James presented initial homepage drafts blending copy with preliminary graphics to establish brand direction (31:14). The hero text emphasizes "leadership from presence, not pressure" targeting conscious founders at transformational thresholds. Early visual elements include vertical and horizontal lines with circles symbolizing presence and leadership.
[tag="webflow"]
David identified a critical design gap: the current sky-focused visuals need grounding imagery to balance cosmic spaciousness with earth connection (38:55). He emphasized that his work centers on embodied leadership—helping high performers work with gravity and the outbreath to sink stress energy into grounded presence. The design currently shows only space without embodiment.
Despite mountains being common business metaphors, David energetically resonates with this symbol from his vision quest experiences (42:09). The mountain represents standing at the peak with feet firmly planted—bridging earth and sky rather than floating in cosmic space alone. This authentic connection outweighs concerns about the metaphor being overused.
James shared curated visual inspiration using Pinterest as a discovery tool rather than source for direct use (46:07). David will independently explore Pinterest and build his own mood boards, allowing organic visual preference development.
David gravitated toward specific aesthetic qualities:
Critical brand positioning constraint: David is more open to esoteric spiritual imagery than his clients, who may have "esoteric allergies" (52:15). The design must avoid common spiritual clichés—flowers of life, unicorns, angels—while maintaining professional appeal to performance-oriented leaders.
The session's strongest visual discovery was a natural landscape composition featuring circle, vertical horizon, and horizontal line elements in a Dao/yin-yang configuration communicated entirely through nature (58:16). This image perfectly balances David's spiritual depth with accessible natural imagery.
James introduced a custom Grasshopper tool enabling David to explore geometric symmetries, circle counts, and animations independently (01:02:17). The tool supports saving preset configurations and sharing exact specifications via codes or screenshots, facilitating iterative feedback.
[tag="grasshopper"]
David identified strong preferences for 5, 7, 9, and 12 circles (01:20:10):
The tool currently doesn't save color information, but David favors gold and white color schemes—gold for its premium spiritual feel, white for clarity (01:13:38).
[technology="Parametric Geometric Interfaces"]
James emphasized creating subtle altered-state awareness without explicit psychedelic references (01:05:24). The goal is inducing contemplative states in clients "without them realizing or associating it with what they think of psychedelics." This aligns with David's conscious clarity positioning while avoiding overly feminine or psychedelic impressions.
David acknowledged his own growth edge: becoming more assertive about authentic spiritual presence even if it turns away some clients (01:05:49). His background combining Native American vision quests with corporate consulting (Thyssen Krupp Steel) has evolved toward deeper authenticity. As James noted, "If you're not turning off some people, then you're not being bold enough" (01:09:29).
Copy development is integrated early with visual design rather than treated as separate sequential phases (34:14). James's homepage drafts already include both text and graphics to enable holistic conversations about mood and messaging.
David has primarily used his GPT tools in copywriter mode to capture authentic tone and energy for draft content (33:17). Next steps include James sharing editable Word documents of homepage copy for collaborative refinement, ensuring the voice remains genuinely David's while benefiting from professional polish.
This integrated approach prevents disjointed workflows and accelerates convergence on compelling narrative that unifies visual and verbal brand expression.
David requested flexible pacing to honor his current need for retreat and mental space (26:07). The timeline intentionally extends through year-end, allowing ideas to "marinate" rather than forcing rushed decisions during a period when David feels called to wind down and be quiet.
This approach balances productivity with presence, reducing burnout risk while maintaining project momentum. David shared a vulnerable reflection: while trying to market his presence-based offering, he sometimes catches himself "leading with pressure" rather than embodying the very qualities he teaches (01:25:38).
David articulated his evolution toward bold authenticity (01:05:49). His journey from cautiously hiding spirituality at Thyssen Krupp Steel to founding Light Creators Tribe represents progressive movement toward his authentic core as "a spiritual being here."
The brand aims to attract clients who resonate deeply with this spiritual leadership approach—even if it means excluding pragmatic leaders resistant to consciousness work. His unique offering bridges Native American vision quest experiences with corporate performance expertise, creating embodied leadership grounded in clarity rather than pressure.
Visual and verbal cues must thread this needle: inviting deep commitment from aligned clients without triggering esoteric resistance among business-focused founders. The design supports this vision by balancing subtle mysticism with professional aesthetics and clear messaging.
James demonstrated his personal AI-driven planner integrating chat, scheduling, and automatic calendar updates tailored to neurodivergent needs (01:27:22). The system allows conversational task management and evolves features through dialogue with AI agents.
[tag="claude"]
David uses Outlook, Calendly, and Booking Calendar but expressed interest in intelligent integration aligned with conscious leadership principles (01:32:59). His calendar management needs include:
James confirmed capability to build custom cloud agents understanding David's scheduling preferences and presence-led work rhythms (01:35:03). However, both agreed to position this as a future upsell opportunity after completing foundational brand and website development (01:35:32).
[technology="Collaboration Management Tools"][technology="Time-Aware Toolsets"]
The vision: creating a seamless intelligent assistant managing energy, task priorities, and client interactions in harmony with David's conscious business philosophy. This would extend the brand's promise of grounded leadership into daily operational support systems.
James presented initial homepage drafts blending copy with preliminary graphics to establish brand direction (31:14). The hero text emphasizes "leadership from presence, not pressure" targeting conscious founders at transformational thresholds. Early visual elements include vertical and horizontal lines with circles symbolizing presence and leadership.
[tag="webflow"]
David identified a critical design gap: the current sky-focused visuals need grounding imagery to balance cosmic spaciousness with earth connection (38:55). He emphasized that his work centers on embodied leadership—helping high performers work with gravity and the outbreath to sink stress energy into grounded presence. The design currently shows only space without embodiment.
Despite mountains being common business metaphors, David energetically resonates with this symbol from his vision quest experiences (42:09). The mountain represents standing at the peak with feet firmly planted—bridging earth and sky rather than floating in cosmic space alone. This authentic connection outweighs concerns about the metaphor being overused.
James shared curated visual inspiration using Pinterest as a discovery tool rather than source for direct use (46:07). David will independently explore Pinterest and build his own mood boards, allowing organic visual preference development.
David gravitated toward specific aesthetic qualities:
Critical brand positioning constraint: David is more open to esoteric spiritual imagery than his clients, who may have "esoteric allergies" (52:15). The design must avoid common spiritual clichés—flowers of life, unicorns, angels—while maintaining professional appeal to performance-oriented leaders.
The session's strongest visual discovery was a natural landscape composition featuring circle, vertical horizon, and horizontal line elements in a Dao/yin-yang configuration communicated entirely through nature (58:16). This image perfectly balances David's spiritual depth with accessible natural imagery.
James introduced a custom Grasshopper tool enabling David to explore geometric symmetries, circle counts, and animations independently (01:02:17). The tool supports saving preset configurations and sharing exact specifications via codes or screenshots, facilitating iterative feedback.
[tag="grasshopper"]
David identified strong preferences for 5, 7, 9, and 12 circles (01:20:10):
The tool currently doesn't save color information, but David favors gold and white color schemes—gold for its premium spiritual feel, white for clarity (01:13:38).
[technology="Parametric Geometric Interfaces"]
James emphasized creating subtle altered-state awareness without explicit psychedelic references (01:05:24). The goal is inducing contemplative states in clients "without them realizing or associating it with what they think of psychedelics." This aligns with David's conscious clarity positioning while avoiding overly feminine or psychedelic impressions.
David acknowledged his own growth edge: becoming more assertive about authentic spiritual presence even if it turns away some clients (01:05:49). His background combining Native American vision quests with corporate consulting (Thyssen Krupp Steel) has evolved toward deeper authenticity. As James noted, "If you're not turning off some people, then you're not being bold enough" (01:09:29).
Copy development is integrated early with visual design rather than treated as separate sequential phases (34:14). James's homepage drafts already include both text and graphics to enable holistic conversations about mood and messaging.
David has primarily used his GPT tools in copywriter mode to capture authentic tone and energy for draft content (33:17). Next steps include James sharing editable Word documents of homepage copy for collaborative refinement, ensuring the voice remains genuinely David's while benefiting from professional polish.
This integrated approach prevents disjointed workflows and accelerates convergence on compelling narrative that unifies visual and verbal brand expression.
David requested flexible pacing to honor his current need for retreat and mental space (26:07). The timeline intentionally extends through year-end, allowing ideas to "marinate" rather than forcing rushed decisions during a period when David feels called to wind down and be quiet.
This approach balances productivity with presence, reducing burnout risk while maintaining project momentum. David shared a vulnerable reflection: while trying to market his presence-based offering, he sometimes catches himself "leading with pressure" rather than embodying the very qualities he teaches (01:25:38).
David articulated his evolution toward bold authenticity (01:05:49). His journey from cautiously hiding spirituality at Thyssen Krupp Steel to founding Light Creators Tribe represents progressive movement toward his authentic core as "a spiritual being here."
The brand aims to attract clients who resonate deeply with this spiritual leadership approach—even if it means excluding pragmatic leaders resistant to consciousness work. His unique offering bridges Native American vision quest experiences with corporate performance expertise, creating embodied leadership grounded in clarity rather than pressure.
Visual and verbal cues must thread this needle: inviting deep commitment from aligned clients without triggering esoteric resistance among business-focused founders. The design supports this vision by balancing subtle mysticism with professional aesthetics and clear messaging.
James demonstrated his personal AI-driven planner integrating chat, scheduling, and automatic calendar updates tailored to neurodivergent needs (01:27:22). The system allows conversational task management and evolves features through dialogue with AI agents.
[tag="claude"]
David uses Outlook, Calendly, and Booking Calendar but expressed interest in intelligent integration aligned with conscious leadership principles (01:32:59). His calendar management needs include:
James confirmed capability to build custom cloud agents understanding David's scheduling preferences and presence-led work rhythms (01:35:03). However, both agreed to position this as a future upsell opportunity after completing foundational brand and website development (01:35:32).
[technology="Collaboration Management Tools"][technology="Time-Aware Toolsets"]
The vision: creating a seamless intelligent assistant managing energy, task priorities, and client interactions in harmony with David's conscious business philosophy. This would extend the brand's promise of grounded leadership into daily operational support systems.
Share homepage drafts, mood boards, and Pinterest inspiration links with David
December 20, 2025
Provide editable homepage copy as Word document. Share Pinterest usage instructions and mood board editing guidance. Include link and instructions for interactive Grasshopper symmetry exploration tool.
Review homepage drafts and provide feedback on copy and visual direction
December 27, 2025
Explore Pinterest independently and gather image preferences following instinct. Experiment with interactive Grasshopper geometry tool and share screenshots of preferred configurations (slider settings). Edit and refine homepage copy after receiving Word document from James.
Iterate homepage mockups combining copy and visuals based on David's feedback
January 3, 2026
Create next iteration of homepage designs integrating David's visual preferences from Pinterest and Grasshopper tool exploration. Balance mountain/grounding imagery with cosmic elements. Incorporate feedback on copy refinements. Focus on black and white compositions with natural (non-AI) qualities, geometric forms interacting with landscapes, and threshold imagery between known and unknown.
Use WhatsApp as primary communication channel during seminar week
December 23, 2025
David will be unreliable on email during upcoming seminar week. WhatsApp preferred for timely communication. Maintain asynchronous communication as default with availability for brief alignment calls when needed.
Visual identity development session focused on establishing brand direction for conscious leadership positioning. Key elements include balancing cosmic/spiritual imagery with grounded, embodied leadership metaphors. Mountain imagery identified as primary grounding symbol. Pinterest mood board exploration initiated. Interactive Grasshopper geometry tool introduced for co-creative design iteration. Strong preferences identified: 5, 7, 9, 12 circle configurations; gold and white color schemes. Critical brand constraint: accessible to performance-oriented leaders while maintaining spiritual depth without common esoteric clichés.
Brand evolution phase complete. New direction features modern geometric logo with organic flowing shapes designed for dimensional motion. Deep slate blue replaces black, earthy green and brown elements ground the brand. HK Grotesque typography selected. Five-pointed logo geometry explored reflecting David's numerology (five core factors, life-giving energy) with implied sixth point in center (hive mind, crystalline innovation). Gold gradient variations in development. Color palette maintains flexibility for hero sections (gold) vs social media (monochromatic). Social media templates created with dark marine blue and lighter gradient options, accommodating Instagram portrait/cowboy shot formats.
Homepage drafts blending copy with preliminary graphics established. Hero messaging focuses on 'leadership from presence, not pressure' targeting conscious founders at transformational thresholds. Visual system developing around vertical/horizontal lines with circles symbolizing presence and leadership. Integration of mountain imagery as grounding metaphor to balance cosmic spaciousness with earth connection. Black and white compositions with natural (non-AI) qualities preferred. Standout image discovered: natural landscape with circle, vertical horizon, and horizontal line in Dao/yin-yang configuration. 6-8 core page designs in development with integrated copywriting approach. German-primary content strategy during proof-of-concept phase. Landing Page architecture refined: LP1 serves as initial touchpoint from social/podcast discovery; LP2 delivers quiz results with data visualization and introduces email course (now identical for English and German with both getting email course access). LP3 copy due Friday. Seven customized LP2 variations based on quiz results (logical visionary, quiet powerhouse, etc.) with same structure but personalized content (53:30). lightcreators.com functions as focused conversion funnel (quiz-centric), davidliebnau.com as broader personal brand site (49:52). Mallorca photo suite available for incorporation (57:50). March 1st launch deadline established (47:31). Copy development substantially advanced: LP1 (one-on-one offer) English & German complete except testimonials; LP2 (email course) complete; LP3 (group offer 'The Threshold') English & German complete; Resonance offer complete; davidliebnau.com homepage ready; podcast page nearly complete by Thursday; webinar waitlist page complete and in production (26:42-35:27). Design drafts now shared as Webflow preview links via WhatsApp for asynchronous review (46:09).
Integrated copywriting development for Light Creators brand. Hero messaging emphasizes 'leadership from presence, not pressure' targeting conscious founders at transformational thresholds. Copy development integrated early with visual design rather than sequential phases. David using GPT tools and Claude in copywriter mode with professional copywriter Marquis to capture authentic tone. Collaborative refinement process via editable Word documents ensuring voice remains genuinely David's while benefiting from professional polish. Current status: 80%+ complete across all pages (26:42). Landing Page 1 (one-on-one offer) English & German complete except testimonial section still needed for production readiness (56:59). LP2 (email course) English & German complete, not relevant for James. LP3 (group offer 'The Threshold') English & German complete including headline 'They respect you, they don't commit'. LP2 has seven customized variations based on quiz results (logical visionary, quiet powerhouse, etc.) with same structure but personalized content (53:30). Resonance offer (low-ticket product) English & German complete. davidliebnau.com homepage English & German ready to produce. Podcast relaunch page German nearly complete, final tweaks by Thursday (56:59). Webinar waitlist page complete (26:42).
Future technology integration: AI-driven calendar and task management system aligned with conscious leadership principles. Would integrate Outlook, Calendly, and Booking Calendar with intelligent scheduling respecting presence priorities. Features include conversational task management, protecting mornings for deep work, ensuring adequate breaks, and embedding presence-led work rhythms rather than pure productivity optimization. Custom cloud agents would understand David's scheduling preferences and energy management. Positioned as future upsell after foundational brand/website completion.
00:00:08
David Liebnau: Hello? Hello? Firefly. Note taker.
00:02:08
James: Sa. It.
00:07:22
David Liebnau: Against Enchpant Ghana. Morgan.
00:09:01
James: Sam. It. Sam.
00:14:21
David Liebnau: Hey, James, I'm waiting in the Ms. Teams room. Are you joining? Hey, James, I'm waiting in our Ms. Teams room. Are you coming in?
00:24:46
James: Sample. Hello? Hello. Hi. I'm sorry to keep you.
00:26:07
David Liebnau: Right, well, your Firefly note taker was so much on the point, I was almost shocked by its punctuality. And then I got stressed. But then I realized, okay, he's not here. You know, I'm very much slowed down today anyway, so. Yeah, shit happens. Worry, no bad feelings. Let's see, you know, what is really essential for today because. You know, my system actually wants to. Wind down and be as quiet as possible. Yet this is, I guess, a time or a status which may last a few weeks. I'm, I mean, I really feel called to retreat and that I, I want to balance that with, of course, what needs to be done to get you going. But in a way it was just fine for me that you weren't there on time. So this time, all good. I don't though. I don't want to nevertheless though, extend the session long than needed today because we have also guests coming for dinner and yeah, I may need some time in between. But let's see, you know what needs to be clarified today. And I don't know how like strict you are in terms of reserve time. You, you want to like devote to one ones with me. But if we can make today like a shorter call and next time maybe a longer one, I think that would enhance our overall productivity because again, I feel a little drained mentally today.
00:28:10
James: Yeah, no problem. I love to be. Kind of responsive to the energy available. So if we need to hop on an extra call when you're feeling energized and inspired, I'm happy to make time. Even if you text me like, hey, do you happen to have time today? I'd love to dig in. Happy to see if I can, you know, make that, make things like that work last minute or make the next session longer. Things like that. And today mainly I wanted to just share with you what I've been working on. Get your reflections on it and sense if I'm moving in the right direction or not. There's not a whole lot to do.
00:28:58
David Liebnau: Yeah. And so are you. Are we or are you envisioning to share like dummy visuals, like first screens? Right. I'm tempted because again, I feel a little like. Blurred Anyway, Today, I wonder whether I, or I would like to ask my beloved. I told you about Julie, right? Whether she would like to join us. No chance whether that would fit her schedule. But I, I would like to ask her if that's okay for you and you think that would make sense. What do you think?
00:29:46
James: Yeah, I guess, sure.
00:29:47
David Liebnau: She's my, you know, she's the head of design in the light creators tribe. So I, I want to bring her in if feasible. Hang on, let me try. All right, great. Jimmy. No, no, good timing for her with the guests coming and she's preparing salad and all that. But I guess you can share with me in an offline version anyway, the drafts. Right. And I can share it with her at a later time then, right?
00:31:06
James: Yes.
00:31:07
David Liebnau: All right, then. Let's see with the two of us what resonates and what I can feed back to you. Great.
00:31:14
James: Awesome. So today. There'S a few different things I want to share which are meant to be kind of seeds to plant in our collective consciousness here. To start a more visual conversation around what's going to work best for you and your brand. You shared so much great stuff in that branding questionnaire. You win the award for making it the most number of pages.
00:31:48
David Liebnau: Obviously. I mean, I, I didn't do it all by myself. Right. I had the helmet. Two of my virtual assistants. I've been dialoguing with my personal business conscious business navigator, which is filled with my astrology data, my gene key profile and human design profile transition information, and then my copyright assistant and website designer GPT or a strategic something advisor. And then the three of us, we had a dialogue and you've been in there as well, of course, with all your questions and. Yeah, yeah. And then, I mean, did you mention in the beginning, just a few questions, I think. Right. You, you said that like. And then I realized, oh my goodness, it's been 50 questions and then 50 pages and then I still wasn't done. And, and then at the end it, yeah, been 70 pages. I, I hope, yeah, I hope you got the information you needed. Basically.
00:33:02
James: Yeah, no, there's a lot of really good stuff. It makes it easy. And it, and I like the way that the AIs organize things, you know, 73. I wasn't a lot, but there's a.
00:33:17
David Liebnau: Lot of white space and I mean, one thing I was having in mind and I didn't ask you because I then made up my mind on my own. But now for future. Sharings I mean my. Marketing GPT can switch between researcher mode where it's more analyzing stuff and copywriter mode. So I've been switching between these modes and I wasn't sure what. What you need whether it's. It's copywriting or researcher. So I've been switching back and forth because I mean you. You're not creating copy yet for me, right? Or you have you been. I mean what's the. Your take on the copy production?
00:34:14
James: Yeah, you'll see. You know, I like to. To think of it holistically. We actually have a draft of the homepage with copy and graphics and feeling and it's. It's a starting place to start the conversation. But I'm definitely already looking at. Looking at words. Because there's so much. You know. I don't want to go through all that and try to just focus on graphics and then come back to it for words. Yeah, it's like it's all in there together.
00:34:49
David Liebnau: Exactly. Therefore I, I choose more often than the copywriter mode because I thought that transmits more that the tonality and the energy or. Or frequency I wanna. I wanna put out. So yeah, I'm curious what. How you've been processing all this information and what do you have for me? Show me. I'm curious now my friend here.
00:35:18
James: Great. Awesome. Let me just bring these up. So let's start with these. Homepage drafts because you are curious and these are. Like I said, a simple starting place to. To begin the conversation around mood, feeling, aesthetic. But we're already playing with. With words and playing with some. Some animation and some graphics. Let's see. I can share. This window. Are you seeing my screen now? Yes. Cool. And you're seeing this. Cool. I can share these as well. As links with you. My. I've been doing some other things on my site and it's added some extra. Ignore these black boxes for now and the lines. But. Yeah thinking of landing on the page a lot of blank space. This version has no graphics yet just. Just text. I really like the mention in the document of the. The vertical line, the horizontal line and the circle. We definitely want to play with that. And you talk a lot about presence. And said something along these lines in the document. Leadership from. From presence. Not not pressure. I thought that was a good candidate for hero text for founders at the threshold a field where conscious founders reconnect with themselves, reclaim their clarity and step into the grounded leadership their future requires. Journey. Learn more then the copy kind of.
00:37:43
David Liebnau: So and help me to. To understand when you say I should ignore that there is a black box. What. What. What should I instead then envision as this black box?
00:37:58
James: Let's look at this. We can look at this version. All right. This one has a little more graphics, and it's interactive mandala in the background. Just the start of a logo up there. And instead of a black box, this would just kind of be floating on the.
00:38:23
David Liebnau: Hang on, hang on. As you know, I want to share with you right away one, like, impression which, if you scroll up again, where I see the, like the. It looked to me it looked like stars. Yeah, that one. Hang on here. So. Before. Before we saw those. Like, moving.
00:38:54
James: Hot.
00:38:55
David Liebnau: Dots. I liked it a little more because now what for me comes to my mind is. And it has some coolness to it yet there's a difficult with that. So what comes to my mind is that I'm looking into the sky now. Right. Sky is good in terms of. Space. But the kind of presence I want to foster is very much grounded and connected to Earth. So I'm missing, like, if we think about the vertical line, I. We have a lot of, like, spaciousness in terms of connection to the cosmic. But I'm missing the. The grounding to Earth. And. And. And again. Yeah, it's too much vertical upward, too little downward. Connecting with source. And earth. You know what I mean? Too much as if I'm laying on the. If to me, this looks like I'm laying on a. On a maybe meadow or anywhere flat on the ground on the earth. And I look up in the sky, and that's cool. Yet that's not the type of bridging between sky and earth. Which manifestation is all about which the central line stands for or vertical line stands for. So we need more feeling of being connected with Earth or more precisely, the feet on the ground or my rooted connection with Earth in addition to the vast open space of the sky.
00:40:59
James: Yeah, great. That's great feedback. And I'm actually. Working on this. This document that I can share later as well. For kind of getting more specific about possible. Points of visual inspiration coming from your.
00:41:30
David Liebnau: And. And thanks for like, reminding me of. Of that here. One way, indeed, of course, to. Symbolize the grounding I'm speaking of. Might be a mountain. Yeah. And then, like, to. To illustrate the feeling of. I'm standing on the peak of a mountain. Right. I mean, although, of course, the mountain metaphor has been so much used and in business, I feel. I mean, like, strategy maps are so often utilizing this walk on a mountain type of Metaphor, but it's strong and it came up to me when I was asked in one of your. Questions what I'm envisioning when feeling into that. And, and I mean this is very deeply connected to my vision quests I've done. And, and that was on the top of a mountain. So. Yeah, so I agree. I don't know. I have ambivalent. I mean energetically I, I resonate stronger with a mountain. And that second part I've shared in terms of oh, it's such a worn out metaphor is more my mind telling a bit critique on that. But energetically. It speaks to me. The mountain. Yeah.
00:43:09
James: Yeah. We can definitely find a way to bring those in and play with that and start the journey from a place of more groundedness. Maybe elsewhere in the site or the page. We want to orient more to the sky.
00:43:28
David Liebnau: You know, I mean just to speaking of my. Like methodology and point of war or type of work. You know, in order to create that. Ability to breathe out. Right. For a high performer, they need to work with or recognize that in a way gravity is their best friend. Gravity together with the outbreath. Yeah. Letting go, sinking into the body, reconnecting, allowing the stress energy which pulls us up to sink down into embodied. Leadership, into embodied presence. So that's another shorter version of what I'm trying to communicate here. It needs body embodiment. Right. And currently we just see space. I'm missing embodiment in this. Yeah. And that brings us of course to the question of pictures. I mean as you've noticed, I haven't had yet time and inspiration to. Look at pictures and I'm wondering about that like task of creating, reviewing pictures. Could you also provide pictures as a starting point through I don't know, sources and make suggestions or is that definitely in my like part of the game play field? How do, how to say playground. Playground.
00:45:19
James: Yeah, no, of course I've started over here. So these again are starting places.
00:45:31
David Liebnau: Move up, move up or first line. I want to. Yeah, hang on. Stay here. I like to look at the mountain. Just, you know, energetically which like catches my attention is this four. First line, first row, fourth from right to the right. That one. I don't know why, but.
00:46:05
James: Yeah, this is very cool.
00:46:07
David Liebnau: I like that. Although. Yeah, yeah. Although of course when again when my mind starts to think about that, I. I don't really. Oh yeah. I don't know. But this style also this ideas you might love or now, second. What is it? Column from the left. Second row. No, no, no, go back. Left, left, go left. Stop. Yeah, this one. I also like. So what. What, like, platforms do you use for. Or how. How did you create this selection of war pictures?
00:47:08
James: This is on Pinterest. Have you Pinterest?
00:47:15
David Liebnau: Maybe. Not really, though. I think my. My partner is using it. But I'm. I'm not a regular user of Pinterest. But it's an open platform, at least for. For starting. Right.
00:47:33
James: Yeah, it's a great place to get inspiration. You know, most images we find on. On Pinterest, we. We can't use on the site, but it's more as a place to see what. What images do we want to create for ourselves.
00:47:50
David Liebnau: Right, right.
00:47:51
James: Inspiration.
00:47:53
David Liebnau: Okay, so I will go to Pinterest and then. And then type in certain, like, cues. Right. And then it shows me.
00:48:05
James: Yeah, yeah, I can share. I'll share some instructions along with this mood board document that identifies some different. Aesthetics. And I'll put some instructions on the top about how to.
00:48:23
David Liebnau: Yeah.
00:48:24
James: How to use Pinterest and some other locations you might want to explore as well.
00:48:29
David Liebnau: All right. Yeah.
00:48:32
James: And. And I'll share this board, which is. You know, definitely things within a theme.
00:48:41
David Liebnau: Yeah. And also just, I mean, like, without really knowing why, but what. What catches here my attention is the right. Column. That one. Middle. Middle roll. Yeah, that one. That looks cool too.
00:49:01
James: Yeah, very cool.
00:49:07
David Liebnau: Now, if we would have here, in addition to the vertical line, the horizontal line as well. Right. We would have the vertical and the horizontal and the circle.
00:49:20
James: Mm. Great.
00:49:23
David Liebnau: Yeah, that speaks to me. This is also interesting here.
00:49:38
James: Yeah, that's what I love about Pinterest is you can click on something you like and then you find so much.
00:49:47
David Liebnau: Yeah, yeah. Also this. Yeah, Hang on. If you go up, right, to the right. Up one, up. Stop here. Double click. Yeah, double. No, no. The. The man on the sand. Do you know what. What that is? That's also inspiring, I think.
00:50:14
James: Yeah. I notice you liking these kind of large. Geometries interacting with natural landscape.
00:50:27
David Liebnau: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. But I mean, I can. And I guess you want me to just go with, like, instinct here, right? I. I don't need to be too smart about it. Just gathering first impressions. Right.
00:50:49
James: Yep.
00:50:50
David Liebnau: Yeah, yeah. I was thinking about that too, but it didn't have such a strong pull than the others. And. But the one above. Hang on above, to the right. Top, right corner. The. The fur one. Yeah, that one. Yeah, that. That is also cool. Maybe for the, you know, the retreat in Finland.
00:51:23
James: Mm. Yeah. I love to play with symmetry. You know, taking a natural image and mirroring it in different ways. It creates. It, create it. It kind of reveals the mystical nature of ordinary reality. Like a Rorschach inkblot.
00:51:51
David Liebnau: Also the one to the right. The other greenish landscape with a circle on top or. Yeah, that one. Yet. Oh, and the one with a ferry boat down there. That one.
00:52:12
James: Yeah, that's also cool.
00:52:15
David Liebnau: But. That might, I mean, you know, here's the thing. I might be more open to esoteric des. Spiritual imagery. Than my clients are, you know, because. Some of them have like a little bit of an esoteric elegy we got to be aware of. Yeah. So we, we. We must avoid. Or we should avoid too much. Oh, oh, but, oh, hang on. No, no, go back. No, down. Slow, slow. So, so no, hang on. Slowly. To the left, to the left. Left, left. That one.
00:53:10
James: This one here?
00:53:11
David Liebnau: Yes. Yeah, so. As I said. Some. And the one to the right, second row from the top. No, right, more right. That one. That's like the threshold between the known and the unknown. Right, that's that development edge. That's. That's a cool one. I, I like that. So, you know, the edge. I'm very interested in this edge between the known and the unknown, the capability and the cape and the incapability, the life and dead past and new, etc. And again. The challenge will be to transmit like conscious clarity without. Stepping into or without activating esoteric allergy effects within those performance oriented leader minds.
00:54:30
James: Yeah.
00:54:33
David Liebnau: Go to the right. Middle row, right. Column. Yeah, to the right. That one.
00:54:43
James: Yes.
00:54:46
David Liebnau: But no, the posture of the man is too crouched forward, not cool enough. Second row is second column from the left is probably better. Up, left. Yeah, that one. Yeah, that, that is a better posture. Better Zen. Yeah.
00:55:10
James: So simple meditators and imagery is okay.
00:55:18
David Liebnau: You know, that's the thing I'm more open to that type of. Then my clients are potentially. I, I don't know yet whether that's okay, but I'm just responding out of intuitive attraction here, not strategic thinking. Really. Yeah, yeah, but I mean, this type of edges, as we see at the right side of the picture is also interesting. Also the man who's walking on this white edge in the middle of the ocean. It's also interesting. Middle. Pretty much in the. Yeah, middle. Column, lower row, you know. Yeah, down. That one. That's also interesting, I think. But probably a Little bit. A little. I mean. Obviously weird because walking on water. But yeah, I guess that's too like. Psychedelic. Yeah. You know, I'm, I, I, I don't mind but again, my customers mind may mind but hang one, one more second. What is it? Column from left, low row. So little left and down and one more down. That one. That's also cool. Yeah, I like that more than the pretty like obviously AI generated. But that could be real here. And it's still playing with black and white. But it's not as. Constructed or artificial than the man who was walking on water between the ocean. Right. So more natural than too much. What's the word? Psycho. What? What did I say? You know, what's the word? Yeah, let's avoid too much psychedelic associations. Rather. Natural pictures than psychedelic pictures. But the slight component of. Yeah, surprising tweak might be feasible but not too obvious psychedelic. Thing. Yeah.
00:58:12
James: Yeah.
00:58:16
David Liebnau: Hang on. Now go back to what we've saw before. Left, second row from the left. Low one. One down. That one. That also speaks to me. Oh, I love that. I love that a lot. Look at this. I mean there we have the circle. We have somehow the vertical horizon, the horizontal line as the horizont. And almost like a. Dao Yin yang kind of shape, but all communicated through nature. Right?
00:59:02
James: Yeah. So that's great.
00:59:05
David Liebnau: That's indeed cool. That's my best, I think put a heart on it if you can. That's, I think the best we've collected so far.
00:59:19
James: Great.
00:59:21
David Liebnau: Not the coloring necessarily, but probably we can color that. Right. Or you can do that. Right. Like make it more bluish or goldenish.
00:59:32
James: Right? Yeah. Well, I don't think we. Have the rights to that particular image, but I can.
00:59:42
David Liebnau: Right.
00:59:42
James: But I mean that and that kind of thing. If.
00:59:51
David Liebnau: We figure like this picture is so good, we want that, I mean, then I might be willing to purchase that. Right. Speaking of rights, I have no idea what. Would be the cost of it, but I guess it wouldn't be a fortune, right?
01:00:16
James: Yeah, I'm not sure. It depends sometimes. Sometimes you can find the originator and sometimes not. But. Mostly pretty good at finding, you know, finding the one that we can buy or the one that we can use for free. That's, yeah, that's very similar.
01:00:34
David Liebnau: Before. Or you move down and there was some other. If you scroll down a little more and you went somewhere. Yeah, scroll down a little more. So, yeah, one more stop here and here. Now to the left. Left, left, left Stop, there's no back. This one. Yeah, click that on. You know, I like that because of its like hope in dark times kind of quality. Like also the one right to it in the middle with this golden. Yeah, that one is probably too, too cliche I guess though isn't.
01:01:26
James: Depends how we use it. I really like these colors for your brand.
01:01:33
David Liebnau: Yeah. Yeah. Also. Yeah, indeed. Like the. Picture to the right top. Right. Right, right, right. More more. Right, that one.
01:01:52
James: Yes. Yeah.
01:02:02
David Liebnau: Yeah. Okay, so now we've collected already some pictures. I gave you some feedback in terms of the first like hero shot. What else would make sense now?
01:02:17
James: Yeah. So I'll share this board with you. You can find your own things. I'll start to play with these kind of images in the mockup. And then I have also created. Another thing for you to play with. And. This, Remember we played with these geometries and Grasshopper last time. I made a little tool that you can use to explore different. Symmetries and geometries just to, you know, at some point spend some time with us and see what it may provoke for you. Everything is. Editable and you may find some interesting forms in here. We can put those cross lines and then we can even animate it and have things move. And.
01:03:46
David Liebnau: Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, James, what do you think about this. Caution I've mentioned in terms of psychedelic forms? Because I mean this almost reminds me of my. Last trip I did, you know, using. Whatever. DMT or ayahuasca. Magic mushrooms. Again, I'm very open to that, but I don't want to necessarily put out that association tied to my. Brand.
01:04:38
James: Yeah, well, I think we want to avoid standard shapes like the flower of life. You know. And we have some presets up here. Or things that are like kind of overtly.
01:04:59
David Liebnau: Yeah, but I, I, I mean, I hear you, I, I, so I, as you put out on top the circles of light. So that is my thing. I gonna, I gonna play with that to find a vision or a visualization of my inner vision of the circle of light. Right. So that's the purpose and yeah, that makes sense.
01:05:24
James: And keep in mind, I think that we do ideally want to induce a psychotropic state in your. Clients without them. Realizing or associating it with what they think of psychedelics and you know, subversively.
01:05:49
David Liebnau: Yeah. And just for your information, I think it's also important for me to share with you. I guess, in terms of my own personal development, edge I think I'm asked to. Therefore, I need to, like, retreat and listen deeply to. Like. Yeah. Be more assertive with what I want to stand for. And if that, like, creates rejections in some, so be it. So it should. Others can therefore, like, really commit to what I have to offer at the core. And in the past, you know, when me. When I was working with. Or here's a funny story, you know, so I. I started running workshops in 95 when I came back from my Native American studies and pilgrimage and vision quests and survival skill trainings. And then I was already like, I've. I've been in yoga ashrams, meditated and all that. And then I went to. As my first employment, my first project as a consultant. I was. I went to Thyssen Krupp Steel, like, steel production in, you know, the heart of Rusty Bell Germany. And I've noticed before I went there, I. I thought, well, I got to be careful of not being perceived as too spiritual because my job was there to do time management and quality management. Right. And then I've noticed, you know, spirituality is not by far the issue. There. Was already suspicious for those people there if I was perceived as psychological, if the content I was producing, like, was perceived as being psychological. So, you know, that was the starting point I came from. And then step by step, I went back into more authenticity and really stepping up for what I am at the core as a. Spiritual being here. And of course, me going out of my employment two years ago in order to start the Light Creators Tribe was. Wasn't a movement I did because of that call to. To go more into depth. Yeah. And bring in more consciousness in my work. And so therefore, as I said, probably we got to bring in some of those. Yeah. And I will play with that. So. But again, we. We shouldn't be too. To. But I know you aren't like two. Two. Yeah. Stereotypish.
01:09:06
James: Yeah.
01:09:06
David Liebnau: Like. Like you said. No. No flowers of life. Right. But. Other things they haven't seen yet.
01:09:15
James: Rainbows. Yeah.
01:09:16
David Liebnau: Yeah. And no. No unicorns. Yeah. And no angels.
01:09:22
James: If you're not. If you're not turning off some people, then you're not being bold enough, you know.
01:09:29
David Liebnau: Exactly.
01:09:29
James: And true enough to. To what you're doing. You want to find the right people to work with. And they're not necessarily the folks that have. Have done mushrooms, but, you know, maybe ideally they're. They're people that maybe have had a mushroom experience.
01:09:45
David Liebnau: Definitely. Actually nowadays, I mean, especially young entrepreneurs, a lot of them have experiences with. Substances. And. That opens up, of course, a lot for those people that then notice, okay, there's more to it than just the material thing. And that is then, of course, my usp indeed, that I have something to offer which goes beyond the material or materialistic view. And yeah, I think we understand what, like niche and bridge we gotta find. And I just wanna. Make you aware of maybe at times I do need some. Reconfirmation that it's time for me to really show up as who I am and in the circle of light vision of mine is definitely something I want to put out there. And yeah, thanks for. Sharing this. I mean, yeah, so you can share a link to that tool here, to me. And then I'm. Yeah, I just play around with this or will I get a little bit of a manual as well, how to do this? No, I just.
01:11:14
James: Yeah, play.
01:11:15
David Liebnau: Right.
01:11:17
James: I'll put a link in the. In the mood board doc as well. And just you play with the sliders. You can animate them or not.
01:11:26
David Liebnau: And. And if I find preferences, shall I then just make a screenshot or how. How shall I share my temporary results or preferences?
01:11:37
James: Yes, great question. So screenshots are great. And then I also built a little way for you to save. Presets up here. And so I'm gonna tweak this guy here. Maybe we'll rotate like that. And I'll say, you know, give it a name.
01:11:59
David Liebnau: Aha.
01:12:01
James: And I can save that. And it's telling me it's saved that there, but then it's also saved this little code. And if you share that code with me. You can. I can recreate this exactly as. As you have. The only thing is right now it's not saving the colors, but I'm gonna modify that, make a new version.
01:12:32
David Liebnau: But if I would do a screenshot, including with this, like, dashboard to the right, that should be sufficient for you too, right? Because that might be easier for me.
01:12:46
James: Yeah, that's probably easier. And that's. That's fine too. If I can see those numbers, then I can make it.
01:12:52
David Liebnau: Exactly, exactly. That's what I mean. So you got to see those numbers, right?
01:12:56
James: Yeah.
01:12:58
David Liebnau: Okay.
01:12:58
James: And if you use. I built a little random button down here. And if you're scrolling through and you see something that you like, and then you want to go back, you can actually undo the randomization.
01:13:12
David Liebnau: Okay. And then play it or adapt it from there. Right? Okay.
01:13:19
James: Yeah. And it also does random colors. You know, you might just want. White. That's Fine too. But I thought it was fun to be able to play with these.
01:13:34
David Liebnau: How about gold? Do we have gold? I like gold.
01:13:38
James: Of course. Yeah.
01:13:46
David Liebnau: Gold and white. The darker gold A little more. Yeah, something like that. Okay, James, share that link with me. I gonna play with this whenever I feel like this is the time for it.
01:14:10
James: Great.
01:14:11
David Liebnau: Or you play and I'd say yes or no. Whatever comes up earlier.
01:14:19
James: Yes, I'm definitely gonna keep playing with this.
01:14:23
David Liebnau: And I mean you've been obviously playing while we spoke and there were some. Spoke more to me than others. Maybe if you want I can try to direct you what I've liked. And that was like. Hang on. I draw you something and I show you. On a piece of paper and then you can. Build on that. So something more in this type. Yeah. As a starting point.
01:15:11
James: Yeah. So we have eight. Eight circles there.
01:15:15
David Liebnau: Or it might be nine. Nine. Nine, I guess is better than eight, but larger. Yeah. So you. You know, for me. Yeah. Though. Something like that. Yeah. Yes, yes. I guess that's. Yeah, something like that. And. No, no, no. More inner thing. Inner clarity. There's something like that. And then maybe could. Could. Could we bring in here the vertical and horizontal axis as well?
01:15:59
James: We definitely can. Not in the way it's configured right now, but I can. I can add that.
01:16:05
David Liebnau: Yeah. But something like that, you know, fairly simple, but probably it's too simple. I don't know you. But so I don't know. This is. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I. I'll need to play more with that. But this. Yeah, something like. Like this in. In this. Type. You know, the. The vision came to me when I was doing a facility and participating in a. In a pipe ceremony. Native American pipe ceremony. So there were people sitting in. In a circle and. Yeah, the. The image is like dots of light sitting together in. In the universe sharing a. A praying circle or pipe ceremony.
01:17:06
James: Wonderful.
01:17:06
David Liebnau: Yeah. So something like that. That's.
01:17:09
James: Yeah.
01:17:10
David Liebnau: But maybe even the. The dots or the circles. The. In the outer line could also be. Like filled. Not just with. With lines, but could they also be filled? I don't know. Maybe it's. It's getting too. Too blunt then. But.
01:17:37
James: And well, this. This tool is meant to not necessarily produce, you know, the logo or the graphic that we're going to use, but more inspire different things and let you play with. Play with different symmetries and see what resonates and you know, tell me if you notice like, you know, seven feels better than. Yeah. And nine feels better than 10.
01:18:05
David Liebnau: Let me know you're in a quick. Slow down, slow down. Reduced number. Yeah, hang on here. Seven. Hang on. Seven may do seven. Yeah, seven is also cool. Yeah, yeah, I like seven. I want to avoid that. It looks too much like a flower though. You know, that would be too. Female. Ish. I guess I don't want to have the flower impression. Yeah. Five. Oh, five.
01:18:43
James: Show.
01:18:43
David Liebnau: Show me the five. Since we have like one of my fav. My main concept is this five. We have this in the Allure program. We have the five factor model. So. Yeah, five factors. And actually I had in my presentation I had like out of the five factors you have now on the outer line, have one in the inner line and then the four circling around the one in the center. So that would be four in the outer and one in the core. Yeah, that was exactly. But I mean that was for the five factor model. Yes, something like that is interesting. Also of course with this synergies or overlapping things that again now with when. When we think about the five factor model. Not the circles of light. Yeah, yeah, but that is. Speaks to me too.
01:20:09
James: Great.
01:20:10
David Liebnau: And Yeah, I guess 5, 7 and 9 speaks more than other numbers.
01:20:24
James: Cool.
01:20:25
David Liebnau: Although when it comes to seminar participants, I. I love groups with 12 people because then you can make three groups of four and groups of three and two, six groups and one on ones. You can't do one once in an uneven number. But maybe when it comes to similar didactics or methodology, it's different than when it comes to visualization of things.
01:21:01
James: 12 is my favorite number, which was 12.
01:21:06
David Liebnau: 12. Yeah, see? Yeah, try 12 then. Maybe 12 was cool too.
01:21:12
James: This is 12.
01:21:14
David Liebnau: Yeah, 12 is more abundant, isn't it, than 9? 12 is good too. You're right. I like 12 too. Yeah, 12 is good. I like that one. That is cool too. Yeah.
01:21:34
James: Great.
01:21:36
David Liebnau: Okay. Anything else, James?
01:21:42
James: I think that's all for today. I'll share these things so you can kind of spend. Sit with them in your own time and find some more visual inspiration to share. I'm going to keep working on iterating mock ups. You can also check out the copy on the homepage of the mock ups. I'll share and see how it resonates. And if you'd like, I can also put it into a word doc for you so that you can play with the working copy yourself. And yeah, we'll. We'll keep moving along and making this happen.
01:22:24
David Liebnau: Yes, yes. I try to. Improve my visual inside here impression. I look a little Blurred and whatever. But it's too late. I gu. Anyway, I'm tired now. When shall we meet again?
01:22:43
James: Good question. When. When works well for you.
01:22:49
David Liebnau: Well, as. I don't know at this point. I mean, is it what? What like from your work? I mean. Yeah, from your. Like preferred speed of further development. What. What might be a good time for you, for us to review status and check in again and keep things moving while. While. While, you know, from my side. I don't. I. At this point in time, I, I don't feel like pushing it really. I, I know I'm happy for everything which goes out of my calendar. Less is more for me currently. So if we let it wait and marinate until early January or in between the years, that would be fine too. If you want, we can create another touch point prior to Christmas. I like to. Ask you really to let me know what you need and how your schedule is and. We can also leave it open and you come back to me if you need something or whatever. What's your preference?
01:24:28
James: Let's do that. Let's leave it open and we can check in with each other asynchronously. Via email or WhatsApp. And if we do feel like hopping on it.
01:24:42
David Liebnau: Sorry, but let's do WhatsApp because sometimes I don't have a. You know, like next Monday and Tuesday. I run a seminar and I may not check emails, but I gonna have a look at WhatsApp. So if something urgent is coming up or needs my attention, you reach me better through WhatsApp than email.
01:25:13
James: Okay, wonderful. Well, we can check in there and if we want to hop on a, a brief call to review something or align around something, happy to make time for that and let's see what the, the process needs as we move along and make progress.
01:25:31
David Liebnau: Sounds good, Sounds good, Very good.
01:25:34
James: Yeah. Leading from presence and not pressure.
01:25:38
David Liebnau: Exactly, exactly. That's, you know, that was a little bit of a joke and a bit of a humbling experience. I also like to share with you. My personal development edge is that a part of me sometimes kicks in which want to get things done. When I was working with your document, I wanted to have that done one day. Then it turned out to be longer than needed. And then I was trying to work on it the way. Then the next day while I was. On a regional train to my personal somatic coach and. Here I was again in a way myself, you know, leading with pressure, trying to market the presence offer, you know, and this is Sometimes really humbling to see myself in. In in still this achiever pushing mode while. Trying to. To manifest this new type of business. You know, I, I speak of. That's very humbling really. So therefore I thank you for allowing space here for us. I need this equally not only my clients, I, I need this too. Yeah.
01:27:22
James: Wonderful. Great. I'm not sure if this is relevant or not, but I just wanted to share real quick. There's something else I'm working on still sharing my screen. I'll share Safari over here. So. Always navigating a large to do list and often a pretty full schedule. And I'm never satisfied with any project management tools that. That I find. I've tried them all. And so I've set out to make my own. And I figured out how to integrate an agent into this task management tool I'm working on. So I can literally have a conversation with my task list and I can ask it to. Plan out the rest of my day for what I have to do and it will schedule things into my calendar and update my Google Calendar and. And if I want to add a new feature on here I can. This has 15 hours instead of 15 minutes. I can just you know, chat with a different bot and that feature will show up pretty soon.
01:29:03
David Liebnau: Yeah but you know for my new concept development I'm already trying to get my head around notion and airtable. I'm. I won't start with another project management or time management. Assistant at this point in time. I have as I said I have my Conscious Business Navigator GPT and it told me for example today you know, it's time to free up your calendar and really go out on a walk and do some exercises. And that was very helpful. I mean I, I am fairly structured through Outlook and. I guess I rather work on my inner structure in terms of. Looking at that pattern which sometimes again pushes instead of. Allow. Presence. Right. That's for me currently way more important than another planning tool. But thanks for sharing. I hope it works nice for you.
01:30:32
James: I wasn't actually thinking it would be helpful for you. I built it for me and my particular. Neurodivergent mind. I just love that I can have a tool now that I can have a conversation with and that will evolve for me over time for somebody else. You know, everybody needs something different but the tools especially.
01:31:01
David Liebnau: It is tempting to combine it. So would you know how to. Create out of my or out of my like Conscious Business Navigator Custom GPT assistant, how to bring in that intelligence into a planning tool such as Google something, Google Calendar or Outlook. Would you know how to do that?
01:31:35
James: Yes, we can do pretty much anything now. I'll share this.
01:31:53
David Liebnau: Well, now you're gone.
01:32:11
James: Oopsie.
01:32:11
David Liebnau: Hello. That was funny. We can do pretty much everything now. Yeah. Including pressing the wrong button and then.
01:32:21
James: Not open a new tab.
01:32:24
David Liebnau: So what is it that you wanted to show me?
01:32:27
James: This. I've been working on this page that. Gives the outline of the different technologies we're working on building for our clients. And we can integrate intelligence and automation and collaboration management tools, Time aware tool sets into anything we're building. Here.
01:32:56
David Liebnau: I have a.
01:32:59
James: A development timeline. You know, I created this.
01:33:02
David Liebnau: Yeah, I mean here's, here's like a potential need. So I, I, I'm currently. Having it all stored in my Outlook calendar. Right. And I have to synchronize it with my calendly calendar tool where my own clients or leads can book calendars and I'm also having booking calendar, if that is known to you. So that's a collective. Schedule. Tool I'm using for. Particular client projects with other corporations I'm working with. And then sometimes in between. Individual clients come and say I need a, can we schedule a call. Either next week or Monday or whatever. And then I try to make room for it. And, and then I have like intentions such as leave my mornings open for deep work and make sure I make enough breaks or you know, don't push too hard instead of breathe out in between. And so how do thus bring in this intelligence of what I know is important for me. Into the structure of my day and week or monthly schedule. So it's more about calendar management I'm interested than like project management. Could you help me with that too?
01:35:03
James: Yep, we can. Claude is my favorite agent to use and we can build in a cloud agent using a cloud API. And we can pre. Program it with any of those considerations. So whenever anybody chats with it knows what you want it to know about yourself and your schedule and your time and considerations.
01:35:32
David Liebnau: James, let's. You may make a note on that and keep it in mind for future upsells once we have our first package been created. And then I think about, okay, how to now make sure throughout the year I lead with presence and not, you know, pushing or performance. And then you may say, hey David, shall I help you with this creation of intelligent Calendar Assistant? And then I say potentially, yeah, let's have a conversation about it. Yeah, but for now, let's keep it really reduced to the essential, and that is not essential for me at this point.
01:36:18
James: Yeah, sounds good. Great. And I should let you go to your evening. Enjoy your time with friends and have a lovely dinner.
01:36:28
David Liebnau: Thank you.
01:36:29
James: And I will be in touch.
01:36:31
David Liebnau: Thank you, my friend. You are a very nice person to. To work with. Thank you so much. And I hope you weren't stressed to join our call today. And I wish you all the best until we speak again.
01:36:46
James: No problem. Yes, my wife normally is more aware of my calendar than me, but this morning, she was like, can you. Your meeting is at 10:30. Can you take me to the train? And I'm like, oh, yeah, sure.
01:36:57
David Liebnau: All right. Take care.
01:37:01
James: Take care. Ciao.
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