv. It does look like it's a Light slightly altered than the one that's on the website currently. So let's use that. I put it in our hull Lemon app group. Oh, what's that?
00:37:19
James Redenbaugh: Yeah, perfect.
00:37:23
Mariko Pitts: Okay, cool. Yeah, other than that, I think we're solid. We'll look at. I'll look at the website, play with it myself. Her, you do the same. Then we'll invite the team in. Keep going.
00:37:34
Hera: Okie dokes. Oh, do you need help with the photos? Like, photos of the speakers.
00:37:44
Mariko Pitts: Or what?
00:37:46
Hera: For the wave. I mean, for the. For the. I think not everybody's in there yet,.
00:37:52
Mariko Pitts: But I'm not planning on putting everybody in there either.
00:37:55
Hera: Oh, okay. Okay. Okay.
00:37:56
James Redenbaugh: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:37:57
Mariko Pitts: Doing. I mean, we're doing the head headliners. I mean, I could, but it just means that, like, you're gonna have to keep cloaking more and more and more. That's fine. We can do that. But for mobile, that becomes a pain in the ass. I mean.
00:38:09
Hera: Yeah. Alex also asked the. About bios too, if we're planning to add bios eventually.
00:38:16
Mariko Pitts: But.
00:38:17
Hera: Yeah.
00:38:18
Mariko Pitts: Are going in Skid. I need all the headshots and everything for skid.
00:38:22
Hera: Yeah. Yeah.
00:38:23
Mariko Pitts: Bios for that. I don't need it for the website.
00:38:27
Hera: Got it. Okie.
00:38:29
Mariko Pitts: No, man. Oh, and I'll get that. It's actually. You can start using Sketch now if you want. By the way. Create a new. We already have. Our membership is still on. We just have a renew automatic renewal on the 29th, but it's already still usable. Go ahead and create the event if you want.
00:38:44
Hera: Okay. Okay.
00:38:45
Mariko Pitts: At least that the speaker's into it.
00:38:47
Hera: Okie dokes.
00:38:51
Mariko Pitts: Yeah, go ahead, James.
00:38:54
James Redenbaugh: We should think about getting the speakers to create profiles on the app.
00:39:01
Hera: Oh, my God, yes.
00:39:04
James Redenbaugh: Because one thing. I mean, for a number of reasons, but one thing we talked about from the beginning is creating ways for. Participants to discover which talks they should go to and how they should plan their time before the event.
00:39:25
Mariko Pitts: Yeah.
00:39:27
James Redenbaugh: And so speakers are in there, and we can figure out how to import the schedule and things like that. We could add a feature for participants to be matched with a session that.
00:39:44
Hera: Matt. Yeah.
00:39:45
James Redenbaugh: Yeah.
00:39:48
Hera: That's so cool.
00:39:49
James Redenbaugh: Sessions that they should do.
00:39:53
Mariko Pitts: I like that.
00:39:54
Hera: Okay.
00:39:54
Mariko Pitts: And that'll help for the global broadcast piece, huh?
00:39:57
Michael Shaun Conaway: Yep.
00:39:58
James Redenbaugh: Okay.
00:39:58
Hera: But they need to be ready for that. We have to do like a final sweep and everything, because once they start. I could imagine once they start sh. Sharing that, we'll. We'll get an influx of people.
00:40:09
James Redenbaugh: Yeah.
00:40:10
Hera: Using the profile.
00:40:11
Mariko Pitts: So be ready to go. But that's okay. We can Push them in in the last like two weeks essentially before the event.
00:40:19
Hera: Amazing time.
00:40:20
Mariko Pitts: We have a couple weeks before we need to really push them. But that's way. It's like we've already tested it. We got matching going, you know, and then when they come in, it doesn't look like it's just so.
00:40:31
Hera: And we need a name by then, otherwise we'll be stuck with Jeff.
00:40:35
James Redenbaugh: Yeah.
00:40:37
Hera: Hi everyone. Please test our app Jeff and let us know what you think. Please check Jeff to know what sessions match it. Match you based on your profile. See you at the wave. See you at the wave. But for now, see you at Jeff. Oh my God.
00:41:01
Mariko Pitts: Hang out with Jeff. Oh God.
00:41:02
Hera: If it was, she's gonna name that Frederick. Oh my God.
00:41:10
James Redenbaugh: The Jeff. And me sees the Jeff in you.
00:41:16
Hera: Oh my God. Like, I don't know if you, if you guys like use like country acronyms back in the 90s. Cuz like, like when you said Jeff, I. From like the, the five year old in me, you say, oh yeah, Japan just always pray at night.
00:41:35
Mariko Pitts: Wait, are you like eating your microphone?
00:41:38
James Redenbaugh: Yeah, this is your microphone.
00:41:41
Hera: I told you I'm in bed, right? I told you I'm in bed. So I'm literally. Oh, yeah, yeah, that happened.
00:41:47
James Redenbaugh: Yeah, yeah.
00:41:48
Hera: But anyway, I'm not gonna repeat.
00:41:49
Mariko Pitts: I don't need to know. I just know that microphone was very close to your mouth, so it's okay.
00:41:54
Hera: Oh my God. Oh, my God.
00:41:57
Mariko Pitts: Oh, man. We got our own problem. We all got our problems. It's all good.
00:42:02
Hera: It's hilarious. It's hilarious. So we had the Miracle Club, right? And then shortly after the Miracle Club, I was like telling Alex, okay, Alex, I'm gonna, I'm gonna talk. Call you after the miracle up, girl. I was like, I was like, let me rest my legs and just like lie down for a bit. And then Alex called me and we've been in this. And we've been in this call until her call, and I. I still haven't left the same position. Okay.
00:42:30
Mariko Pitts: Maybe you go to the bathroom or something, Take a shower. All right, I'm gonna run. I think we're good to go for now, right? Yes.
00:42:39
James Redenbaugh: Yeah, I've. I've got to send you guys an invoice. I'm way behind.
00:42:42
Mariko Pitts: Yes, you do. Send it to us. Just send it to me in a manual or send it to me first. I'll prove it and then I'll. And then we'll go from there.
00:42:49
James Redenbaugh: Sounds good.
00:42:50
Mariko Pitts: Cool. Or actually Anna, manual. I'll prove it. And then he'll pay it. So just ccs both, okay, or send it to us both.
00:43:00
James Redenbaugh: All right.
00:43:01
Mariko Pitts: All right, James.
00:43:01
James Redenbaugh: See you guys.
00:43:02
Mariko Pitts: Okay.
00:43:04
Hera: See you.
00:43:05
Mariko Pitts: Bye.