Wendy experienced persistent issues accessing the Webflow [tag="webflow"] editor, with the system repeatedly logging her out and displaying cookie errors (12:23). James resolved this by removing and reinviting her as an editor, and proposed establishing a dedicated Webflow workspace under Wendy's control (13:02). This transition will give Wendy direct hosting management and access to the builder interface, which offers more functionality than the standard editor while remaining user-friendly (57:50).
The team conducted a comprehensive review of icons for the Innovation Labs framework, finalizing designs that balance visual consistency with meaningful symbolism (16:23). James presented two sets of options: his geometric versions and alternatives from Munya. Key decisions included using rounded pentagons for the Legacy Lab to suggest organic storytelling and intergenerational connection (26:50), incorporating a compass design for the Leadership Lab (19:20), and developing a bioregion-inspired icon for the City Lab that combines built environment elements with natural forms (25:54).
For the Conscious Parenting Lab, they refined a growth progression visual showing development from infant to child (17:00). The Wisdom Lab will feature a vector equilibrium design created parametrically in specialized software (18:52). The Legacy Lab icon evolved to incorporate five-fold symmetry suggesting both a hand "handing down" knowledge and the natural patterns found in flowers, creating a spiral-like effect that captures cultural layers and resonance (24:17).
Wendy proposed integrating Global Healing Day into the Flourish Project site structure, initially considering it as a separate section before deciding to position it as the ninth Innovation Lab (32:21). This addition creates a balanced three-by-three grid layout and provides legitimacy by showcasing tangible partnerships and upcoming events (33:19). The Healing Lab will use a Caduceus or similar systemic healing symbol and will be positioned last in the sequence after the Wisdom Lab, which moves to first position, reflecting how both labs function as cross-cutting themes that influence all other labs (34:41).
The Global Healing Day site has secured impressive partnerships including the Charter for Compassion and the Pocket Project, with plans to offer both free community resources and professional paid courses using the Flourish framework for organization (30:01). For 2025, the approach emphasizes simplicity: participants share their healing activities using social media tags without formal event registration, creating an accessible grassroots movement (38:37).
The team needs to complete short bios for the Innovation Labs page and longer versions for the About page (40:14). Wendy invited both James and communications specialist Lana to join the visible team roster, emphasizing the importance of meaningful role titles—Lana chose "narrative weaver" rather than "head of communications" (11:03). James will craft his own bio and role title, with Wendy suggesting possibilities like Creative Director or Digital roles that reflect his visual storytelling capabilities (50:06).
The framework page heading was updated from generic language to "Ecosystemic Flourishing (ESF) Framework" for consistency across the site (35:56). James has resolved previous responsiveness issues on key pages (36:23).
For the homepage hero video, Wendy selected the Indigenous-themed option from three alternatives, though she noted the importance of cultural sensitivity review (41:43). She plans a two-week stakeholder vetting process with the core team before public launch, acknowledging potential concerns about language or cultural representation (47:53). The About page needs a replacement video showing vibrant community life—farmers markets, community gardens, people engaged in collaborative activities—that better conveys the bioregional and regenerative culture themes (42:05).
The contact form requires several additions including an organization field that was initially missed, plus role, LinkedIn, and website fields (46:08). For areas of interest, Wendy requested the ability for users to select multiple Innovation Labs or an "all of the above" option, noting her frustration with forms that artificially limit selections when people have broad interests (46:38).
Wendy shared her philosophy on community engagement, drawing from experience establishing two major community initiatives in her hometown (54:37). She noted it took two years to convince local stakeholders she had genuinely altruistic intentions rather than political or institutional motives, teaching her the importance of working with trusted local champions when entering new communities (54:37).
James described his evolving focus on lab building and creating frameworks and systems for enabling collaboration between diverse global parties (51:44). This aligns directly with Wendy's work, including her new directorship role in a research institute focused on the soul of cities and engaging communities with meaning, agency, and belonging (54:37). The Flourish Project aims to make sophisticated concepts accessible to ordinary people navigating uncertain times, focusing on creating positive change within local communities rather than abstract world-saving (54:37).
Wendy raised an important structural question about curating Global Healing Day resources for different user levels and contexts—individual practitioners, families, community trauma healing groups, cities, or international reconciliation efforts like Palestine and Israel (56:17). She's exploring whether the Flourish framework wheel could function as an interactive navigation tool that shows relevant resources based on user selection, combining visual framework with practical resource directory functionality (57:40).
[technology="Community Facilitation Tools"]
James Redenbaugh
Wendy Ellyatt
Wendy experienced persistent issues accessing the Webflow [tag="webflow"] editor, with the system repeatedly logging her out and displaying cookie errors (12:23). James resolved this by removing and reinviting her as an editor, and proposed establishing a dedicated Webflow workspace under Wendy's control (13:02). This transition will give Wendy direct hosting management and access to the builder interface, which offers more functionality than the standard editor while remaining user-friendly (57:50).
The team conducted a comprehensive review of icons for the Innovation Labs framework, finalizing designs that balance visual consistency with meaningful symbolism (16:23). James presented two sets of options: his geometric versions and alternatives from Munya. Key decisions included using rounded pentagons for the Legacy Lab to suggest organic storytelling and intergenerational connection (26:50), incorporating a compass design for the Leadership Lab (19:20), and developing a bioregion-inspired icon for the City Lab that combines built environment elements with natural forms (25:54).
For the Conscious Parenting Lab, they refined a growth progression visual showing development from infant to child (17:00). The Wisdom Lab will feature a vector equilibrium design created parametrically in specialized software (18:52). The Legacy Lab icon evolved to incorporate five-fold symmetry suggesting both a hand "handing down" knowledge and the natural patterns found in flowers, creating a spiral-like effect that captures cultural layers and resonance (24:17).
Wendy proposed integrating Global Healing Day into the Flourish Project site structure, initially considering it as a separate section before deciding to position it as the ninth Innovation Lab (32:21). This addition creates a balanced three-by-three grid layout and provides legitimacy by showcasing tangible partnerships and upcoming events (33:19). The Healing Lab will use a Caduceus or similar systemic healing symbol and will be positioned last in the sequence after the Wisdom Lab, which moves to first position, reflecting how both labs function as cross-cutting themes that influence all other labs (34:41).
The Global Healing Day site has secured impressive partnerships including the Charter for Compassion and the Pocket Project, with plans to offer both free community resources and professional paid courses using the Flourish framework for organization (30:01). For 2025, the approach emphasizes simplicity: participants share their healing activities using social media tags without formal event registration, creating an accessible grassroots movement (38:37).
The team needs to complete short bios for the Innovation Labs page and longer versions for the About page (40:14). Wendy invited both James and communications specialist Lana to join the visible team roster, emphasizing the importance of meaningful role titles—Lana chose "narrative weaver" rather than "head of communications" (11:03). James will craft his own bio and role title, with Wendy suggesting possibilities like Creative Director or Digital roles that reflect his visual storytelling capabilities (50:06).
The framework page heading was updated from generic language to "Ecosystemic Flourishing (ESF) Framework" for consistency across the site (35:56). James has resolved previous responsiveness issues on key pages (36:23).
For the homepage hero video, Wendy selected the Indigenous-themed option from three alternatives, though she noted the importance of cultural sensitivity review (41:43). She plans a two-week stakeholder vetting process with the core team before public launch, acknowledging potential concerns about language or cultural representation (47:53). The About page needs a replacement video showing vibrant community life—farmers markets, community gardens, people engaged in collaborative activities—that better conveys the bioregional and regenerative culture themes (42:05).
The contact form requires several additions including an organization field that was initially missed, plus role, LinkedIn, and website fields (46:08). For areas of interest, Wendy requested the ability for users to select multiple Innovation Labs or an "all of the above" option, noting her frustration with forms that artificially limit selections when people have broad interests (46:38).
Wendy shared her philosophy on community engagement, drawing from experience establishing two major community initiatives in her hometown (54:37). She noted it took two years to convince local stakeholders she had genuinely altruistic intentions rather than political or institutional motives, teaching her the importance of working with trusted local champions when entering new communities (54:37).
James described his evolving focus on lab building and creating frameworks and systems for enabling collaboration between diverse global parties (51:44). This aligns directly with Wendy's work, including her new directorship role in a research institute focused on the soul of cities and engaging communities with meaning, agency, and belonging (54:37). The Flourish Project aims to make sophisticated concepts accessible to ordinary people navigating uncertain times, focusing on creating positive change within local communities rather than abstract world-saving (54:37).
Wendy raised an important structural question about curating Global Healing Day resources for different user levels and contexts—individual practitioners, families, community trauma healing groups, cities, or international reconciliation efforts like Palestine and Israel (56:17). She's exploring whether the Flourish framework wheel could function as an interactive navigation tool that shows relevant resources based on user selection, combining visual framework with practical resource directory functionality (57:40).
[technology="Community Facilitation Tools"]
James Redenbaugh
Wendy Ellyatt
Transfer Webflow site to Wendy's workspace and provide setup instructions
January 27, 2026
Remove and reinvite Wendy as editor to resolve persistent login and cookie errors (12:23). Establish dedicated Webflow workspace under Wendy's control giving direct hosting management and builder interface access (13:02). Provide instructions for workspace setup and site transfer (58:14).
Complete all Innovation Lab icon refinements including Healing Lab Caduceus symbol
January 26, 2026
Finalize all nine Innovation Lab icons with approved designs: rounded pentagons for Legacy Lab (26:50), compass for Leadership Lab (19:20), bioregion design for City Lab (25:54), growth progression for Conscious Parenting Lab (17:00), vector equilibrium for Wisdom Lab (18:52), and Caduceus or systemic healing symbol for Healing Lab (34:08). Complete today to enable stakeholder review (48:18).
Update framework page heading to 'Ecosystemic Flourishing (ESF) Framework'
January 26, 2026
Change framework page heading from generic language to 'Ecosystemic Flourishing (ESF) Framework' for consistency across site (35:56). Quick content update.
Replace About page hero video with vibrant community life footage
January 26, 2026
Source and implement replacement video showing farmers markets, community gardens, people engaged in collaborative activities that better conveys bioregional and regenerative culture themes (42:05). Current video needs to be replaced with content showing vibrant community engagement.
Add organization field and multiple-selection capability to contact form
January 26, 2026
Add missing organization field to contact form plus role, LinkedIn, and website fields (46:08). Enable multiple selection for areas of interest allowing users to select multiple Innovation Labs or 'all of the above' option rather than forcing single selection (46:38).
Submit personal bio and preferred role title for team page
January 26, 2026
Write bio for team page and select role title that reflects visual storytelling and creative direction capabilities. Wendy suggested possibilities like Creative Director or Digital roles (50:06). Should align with other team members' meaningful role titles like Lana's 'narrative weaver'.
Conduct two-week cultural sensitivity review of Indigenous video content with stakeholders
February 9, 2026
Indigenous-themed hero video selected from three options (41:43) requires cultural sensitivity review with core team before public launch. Acknowledge potential concerns about language or cultural representation (47:53). Two-week stakeholder vetting process with core team.
Obtain Global Healing Day steering group approval for Flourish Project integration
February 9, 2026
Get approval from Global Healing Day steering group for positioning initiative under Flourish Project site as ninth Innovation Lab (38:46). Requires steering group consensus on structural integration.
Collect bio from Lana for team pages
January 26, 2026
Obtain bio content from communications specialist Lana who has chosen 'narrative weaver' as role title rather than 'head of communications' (11:03, 43:02). Need both short bio for Innovation Labs page and longer version for About page (40:14).
Review completed site updates and begin stakeholder sharing process
January 27, 2026
After all refinements completed today (48:18), review finalized site and begin two-week sharing process with core team and Global Healing Day steering group for feedback before public launch (47:53). Share with stakeholders for high-level educational leaders meeting.
Develop resource curation strategy for different user contexts and levels
February 15, 2026
Address challenge of curating Global Healing Day resources for vastly different user levels and contexts—individual practitioners, families, community trauma healing groups, cities, international reconciliation efforts (56:17). Consider whether framework wheel could function as interactive navigation tool showing relevant resources based on user selection (57:40).
Explore framework wheel as interactive resource navigation concept
February 28, 2026
Consider concepts for using the Ecosystemic Flourishing Framework wheel as an interactive tool that helps users navigate to appropriate resources based on their context and needs (57:40). Could combine visual framework presentation with practical resource directory functionality.
Website design and development for The Flourish Project upgraded to Mast framework. Site structure focuses on nine Innovation Labs with integrated Resources section. New drag-and-drop CMS capabilities. Dark mode aesthetic implementation now functional. Simplified resources approach with most labs showing contact page link for expressions of interest, except Learning Lab which gets specialized contact form capturing name, role, email, school/organization, website, city, country. Conscious Parenting Lab features actual resource grid. Resource page prominently features three core handbooks used by 30+ schools worldwide with Airtable AI-generated PDF summaries. CMS-driven team management system with unpublished profiles for Fabienne and Annie pending discussions. Framework page cleaned up removing duplicate entries, linked from homepage ESF Framework section. New Principles of Partnership page with fungi/mycelium imagery and expression of interest link. Contact page updated with calming nature image. Airtable upgraded to team plan for continuous syncing. Integration with Airtable for resource management with primary status tagging for featured handbooks. Site transfer to Wendy's Webflow workspace pending with domain connection instructions to follow. Target launch after final joint review.
Website design for The Flourish Project focusing on nine Innovation Labs structure (Wisdom, Conscious Parenting, Nurture, Learning, Community, Cities, Peace, Legacy, Healing). Wisdom Lab positioned first as cross-cutting theme using vector equilibrium icon. Healing Lab added as ninth lab incorporating Global Healing Day initiative with Caduceus symbol. Visual identity emphasizing diverse, global representation with artistic collage-style hero image incorporating interbeing themes, multi-ethnic intergenerational communities, nature, ecology, and cosmic elements. Refined symbolic icons for each lab: rounded pentagons for Legacy Lab suggesting organic storytelling, compass for Leadership Lab, bioregion-inspired design for City Lab, growth progression for Conscious Parenting Lab. Video background exploration for hero section using Indigenous-themed content pending cultural sensitivity review. Team member bios with updated titles including new members James and Lana. Framework page using 'Ecosystemic Flourishing (ESF) Framework' heading. Dark mode aesthetic with improved typography. 'Ecology of Belonging' as prominent homepage feature. Shift from consumer to participant engagement model.
Development of community engagement strategy moving from consumer to participant model. Learning Lab launching as first community of practice with specialized contact form capturing name, role, email, school/organization, website, city, country - distinct from other labs which use standard contact page. Schools, academy trusts, and educational organizations become co-creators rather than passive consumers. Communication happening through WhatsApp groups rather than complex platform features. Tiered structure where well-resourced schools pay participation fees enabling commons-level access for schools globally. Resource page features three core handbooks used by 30+ schools worldwide as primary engagement tools with automatic PDF invitation system. Future AI-powered interactive tool envisioned using Claude to replicate Wendy's knowledge base, helping different user types get personalized guidance - ideal prototype within Learning Lab community. Moving away from heavy facilitation models toward emergent gathering approach. Leveraging engagement data from 37 countries.
Finalization of iconic visual identity system for nine Innovation Labs. Completed simple, logo-like symbolic icons using consistent visual language: rounded pentagons for Legacy Lab suggesting organic storytelling and five-fold symmetry of hand passing down knowledge (24:17), compass design for Leadership Lab (19:20), bioregion-inspired icon for City Lab combining built environment with natural forms (25:54), growth progression from infant to child for Conscious Parenting Lab (17:00), vector equilibrium created parametrically for Wisdom Lab (18:52), Caduceus or systemic healing symbol for Healing Lab (34:08). Icons must be universally accessible and professional for diverse audiences from early years teachers to government leaders. Creating 'the bud rather than the flower' - simple forms that are sacred yet approachable. All icons finalized today enabling stakeholder review.
Integration of Global Healing Day initiative as the ninth Innovation Lab (Healing Lab) within The Flourish Project structure. Creates balanced three-by-three grid layout and showcases tangible partnerships including Charter for Compassion and Pocket Project. Healing Lab positioned as cross-cutting theme alongside Wisdom Lab, influencing all other labs (34:41). Uses Caduceus or systemic healing symbol. 2025 approach emphasizes simplicity: participants share healing activities using social media tags without formal event registration, creating accessible grassroots movement (38:37). Site offers both free community resources and professional paid courses organized using Flourish framework (30:01). Requires steering group approval for positioning under Flourish Project site and cultural sensitivity review of content. Provides legitimacy through demonstrated partnerships and upcoming events (33:19).
Exploration of using the Ecosystemic Flourishing Framework wheel as an interactive navigation tool for resources. AI-powered interactive tool using Claude and model context protocol to replicate Wendy's extensive knowledge base, allowing different user types—from parents to city councillors—to ask questions and receive personalized guidance about relevant resources and opportunities (50:11). Would analyze user questions to improve offerings over time (51:55). API costs decreasing rapidly, only significant with thousands of users. Ideal funded development opportunity to prototype within Learning Lab community. Combines visual framework presentation with practical resource directory functionality. Requires sophisticated filtering and curation system to surface appropriate resources based on user selections.
00:00:02
Wendy Ellyatt: This meeting is being recorded.
00:08:05
James Redenbaugh: Hi, Wendy.
00:08:07
Wendy Ellyatt: Hello. Hi.
00:08:11
James Redenbaugh: How are you?
00:08:13
Wendy Ellyatt: I'm well. I've got. Well, I say it's been a bit weird with my brother, so. Yeah, it's just a life. Life, family life. You know, everybody's got something that they're dealing with or. So it's hard to see him and his. Her. It's his second wife, so her kids, anyway, but. So I've got another funeral to go to now, so. Yeah, she wasn't that old, so. Yeah. Scary. You know, it makes you really reflective about, you know, feeling into, you know, are you doing what you should be doing? You know, is this. Because everything can change so quickly. Yeah, I'm very lucky because if I feel into, you know, if I feel into what I'm here to do, it's exactly what I'm doing. So it's great. And I think you're really lucky if that's your answer. You know, there's nothing really I would change. Apart from building a team. So if I am taken out, things will still carry on without me. When there's a little bit of work to do before that's the case. Yeah. So you're snowed under.
00:09:34
James Redenbaugh: Yeah, we got more snow than we've got all year and it's coming down hard. It's kind of sleeting now, I think.
00:09:42
Wendy Ellyatt: Yeah. I saw there are some outages in Philly. Hey.
00:09:46
James Redenbaugh: Yeah. But I think it's not as much as we thought it would be. The cats are going crazy. They don't know what to do with it.
00:09:55
Wendy Ellyatt: Very beautiful. Yeah.
00:09:57
James Redenbaugh: They're running around like mad, mad, mad dogs.
00:10:01
Wendy Ellyatt: Yeah. So, yeah, and I thought, you know, I'd love to. I say read the team thing. It's just. I can see from your skill set it'd be great to have you involved visually. I love, you know, someone who's got the ability to. To visually capture what is we're trying to do. And I'm. Because that's how I. You know, I have a really strong visual in my head, but I thought you might enjoy. She thought you might enjoy. You can see we're involved in multiple different things potentially, and I'm trying to bring everything together, but I just. I thought you might enjoy it. You might get work from it as well. Both within what I'm doing, but also outside. But it'd be great to have you involved for me and you can. Whatever role you. I love to say to people, what role? If you had one. Title, what would it be? You know.
00:11:03
James Redenbaugh: Wonderful. Awesome.
00:11:05
Wendy Ellyatt: So. Yes. So Think about the role. Like.
00:11:09
James Redenbaugh: Yeah, I'll think about it.
00:11:11
Wendy Ellyatt: Creative director or digital. Whatever I say. Even when I went to Lana, when I asked Lana, she doesn't want to be like head of comm. She wants to be narrative weaver. And I thought that's really lovely. So. Because it was closer to what she thought she was doing. But. But yeah. And if. If all I need for that is a bio and headshot and we can add you to the team. But it helps to convey to people the brand breadth and the skill set we're bringing around what we're seeing. So that was one thing. And then I really do need the site up or not up, but up so I can show it to people. So. And this. The web, whatever. What's it called?
00:11:58
James Redenbaugh: The web.
00:11:59
Wendy Ellyatt: It keeps shutting me out. If I it. It shot, it doesn't show the edit and it keeps wanting me to sign in again as an editor. And when I do that I think it's just looping. So it's almost remove me as an editor. I thought that might be the way to do it because I presume you have to remove me as an editor and we can start again.
00:12:23
James Redenbaugh: I don't not to edit. We should be able to be in there at the same time.
00:12:30
Wendy Ellyatt: Can you see? Can you remove me as an editor on the site? I can because it might be the thing to do is to take me out and then reinvite me because it's got. It keeps telling me there's cookies issue and browser issues but I've gone into another browser and it just doesn't recognize me from the previous time.
00:13:02
James Redenbaugh: Strange. I'll. I'll try that.
00:13:07
Wendy Ellyatt: Because it was working fine. I was getting the little edit thing at the bottom. Yeah.
00:13:10
James Redenbaugh: Huh.
00:13:11
Wendy Ellyatt: But now isn't showing it to me.
00:13:16
James Redenbaugh: Okay, I'm inviting you again.
00:13:18
Wendy Ellyatt: Which email.
00:13:19
James Redenbaugh: Have you used your Gmail?
00:13:23
Wendy Ellyatt: Have you taken me off the. So you removed it and then put it in again?
00:13:26
James Redenbaugh: Yeah, yeah. All right.
00:13:28
Wendy Ellyatt: Hold on. I'm going to put Elliot New three this time and my surname.
00:13:50
James Redenbaugh: Another thing we can do is set you up with your own webflow account and then we can transfer the site over there.
00:13:57
Wendy Ellyatt: Yeah. And I think it's forced me to do that. I think I've already probably got one by. Let me just. Hold on. Let me just do.
00:14:22
James Redenbaugh: Right, hold on.
00:14:30
Wendy Ellyatt: Right. So it's. That's worked. Let me just write down them. Let me just write the login and password.
00:14:39
James Redenbaugh: Hold on.
00:14:58
Wendy Ellyatt: So in theory I'm in. And then it's just going through page by Page. I'm. You know, I've been sending you bits and bobs. Yeah. How do you want to do this? Should we go page by page?
00:15:23
James Redenbaugh: Sure. And let's start with the icons.
00:15:30
Wendy Ellyatt: Have we. She sent new ones?
00:15:33
James Redenbaugh: Yes.
00:15:34
Wendy Ellyatt: Have you got them up?
00:15:37
James Redenbaugh: No, not yet. I. I'll share my screen over here.
00:15:41
Wendy Ellyatt: And the other thing I thought was it might be interesting. I was just playing about the idea myself of saying, could we put them all in three concentric circles to indicate the framework?
00:15:56
James Redenbaugh: Three concentric.
00:15:58
Wendy Ellyatt: Well, I was just thinking if we put them in circles, it would in. It would actually convey the. The framework.
00:16:07
James Redenbaugh: You mean each of them in a framework in.
00:16:11
Wendy Ellyatt: In circle?
00:16:11
James Redenbaugh: Yeah.
00:16:12
Wendy Ellyatt: It's just an idea whether that would work.
00:16:17
James Redenbaugh: Yeah. So these are the ones that I generated the other day.
00:16:21
Wendy Ellyatt: She sent new ones. Yeah.
00:16:23
James Redenbaugh: And Munya did these. And I think I like these better.
00:16:33
Wendy Ellyatt: I like. I don't like the conscious parent. It's the car. Can I make them bigger? I can't see the conscious parenting one. It looks like lots of little squares at the moment.
00:16:47
James Redenbaugh: I'll make this whole thing bigger. I like this conscious parenting one better than this one. There's two different.
00:16:56
Wendy Ellyatt: Well, you'd need a little one. You'd need a baby.
00:17:00
James Redenbaugh: Well, that's like the circle here. And then it's like growing up.
00:17:04
Wendy Ellyatt: Ah. Oh, I see what you mean. It might work better with the. Without the band on the left hand side. So it's obvious it's a baby. It just looks a bit. Because I didn't get that.
00:17:23
James Redenbaugh: Like this.
00:17:28
Wendy Ellyatt: Still needs. Well, I don't know. That's quite nice, isn't it? I like how simple that is.
00:17:39
James Redenbaugh: Yeah.
00:17:41
Wendy Ellyatt: I like the Nurture Lab a lot. I'm cool with the Learning Lab. That's what works. I like peace lab. Have they got the other ones? The Leadership Lab needs to be the Vesica Pisces. No, the Wisdom Lab needs to be the Vesica Pisces.
00:18:14
James Redenbaugh: Okay.
00:18:28
Wendy Ellyatt: Which is a nice simple image. The only thing I would say is they then. I know, actually, because they haven't got. All the others are in circles. We've got the seven with circles. I didn't mean. I'm sorry. I meant the vector equilibrium, not the Vesca Pisces.
00:18:52
James Redenbaugh: Oh, yeah, the geometry. I'm. I'm doing that one geometrically in another program. How's the Leadership Lab?
00:19:12
Wendy Ellyatt: I can't see it.
00:19:20
James Redenbaugh: You see now.
00:19:23
Wendy Ellyatt: I think it's cool. It be nice to have a symbol that had meaning to it.
00:19:38
James Redenbaugh: Well, it's a. It's A compass.
00:19:40
Wendy Ellyatt: Yeah, I was going to say it's a compass. It's. It's quite neat, isn't it? Yeah. All right. Yeah. Well, let's go with that for the moment. Yeah.
00:19:48
James Redenbaugh: Okay.
00:19:49
Wendy Ellyatt: The wisdom lab, we know, the legacy lab now that needs to convey something stronger because it's about elder care and passing on the stories and rituals. That. That doesn't convey that.
00:20:08
James Redenbaugh: Yeah.
00:20:10
Wendy Ellyatt: It'S about storytelling and ancestors intergenerational sharing. Because that's all me. Because we're hoping to run a project where we have like nursery schools working with care homes. So somehow it's conveying that storytelling aspect and passing down. And how. Convey stories.
00:21:08
James Redenbaugh: How's that?
00:21:11
Wendy Ellyatt: Still doesn't do it for me.
00:21:15
James Redenbaugh: What conveyor stories to you?
00:21:34
Wendy Ellyatt: Well, it's handing down things over time. I'm not sure how you.
00:21:42
James Redenbaugh: That's what this is. Symbolizes for me.
00:21:49
Wendy Ellyatt: I guess. I don't like. I don't like the. Box. The rigidity of the outer square. If it was like a heart in concentric circles where you're. It's much more about a resonance and curves than it is about squares. I think. I like the curves.
00:22:29
James Redenbaugh: I don't want to overuse the heart. But.
00:22:36
Wendy Ellyatt: How you capture stories. And the intergenerational aspect, you know, them. Or an indigenous symbol for. Something that looks like an indigenous anything. Yeah, it's more about patterns, isn't it? That's. That's better. Because it. That. That sort of captures layers, cultural layers from the young to the old. But the telling of. And it's almost rose. Well, it's almost flower, like in the. It. It's capturing the layers and its resonance. Yeah, I quite like that.
00:24:17
James Redenbaugh: And the five is the hand, like handing down. And it's a symmetry we find in Florida.
00:24:23
Wendy Ellyatt: Yeah, I like that. Let's go with that for the moment.
00:24:27
James Redenbaugh: Yay. And it's. Even though it's made of just circles and pentagons, it looks like a spiral. It's very much. Yeah. Cool. Oopsie. Oh, that's nice.
00:24:41
Wendy Ellyatt: Oh, that. Great. Could just be a spiral. Yeah.
00:24:50
James Redenbaugh: Yeah. And City Lab, I think similar to the one that I made, I would do. In our new language.
00:25:11
Wendy Ellyatt: And we see cities as by regions. So, you know, the. The projects that we're involved in is very much Soul of the City is the name of the program we're involved in. So we've got nine cities. Well, it's another part of. It's another project. But they're going to come in under that. So again, it's stories. But it's talking about cities as bioregions. And then what. What's special about one particular. What's special about the place, the land and the place? Yeah, something more like that. See, that's much more interesting straight away, because that looks like you've got the sense of kind of something that's a construction, but actually it's embedded in a bioregion.
00:25:54
James Redenbaugh: Mm. Yeah, something like that.
00:26:03
Wendy Ellyatt: Yeah.
00:26:09
James Redenbaugh: Cool. I'll play with that and finesse it a bit. Yeah, Maybe it has a little organic to it. That's nice. Okey dokey. Real quick on this one. Do we like the sharp pentagons or a little bit of rounding?
00:26:50
Wendy Ellyatt: Write it off, Put them sharp again. I like the rounding, I think.
00:27:06
James Redenbaugh: Me too. Cool. Okay.
00:27:28
Wendy Ellyatt: Is that all of them? Have we done Wisdom Lab? We know. Is the. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, cool.
00:27:37
James Redenbaugh: You mentioned a happiness page. What's a. What's a happiness page?
00:27:41
Wendy Ellyatt: I haven't. No. Healing page.
00:27:43
James Redenbaugh: Oh, healing page.
00:27:45
Wendy Ellyatt: But actually, I've already thought. Well, because I've had a long chat, because I'm developing Global Healing Day, I say, we've already got loads of partners. And I was talking to Lana and she said, look, it doesn't make. Because they were saying, we need a wheel. And then Lana took one look at this site and when. Seriously, Wendy, you should be pitching this under using the Flourish wheel, because why would we want another wheel when you've got something that's already got everything in it? So I'm now thinking under Innovation Labs, we could have. Rather than put the navigation at the top underneath there. We could have Global Healing as a heading. As the next.
00:28:27
James Redenbaugh: As a lab. Over here.
00:28:28
Wendy Ellyatt: No, as a heading.
00:28:31
James Redenbaugh: Oh, up here.
00:28:33
Wendy Ellyatt: Now, if you go down. Well, I don't know, Where would you put it? So I like the idea of having Global Healing as a. Another aspect that then clicks to the page that then clicks to Global Healing Day as a project, because we've got a separate website built. And it makes sense. But I need to have it approved by the steering group because I've got really great people on the steering group who are running big organizations and I just need them because I've presented it as a collaborative and I need to make them know that even if it's positioned under the Flourish project, it's still a collaborative.
00:29:27
James Redenbaugh: Can I see the healing?
00:29:28
Wendy Ellyatt: But I thought that was my. Yeah.
00:29:51
James Redenbaugh: Cool.
00:29:58
Wendy Ellyatt: As partners. Really cool partners.
00:30:01
James Redenbaugh: Nice. Very cool partners.
00:30:05
Wendy Ellyatt: Yep.
00:30:08
James Redenbaugh: You made this.
00:30:09
Wendy Ellyatt: Yeah. And then. So it aligns nicely. So the thinking was. To. If they're all happy, to position it. Ah. To Position it inside the Flourish project. Even if they're not happy, there's no reason why I can't, because healing is fundamental to flourishing. So I kind of like Global Healing as a heading somewhere. But. And then I thought, well, like we could put it under the Innovation Labs as a. With a little script and go to a dedicated page and the page could then lead to that site. So there's a logic to it.
00:31:14
James Redenbaugh: Yeah.
00:31:16
Wendy Ellyatt: Does that make sense? Is that better? Is that the best place to put it?
00:31:24
James Redenbaugh: I think so.
00:31:26
Wendy Ellyatt: Can you stick. Can you share your screen again?
00:31:28
James Redenbaugh: Yeah.
00:31:33
Wendy Ellyatt: Because it means. And then I can say to them, because I want to show them this site and then if we put it there, I can show them. Because I was thinking if it went above the transforming well being. Well, I don't know. Yeah, I probably would go under the Innovation Labs. But if there's a heading with a little bit of text and then that led to the page because I. When I thought about it, I thought, well, absolutely, I must. I should have Healing in the Flourish site. And it didn't feel right to have it as a lab because it crosses all of them.
00:32:16
James Redenbaugh: Yeah.
00:32:21
Wendy Ellyatt: At first I thought it could be a ninth lab, and then I thought, no, actually it's better as a separate thing. It could be a ninth lab. What would you do?
00:32:40
James Redenbaugh: Well, a ninth lab would be very balanced because it would fill the square here and it could just link to the Global Healing Day website. It could be both, though. Also, if we want to promote this and it's a tangible thing also on the homepage, people coming here. Oh, they're actually doing this day on the 25th. They have all these organizations involved. It gives some. Some more legitimacy.
00:33:19
Wendy Ellyatt: So have it as a lab, you mean?
00:33:22
James Redenbaugh: I think both have it as a lab and a.
00:33:26
Wendy Ellyatt: So the healing section. The healing lab.
00:33:29
James Redenbaugh: Healing lab. And. But maybe you learn more and it just takes you right to. Yeah, the website.
00:33:37
Wendy Ellyatt: Well, let's set it up like that so that. Because I can then show the others what we're intending. Okay, let. Let's set it up. In which case I would need another little logo for healing, which would be the, like the Caduceus or something, you know, some. Some symbol of healing, systemic healing.
00:34:04
James Redenbaugh: Yeah, Caduceus would be good.
00:34:08
Wendy Ellyatt: Yeah. In which case it would come before the wisdom. No, the Wisdom lab should be the first one at the top, I think, about the sequence, because wisdom, you see, both the Wisdom lab and the healing lab are all the other labs they are involved in. So we either put them at the top or we put them at the bottom, but they're the ones that. That actually are. They're affecting all the others. So I don't know how we do that.
00:34:41
James Redenbaugh: I think wisdom lab first, healing lab last, and then the healing lab section.
00:34:47
Wendy Ellyatt: Okay. All right, let's do that.
00:34:50
James Redenbaugh: Okay.
00:34:52
Wendy Ellyatt: And then that's nine, which is nice and clear. And I like the number nine.
00:35:01
James Redenbaugh: Great.
00:35:03
Wendy Ellyatt: All right.
00:35:07
James Redenbaugh: Okay. I like the number nine as well.
00:35:16
Wendy Ellyatt: Oh, I know. If you go up the site a bit, you may have already picked it up. If you go up to the top of the site where it says introducing the framework. Yeah. That's not the right text. It should be ecosystemic. Flourishing ESF framework. Like as it was on the other page. Flourishing brackets ESF framework. Yeah. Then that's consistent.
00:35:56
James Redenbaugh: Should this say the model then? So we're not redundant?
00:36:03
Wendy Ellyatt: That's fine.
00:36:10
James Redenbaugh: This could be a bit wider.
00:36:12
Wendy Ellyatt: Yeah.
00:36:16
James Redenbaugh: Cool. I fixed the responsiveness issues on here and means as well.
00:36:21
Wendy Ellyatt: Oh, and you solved them, the ones on those as well?
00:36:23
James Redenbaugh: Yeah, yeah.
00:36:25
Wendy Ellyatt: Then we get. Then we get the labs. So we get nine labs that we can include Global Healing Day, which is great because this year, again, we're running with no money this year, but with such very interesting partners. I'm hoping. Again next year we can start to build that up. And on what we're aiming to do, because the Charter for Compassion and the Pocket project have obviously got lots of resources already developed. So we're going to go back to all the partners next month and say what we want to do is offer to everybody and we can use the Flourish model as the framework to say, here are all the free resources. These are. The partners are offering free resources. There's a commons that is accessible to everybody, but then there are also professional courses and paid stuff that you can sign up to that the partners are running. So we're trying to look at how we can do that to offer everybody. And what's interesting about this then is those labs. Well, that's kind of an interesting thing. I wonder if we could offer it across those, like the conscious parenting. There'll be resources. Anyway, I haven't. Think it through. Say it's. We're trying to. It's got. It's starting in April. So I'm. This year I've. I've said to everybody, look, just, you know, we've got enough people involved, we just need to give it a bit of structure and then we can all like, sort out how this works next year. But for the moment, we're bringing people together and we're trying to say here's all these resources that are there for free to support your own healing. And you just use the social media tags. Just share. We know we're not having. We don't have to register events. You just share online what you're doing and we'll pick it up and it's. It's no more complicated than that. So anybody can do anything?
00:38:37
James Redenbaugh: Yeah, yeah.
00:38:39
Wendy Ellyatt: So you can pick it up globalhealingday World. You can pick up the text from the site.
00:38:46
James Redenbaugh: Okay.
00:38:46
Wendy Ellyatt: I'll also send you the little comms kit that we're. The couple of things that we've been working. Actually let me do that now and then I won't forget. Hold on. I'll send you a couple of the things. I'll just. You the things we're actually working on that will hopefully go out at the end of the month, but they're still being worked on Global Healing Day. Hold on. Yes. I've just emailed you the two things that that small steering group are working on with me.
00:39:53
James Redenbaugh: Okay.
00:39:55
Wendy Ellyatt: So that works well. Okay.
00:39:59
James Redenbaugh: Great.
00:40:01
Wendy Ellyatt: So that's fine. That. Oh, now we need this short bios. You may have already done this and I sent you. So we need the short bios are here and then the longer BIOS on the about page.
00:40:14
James Redenbaugh: Yeah, I can pop those in for you.
00:40:17
Wendy Ellyatt: And I sent you because I thought to make sure I wasn't getting confused. So I sent you one paper that had. The last paper I sent you had both on one document. Lana joining and you joining, which will be in there as well.
00:40:42
James Redenbaugh: Cool.
00:40:45
Wendy Ellyatt: Because that's what I need. That's almost the most urgent thing to get the icons done and that done. It's just that I need all the members of the team to approve what's being said on both those places. Yeah.
00:41:05
James Redenbaugh: Okay. I'll drop that in there. And then. For the hero video, do we want to go?
00:41:34
Wendy Ellyatt: Yeah. I like. I really like all. All three. Let's stick with the indigenous one and I'll test it out with people.
00:41:41
James Redenbaugh: Okay.
00:41:43
Wendy Ellyatt: But I like those every time I look at it. I don't like the one on the about page though. It's too static looking.
00:41:54
James Redenbaugh: Yeah. We need a better. What do you think would be appropriate here?
00:42:05
Wendy Ellyatt: So just something much more vibrant like community life. Ish. Because we say co creating regenerative cultures, you know, it's that whole bio regions, you know, people planting stuff, looking after allotments, market, you know, all that. Community life. Yeah.
00:42:32
James Redenbaugh: Okay.
00:42:32
Wendy Ellyatt: Because that's more got the community feel, I think.
00:42:36
James Redenbaugh: Yeah.
00:42:38
Wendy Ellyatt: So we need all the Innovation Lab links to come in under Innovation Lab, obviously. I mean. All the team bios to do. So that's the long ones and I think. Yeah, that's the right order.
00:42:57
James Redenbaugh: Yeah.
00:43:02
Wendy Ellyatt: Lana's going to send me hers.
00:43:07
James Redenbaugh: Okay.
00:43:12
Wendy Ellyatt: The framework. The top image on the framework. Is it. The framework page kept cutting off. If you get. I love that image and I love. I think when we go to the individual labs, the images don't need to be too big on the. When you go to the pages, but you're making smaller ones anyway. I love the. Look at all of that.
00:43:49
James Redenbaugh: Great.
00:43:51
Wendy Ellyatt: Like the images. Yep. Love that.
00:43:58
James Redenbaugh: Okay.
00:44:01
Wendy Ellyatt: It cuts his head off. That's. That's what I was getting.
00:44:09
James Redenbaugh: Yeah. Most screen sizes aren't going to be that wide. They're going to be more like this at the widest. Oops. Oh, we have a. Some overflow issue there on my Mac.
00:44:26
Wendy Ellyatt: It cuts off.
00:44:29
James Redenbaugh: Okay. I'll align it so it.
00:44:34
Wendy Ellyatt: Because it's a lovely image.
00:44:36
James Redenbaugh: Higher. Yeah.
00:44:46
Wendy Ellyatt: Yeah. Like the change of human capacities and potential. We've changed. That's great. I like the image change.
00:44:52
James Redenbaugh: Great.
00:44:54
Wendy Ellyatt: And that's. We've got.
00:44:55
James Redenbaugh: Needs to change down there.
00:45:00
Wendy Ellyatt: And that's all fine.
00:45:03
James Redenbaugh: Great. Resources.
00:45:05
Wendy Ellyatt: Resources. We just need the. Get rid of all of that and just put that one line. We're just working on it basically.
00:45:14
James Redenbaugh: But should we keep this for now?
00:45:25
Wendy Ellyatt: Yeah, I think we'd have that and just add a line about. We're just working on it also. Oh yeah, you've put it anyway. So that's fine. Just get rid of all the stuff at the bottom. Yeah.
00:45:35
James Redenbaugh: Okay.
00:45:37
Wendy Ellyatt: And then on the contact page. Did you see the stuff for the contact form? Yes, I think I missed organization. And now we need to change the. Add the two labs.
00:45:53
James Redenbaugh: Cool. I can do that. I'll see if I can just have the app, the labs or from the cms. And then the form's gonna look like this.
00:46:05
Wendy Ellyatt: But yeah, I think we need. Because I had so Name email. Can't see. That's too small. Oh, it was name email because organization and role and then your, you know, LinkedIn websites. I think I sent you the list by missed organization.
00:46:33
James Redenbaugh: Yep, I'll add that in.
00:46:38
Wendy Ellyatt: And then areas of interest. The what? The only thing we may need to make sure is because I get really irritated because I. I'm forced like people. When people say choose three and I'm thinking, well, actually I'm interested in every single one. I get really frustrated. So allowing people to tick as many as they want or to check one that says the whole thing. Because that would be mine. Yeah.
00:47:02
James Redenbaugh: Yeah. Okay.
00:47:16
Wendy Ellyatt: I think that's it. I'm saying we can go with those images because I, I think they're the, you know, the videos. Let's. Let's go with it. Even if I make a mistake on the indigenous, it's just I say I've learned to be cautious. Like for example, she says something to her little one. Yeah. And I'm going to have people in Hawaii or, or New Zealand or whoever is in who will understand what she says. So I've just got to be careful because it's amazing how you can upset people.
00:47:53
James Redenbaugh: Yeah.
00:47:54
Wendy Ellyatt: So I like it, but we just have to be careful.
00:47:57
James Redenbaugh: Okay.
00:47:58
Wendy Ellyatt: But that's what the, you know, having the site up so that I can share it with people for, you know, I just want to share with. For two weeks I'll do nothing but check it with our core lot, you know, to make sure no one's picking up anything I haven't seen.
00:48:12
James Redenbaugh: Yeah, cool. Well, I think I can do all those little pieces today.
00:48:18
Wendy Ellyatt: Oh, fantastic.
00:48:19
James Redenbaugh: Yeah.
00:48:20
Wendy Ellyatt: Because it'd be great. And then I can start talk, you know, I can start sharing it with people.
00:48:26
James Redenbaugh: Yeah.
00:48:27
Wendy Ellyatt: Straight away. I mean, I've only showed it to two people and they're kind of knocked out because it's, it's so different. They have no conception of how much work we've done and how different it's going to be. And I love it because they immediately means they take it much more seriously and suddenly want to get involved, you know.
00:48:46
James Redenbaugh: Awesome. Great. That's the whole idea.
00:48:50
Wendy Ellyatt: And I think the only other thing is checking on each lab that we don't have resources at the moment. We have, you know, we're just building our resources thing on each one and expressions of interest. And then obviously the ones that are the labs don't need the. We just need to shape the contact form for those. And then I need to think about the newsletter, whether we do one, which we probably will, but then how to set that up. I've got to think about it. I think I've got one set up in mailchimp that I haven't used for. For quite a long time.
00:49:36
James Redenbaugh: We can just collect email addresses for now and you don't have to go anywhere.
00:49:40
Wendy Ellyatt: Yeah. Is there anything else you need from me?
00:49:48
James Redenbaugh: I don't think so. Yeah. I'm going to clean up this image a bit.
00:49:55
Wendy Ellyatt: That's fab. And I say you craft your own bio and think about a title and then we can Put you up as part of the ongoing team, which is cool for me too. James.
00:50:06
James Redenbaugh: Yeah, great.
00:50:08
Wendy Ellyatt: I'm trying to build a. And Lana is. I mean, Lana who's coming in for the narrative. She's had cancer twice. You know, it's very interesting. We've got people with real depth who, you know, they. They've walked through the fire and are doing this. I'm trying, you know, the people that are coming around it understand we're doing something special and they only want to work with things that have depth and meaning because they're at a point in their life where that's. They simply don't need it and they're not going to work with anything. So she's really. She's also hugely talented in terms of. She's. She's very good at blogs and social media and substack articles. She's very, very good crafting of stuff. So she's going to do the hold comms aspect and she's setting up a LinkedIn page and for. For the Flourish Project and the global Healing Day. So hopefully you'll get to know her. But it should be really, really good. But hopefully you'll enjoy. But you can see what I'm doing. So you've got all these different aspects that I'm weaving in.
00:51:23
James Redenbaugh: Yeah, and you know, increasingly, I mean, IRIS stands for intuitive, relational and intersubjective, which is the ingredients for any, Any good lab.
00:51:42
Wendy Ellyatt: Yeah.
00:51:44
James Redenbaugh: But increasingly my work is all about lab building. And ultimately what I want to do, I was telling my dad this last night actually, is create tools and means and, you know, frameworks and systems for aiding and collaboration between diverse parties around the world. Because the problems we have.
00:52:12
Wendy Ellyatt: And that's exactly what I'm doing. And that's why I'm hoping the Flourish Project basically will enable you to bring that skill sets into this because. And straight away, the city side. I'm just becoming a director of the L. Carron. Well, that's my suggestion. So we're setting up this research institute, but its whole focus is the soul of cities. And how do you. How do you engage communities to give them a sense of meaning and agency and belonging, but also to say you have capacities that you. We all as human beings have capacities that are undeveloped and they're unacknowledged, that make us much more interesting and able than we're being told. So to try and nurture people across populations is really my core thing. How do we bring all this now down? I really want to have things accessible to ordinary people. Who are just going about their lives and at the moment who feel like the world has just gone shit it, you know. But actually that's prepared the ground for mass involvement at scale in things that are simply about creating great things within your local community and doing what's meaningful and relevant to you in your life. Not trying to save the world, but trying to say, these are the people I love, these are the things I love that, you know, I'm going to focus on that and I want to help through my work. That's. And I'm an inveterate. I set up the two biggest community initiatives in my hometown here and they've. One is for people who are new to the town and that is now about 180 people. You can't get them to leave. And the other was I set up the biggest kind of community initiative to, to try and create villages in a city. My interest was could I create the same sense that I had growing up of growing up in a village in a place of150,000 people? We, so we made it part of the town and it was so successful. So I've kind of prototyped how you work with huge numbers of volunteers and how you deal with their suspicion at the beginning. Because nobody believes you're doing anything for nothing, you know.
00:54:37
James Redenbaugh: Yeah.
00:54:37
Wendy Ellyatt: It's a really weird thing. Took me two years to convince the local traders that I wasn't a council spy or I was not trying to be a politician because they couldn't believe that someone was just coming in and trying to do it for nothing. And had a genuinely altruistic Once they knew that everybody was on board. But it was a shock to me how long it took for people not to be suspicious and well, it's too rare. Yeah. So I. But it was a good learning because now I know when you go into communities you really need a local champion to work with. You need the people who the communities already trust and then you work with them and that's what we're kind of exploring. So I think lots so much exciting stuff. So it'd be fantastic if you can get the basics done. James. So enough so tomorrow I can share it one with my team, but also the Global Healing Day steering group. I want to say to them, look, this doesn't make sense to have it completely apart because we can use the, the framework. There's one other thing you might think about is if we used. Because I, I, we started to talk about it and then I wasn't sure how to do it. If we're saying, we're sending out documents as saying, you can come at this at ever, whatever level you are from. If you're a parent in your family, you know, are you doing trauma stuff because of what happened to you in your childhood? Are you working with the ancestors? Are you working with the land? Are you working with other species? Are you looking at the impact of war? You know that there are so many layers. Are you looking at as a city wanting to say, how do we heal the patterns that are. And how do you like Palestine and Israel? So there are all these layers that people can do things in, or they can just sit and pray during the day in their home, they can sit in their garden and, and hold that space. But we, you know, how if we were to use the Flourish framework and we had all these different people wanting to. Is there a way we could use the framework where they could almost hit the framework and be shown all the things that are available to them? And that's, that's kind of where we're. We're going. Could you. Because we're, we're trying to curate. If we're going to say, here are these resources, some are free and some are not, we still have to curate them into. This is for an individual, this is for a family, you know, this is for a group working on trauma healing. We're still going to have to do that curation thing. And that's where we're at now. And I was thinking, well, that fits with the wheel, but how would we do it? So if you have any ideas about that, let me know.
00:57:40
James Redenbaugh: Cool. Yeah. Think about it.
00:57:42
Wendy Ellyatt: Yeah. All right. Fantastic. Time chuffed.
00:57:46
James Redenbaugh: Sounds good.
00:57:47
Wendy Ellyatt: Yeah, all sounds good. And then just send me stuff as you've got it.
00:57:50
James Redenbaugh: Yeah, yeah. And I'll send you instructions on signing up for a webflow workspace. It's a different kind of account. And then we'll get the site transferred over there and then you can get, you can set up a hosting plan and connect your domain and you'll also have the same kind of access that we have.
00:58:14
Wendy Ellyatt: So I'll be terrifying to it up though.
00:58:17
James Redenbaugh: You'll be terrified. But there's, there's actually another, a third level of access which will be easier for you, called the builder. That's much easier to use than Editor or it's. It's more robust. You can do more with it. It's still hard to break stuff, but it's going to be more similar to what you're used to on Weebly. Things like that. There will be a bit of a learning curve, but the way we've set the site up, it should be relatively easy to figure out. And. And when you need help, I'm. I'm here to help also. So. Yeah.
00:58:58
Wendy Ellyatt: And that. Yes. So. Yeah. So I'm. I'm enjoying it. It's just, it's. I say, I know once we've got the site up, I'm hopefully there won't be too many ads, because the site will have most stuff in it. It'll simply be adding sections to pages. But. Yeah, all sounds good, James. Thank you very much. And then just let me know when you've got stuff and we can chat. All right.
00:59:22
James Redenbaugh: Okay, sounds good. Thanks, Wendy.
00:59:24
Wendy Ellyatt: Bye.
00:59:24
James Redenbaugh: See you soon. Bye.
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