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David Liebnau: Hello.

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James Redenbaugh: Hi, David.

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David Liebnau: Hi, James.

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James Redenbaugh: Good to see you.

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David Liebnau: How are you? Oh, now hang on. Your note taker is bigger than yourself. How can we adjust that or. Hang on, I just see this large screen of the note taker and you very little. Do you see that too? because he's. Anyway, I. Okay, I do the gallery view now I can see you. Hi, James.

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James Redenbaugh: Hi, David. How are you? Good to see you.

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David Liebnau: Yeah, I'm. I'm also delighted to get started with you today. Although honestly I am today little exhausted. I guess I feel like time to listen, to wind down, to meditate. I. I really look forward to. Yeah. A more quieter time in the next few weeks. Actually. I also granted myself in January a little bit of a retreat time, but you have the privilege to get direct access to me during that time because our project has then like top priority. But it's been a full year and yeah. My body and my spirit tells me to do less, listen more and more. Yeah. Recharge and update my own being by. By deeply listening.

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James Redenbaugh: So.

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David Liebnau: I, I put myself in your capable hands, James. Lead us through the process. I know you know your game. Let us know or let me know how to support your craft and skill so we can.

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James Redenbaugh: Yeah.

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David Liebnau: Pick it off and co create what wants to emerge through us.

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James Redenbaugh: Great. Wonderful.

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David Liebnau: And how are you, my friend and my dear? Tell me.

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James Redenbaugh: Yeah, I'm doing well. My wife and I have our hands full with these three wonderful kittens that we've adopted. Oh and wow. Yeah, we wanted two, but we found three and we didn't want to split them up and they're so cute and we love them so much and we're building all kinds of things for them to play on and climb on in the house. So hands. Hands full with that. And also in the season where I should be coming into. Into rest and actually finding more focus and energy than I've had in a long time. When we helped my mom move out of her home of 25 years, I felt something shift in me energetically. It's like I thought I would be very sad to let go of this beautiful property in the woods, but it actually opened up all of these things and I've been super focused and reinventing business systems and getting much more into AI automation and these new technologies. So very excited to be doing that. And I've really been looking forward to kicking off this project with you and going on this journey, I think that we can make some really amazing stuff. And. Yeah, and I'm. I'm stoked to. To jump in and also happy to be flexible with. With time and energy too. I want to make myself available to your inspiration so we can be present to what's. What's present. And if you're feeling, you know, reflective today, but, you know, maybe inspired in a couple days, my schedule's pretty flexible and happy to. Happy to make time for that. So I just want to say that.

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David Liebnau: Yeah, thanks for letting me know. And I don't know what. What is on your, like, generic agenda for this type of first call. So, I mean, since we are here now, I'm willing to make the best out of it. And if I feel like, oh, no, I need some time to respond to that at a better state, then I may come back on that offer of yours. But until then, let's get started and let me know what. What needs to be spoken or clarified. Yeah, I. I don't know.

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James Redenbaugh: Great. Wonderful. Well, why don't we begin with a few moments of silence and then I can tell you about the. The agenda. And I like to invite my. My clients to lead us in. In a little moment of reflection, however you like to do that.

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David Liebnau: All right. Yeah. Let's start with breathing. Just breathing in and out and with the out breath, allowing everything to sink into its place. Allowing gravity to help us reconnecting with our own foundation, Source of our being. And I like to invite and invoke the highest possibility of our collaboration so that we can create something like a beacon, a light. Light tower guiding those to me whom I can help with my talents and my gift to become their best version so that we can all serve evolution and make this world an even more peaceful and beautiful place to live. May this process been granted with. Yeah. The creative force and the eros and genius which is present in all living beings. And the joy of creation. And allow all of us to contribute with our very best. And may we be guided by a force which is smarter and more intelligent. Then my mind can hold or my words can speak. So let's spend a few moments to just listen to that greater. Miracle that moves through all things. To which I like to bow and gratitude and love and yeah. Which I like to serve with my abilities. And I like to invite also.

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James Redenbaugh: Yeah.

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David Liebnau: The co creation of our ability as an act of service to that which is the source of oil. And I like to include also all the artificial intelligences which can help us along the way to make our work easy and beautiful. Oh, That's it for now.

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James Redenbaugh: Wonderful. Thank you. What's coming to mind is this idea that there's no such thing as artificial intelligence. There's intelligence, you know, and there's human intelligence. And I forget this all the time and it's not to negate the importance of remaining human as these machines proliferate, but it's also all a part of the same evolutionary intelligence that we're participating in and it's not separate from us. Yep. So I'm glad you're including them. I find myself including them more and I noticed my own intelligence shifting as I team up with them in different ways. So today though, in this first session, what's most important is to, I feel, begin with emptiness, you know, to find the circular starting point or still point in the work, in the work of co creation and in your work. And then we will branch out from there and explore the unique expressions that is your work and what you're doing in the world. But I think we both know that in the essence of your essence is the same thing that's in the essence of all essence, the essence of my work and any work. There's a, there's a stillness that's hard to talk about, that's hard to put words to that can't be named. But I think it's important to remember it.

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David Liebnau: I love that, let's call it finger pointing or, I don't know, remembrance of that. And I like to share with you one discovery I've been given lately. I was consulting with woman who's very skillful in like reading the Akasha chronic and you know, working with past lives and all that to reconnect with the like soul essence of one person. So in addition to the truth of yours, of that truth that we are all like connected, whether we are, you know, what is it, carbon based or silly, cilicium based or mineral based, etc. Plant based. That woman pointed me towards the notion that in essence I'm the whole holy truth and that description really.

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James Redenbaugh: Is.

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David Liebnau: Powerful for me to connect with being the holy truth. So when we connect here to the essence of all, I explicitly also like to bring in the notion that since it's part of it, of is of course to express my uniqueness. Right? And while, which is of course part of the web of life, yet I think it's unique as essence can be described indeed with this holy Truth. So yeah, I'd like to share that with you as well.

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James Redenbaugh: Wonderful. I, I'd love to hear more about what that means for you, especially the word holy, what that conjures in you.

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David Liebnau: Yeah, Very difficult to put words to it because I mean holy means whole like including all right, thesis and antithesis, this and that, beyond polarity, embracing all and being in alignment with like the universal principles. I'm, I guess, although according to that woman, I'm around for at least 19 incarnations because she was pointing me towards some issues out of, you know, a 19 incarnation ago topic which needed some clarification. So I've may indeed have had some experiences gathered on that quest. What does that mean, you know, being a holy truth or the holy truth at this point in time? I, I wouldn't know how to describe it. I, I, I know it's certainly no dogmatism tied to a particular perspective. I'm, I'm more believing it's, yeah, it's like, you know, in the dao, it said the dao that can be named is not the eternal dao. So I think it's beyond words. It's, it's more, I don't know, I just can get a, a feeling, a felt experience which is very much connected to my inner core, like that cosmic meridian connecting me with the earth and the cosmos and is like, yeah, a vertical line at the core of my existence. But it's again, hard to put in words.

00:20:05

James Redenbaugh: Yeah. I want to show you an image just because it reminds me of what you're speaking about and it's a, an old image for me. See if I can share my screen here. Sometimes I view this horizontally. You can see on my screen over there, vertically. And for me, and I made this 16 years ago and it represents, I think, what you're talking about. This, this vertical line connecting us to the unknowable. I often think of it as a circle because it's the simplest shape that one can create in two dimensions. And from that anything is possible. You know, from that different unique expressions grow, full spectrum of colors. And I feel there's something pulling us out of that ground of being. There's some reason for being, driving us in different ways, driving evolution, but also driving us as individuals. And I'm curious to know or hear you speak to what you know about what pulls you. Yeah. What brings you up.

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David Liebnau: Yeah, yeah, that's definitely this. Call to heal relationships. So to foster connections, connection towards our own full potential. Like our entirety of being emotion, strength, vision, shadow. Like being in connection to. Yeah. Our full humanity, our full potential and then on a horizontal level to foster connection between team members or stakeholders. Man and nature. Man. Yeah. I mean I started also to.

00:23:06

James Redenbaugh: To.

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David Liebnau: To with that mission really to. To force the connection between man and nature. Yet I ended up really focusing mainly in that realm of men and men or humans and humans in the workforce as I described also in my briefing document those critical relationships in business. But that goes back to that ultimate call or essential call to foster connections and thus making it aware. I mean connection might always be there anyway whether we are aware of it or not. But bringing more awareness, more mindfulness towards the existing connection as well as of course now in my specific positioning which is forming itself now between founders and. And venture capitalists and business angels. So to foster trust there and allowing us young entrepreneurs, young founders to manifest their own vision and get the support they. They need to. Yeah. To. To realize their vision and to manifest their idea of. Of a better world or a conscious business. Yeah. And me fostering that.

00:24:55

James Redenbaugh: Tell me about the name Light Creators.

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David Liebnau: So yeah, the Light Creators Tribe is my. The name of my company. Right. Because I, when I thought of starting my own company, although I knew it is at that point, it was at that point a one man show. I didn't want it to set it up as a one man show. I didn't. I don't believe in or I believe in the fact that future intelligence I think arises, emerges out of generative dialogue between people. So I want to foster that generative dialogue between people to create future intelligence. And the Light Creators Tribe is an expression of that desire. And it goes actually back to a vision I had when I was in. In my 20s that was in the 90s during actually a Native American pipe ceremony. So no like intoxicating substances were involved but it was just a prior and I've seen, I saw like circles of light. I saw that I want to create. Yeah. Circles meaning conversations, group settings, group formats in which new thoughts, emotions, actions can take place, new awareness, consciousness can land and co create itself. And I want to be of service to that. And part of my vision for my contribution to the world is also to create spaces in which other light creators, like other men with vision entrepreneurs who want to have a positive contribution to the world can come together and create together light in terms of. Yeah. Future intelligence but also hope through connection. Meaning support.

00:27:38

James Redenbaugh: Future.

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David Liebnau: Yeah, through again connection and co creation and collaboration.

00:27:51

James Redenbaugh: Amazing. I Definitely resonate with that. There's a lot of.

00:28:01

David Liebnau: And sorry I need to add one thing and in addition to that ultimate output in terms of my contribution towards my clients, I also founded the light created stripe with the intention that the process on it on the way should always have the quality of the output I want to create. In other words, you now as my partner in the co creation of my websites, you are also if you want part of the light creators tribe already. It's not exclusively just the clients, but it's also my business partners, team members, colleagues who. With whom I collaborate who are invited to become light creators when they collaborate with me. And I like to yeah. Make sure that this way of working is an expression of these types of. Or is an expression of. Yeah. Future intelligence in terms of awareness, of connection, of mindfulness, of evolution as another word for love in action.

00:29:32

James Redenbaugh: Yes. Wonderful. I want to avoid getting going too soon into. Into visuals but you know, I like to have few ideas in the beginning about what I think things should look like but the visual that's coming to mind when I. Or the visual concept that's coming to mind when I listen to what you're sharing is something you already have on your website which is the. The black background and the light content on top of it. I feel like that should. Should remain. I love that myself more and more in my own website and the things that I make because. Helps me see that what I do on the web as the creation of light because I'm, you know I can call it moving pixels around but pixels are these little night light nodes and it becomes more evident and true when it's. When we have a black background and we have, we can draw with light on. On top of it.

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David Liebnau: Yeah. And from a like not philosophical but describing standpoint for me also and I mean I think it looks kind of cool. I, I wouldn't necessarily say real black but like dark gray probably because like dark. A real black is maybe too dark. But a line which are in description resonates also highly with me and that is like hope in dark times, in difficult times. And I think we are, I mean depending on what you look at. Right. Because there's so much also positive and so much like knowledge and support available nowadays but it's also very dark times. I mean when you look at nature, climate, war and yeah a lot of destructive forces are there as well and a lot of people are losing hope. I don't know how it is in your place But Germany isn't also in a good place these days. And so I wanna, in the face of all that which we may call darkness. Yeah. Again, create circles of light, meaning circles of hope and inspiration and future. And also that is part of that initial design idea of mine.

00:32:51

James Redenbaugh: Awesome. There's two exercises I want to do with you and I'm not sure which to do first, but let's do this first. Did you see the numerology app that I texted you? Did you have a chance to.

00:33:17

David Liebnau: Yeah, I, I, I did it. I didn't like really read through it. I've done some numerology assessments in the past, but I didn't actually do yours. I, I just looked at the visual. I. Did you wanted me to actually take the assessment for the content?

00:33:46

James Redenbaugh: Yeah. Could we do it real quick just to see?

00:33:48

David Liebnau: Sure, sure. Yeah.

00:33:50

James Redenbaugh: Geometries pop up.

00:33:53

David Liebnau: I can also share with you my like human design profile, astro data profile if you want. Yeah, you can get all that.

00:34:04

James Redenbaugh: If it, if it resonates and feels relevant, I'm happy to.

00:34:08

David Liebnau: Well, if that resonates for you, I mean, let me know. Are you familiar with the human design?

00:34:21

James Redenbaugh: Definitely.

00:34:22

David Liebnau: All right. Yeah.

00:34:24

James Redenbaugh: I'm building a tool like this that will do numerology, human design, Western astrology, Vedic astrology, and then I'm going to try to get gene keys incorporated as well.

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David Liebnau: Yeah, yeah. What I've done is I created my own GPT, my conscious business navigator with my gene keys, my human design, my astrology like as back database background. And yeah, I'm happy to share those data with you. Will do. I just send it via WhatsApp to you later. Yeah.

00:35:18

James Redenbaugh: Awesome.

00:35:19

David Liebnau: And we can of course also bring in the number stuff.

00:35:26

James Redenbaugh: Awesome. So this should only take a minute. And you know, numerology is very simple.

00:35:34

David Liebnau: Is it based on the approach from Dan Millman or what? What? Because I mean there are some different systems around, don't they?

00:35:44

James Redenbaugh: Yeah, it's, I was trained in numerology by a woman named Elan about 15 years ago and okay, a lot of my own understanding from that time, but then also just playing with the geometries. I've been a geometrician most of my life and I just, I know that each number carries its own frequency and potential. There's things that triangles can do that squares can't. And, and when we have a three in our profile, it creates a triangular energy that has certain resonances. And then I've read lots of, you know, it Goes back to ancient Greece and ancient Egypt. Different people exploring the significance of numbers and shape. But this tool is very simple. It just uses a simple algorithm and Claude to create analysis. And get my camera, different camera plugged in here because my one just died. And I'll punch in your.

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David Liebnau: Yeah, just for your information. I mean, go ahead and punch it in there. I also shared it via WhatsApp. My. I'm meaning my birth date and origin. You also have in the WhatsApp now. And I will share with you these other. Profiles I was referring to being the gene keys, the human design. And the Rodix. Yeah, so hang on, hang on. Yeah, but you do your number thing and I prepare this other data for you. Just need to double check one thing.

00:38:08

James Redenbaugh: And do you have a middle name?

00:38:10

David Liebnau: Yeah, well, I have three names. My full name is Anna, David Kurt. So first name is actually Anna, but I nowadays call myself David only. And I have a third name being Kurt. So I don't know how you want to. Yeah, deal with that.

00:38:33

James Redenbaugh: Yeah, maybe you could text me the full name in WhatsApp what you were given at birth.

00:38:40

David Liebnau: Okay, hang on. Okay, so. David, so in the chat of this, of the Ms. Teams or WhatsApp.

00:38:57

James Redenbaugh: WhatsApp is fine.

00:38:58

David Liebnau: Yeah. Okay, You got it.

00:39:09

James Redenbaugh: Wonderful. Do it like that.

00:39:15

David Liebnau: Oh, my human design profile is in German, but you are AI assistant, can certainly translate that. I hope that is okay for you.

00:39:30

James Redenbaugh: Of course.

00:39:32

David Liebnau: Well, I have one which, yeah, I don't know, I send what I have and you make the best out of it.

00:39:40

James Redenbaugh: Great. And you were born in April, right? April 6th.

00:39:45

David Liebnau: April 6th.

00:39:49

James Redenbaugh: Great.

00:40:03

David Liebnau: Yeah. Now, and in the chat you have now two versions of my gene key. No, one gene key profile. Two versions of my human design profile and my erotics in terms of the Western astrology. And now you produce the numbers and then you know everything about me.

00:40:24

James Redenbaugh: Great. Yes, almost.

00:40:27

David Liebnau: And yeah, what I also like, I don't know if that's relevant for you. The Enneagram, I think is also a cool tool, but it's more of course the describing actually the fixation and not the full potential. So maybe it's more a liberating tool than a marketing tool. And yeah, let's. And let's not get too much. I mean these types of maps will I think be sufficient. So.

00:40:59

James Redenbaugh: Yes.

00:41:00

David Liebnau: Okay, so what does that tell you now?

00:41:03

James Redenbaugh: Wonderful. So very good things. This mandala is created by your four different numbers. Each number represents a different kind of level of the energies that you come into this world. With. So your birth path is kind of the initiatory energy. It's kind of your default state. And yours is. Is 9, which is very good. It's a lot about completion, integration. It's the most. It can be the most wild. It can also be the holiest number. It's a really beautiful symmetry. The, the nine. It's my favorite. I have it as my destiny number and we don't need to get too into it. I just wanted to glance at your profile, but you're.

00:42:11

David Liebnau: I mean, it is interesting and I. Can you later share the profile or the report with me again? I. Yeah, it's because, as I said, I didn't. I didn't really take the time or took the time to do that assessment, but now, as I see it, I am getting curious and I want to. Want to have a read.

00:42:36

James Redenbaugh: Yeah. Yep. It's. It'll be in your email now. And I, I really love the timeline functionality that we have here because there's. There's your personality numbers, but then there's also these different life phases. And so I made this timeline to show you at. At which points in your life were you at different life phases and see if they're, you know, when you reflect on it, you can see if there's resonance there. And, and it shows that you. Oh, this is interesting. We don't always see this. So the pinnacle numbers, those are the different life phases. It's a different calculation that comes up with those. They're not necessarily connected to your profile numbers, but your pinnacle numbers match almost exactly your profile or your pin. Your profile is 9651. And the pinnacle numbers of your life phases have been 1, 5, 6, and then 3. And 3 is very connected to 9. Obviously, there's threes and nine, but you have this almost perfect symmetry. I've never actually seen this before, and I've done maybe 50 of these since I launched this app. And so it says that at. At 45, you finish the third pinnacle of six, and you entered this, the final pinnacle, which has a theme of three, which is a lot about creativity, creation.

00:44:22

David Liebnau: What is six about?

00:44:25

James Redenbaugh: Six is about. It's about. It can be about family, responsibility.

00:44:32

David Liebnau: Wow.

00:44:34

James Redenbaugh: Yeah.

00:44:35

David Liebnau: Because, I mean, that, that is very interesting because, you know, in. When I was 45 or while 45 and 46, I in a way created the exit out of my family, like marriage container. And at 46, we split up. Interesting. And, and that was all about, of course, family and responsibility and all that very interesting.

00:45:14

James Redenbaugh: Yeah yeah. So in your 46th year, you would have had a, you been in a one. Personal year number. So every year we have a, a number as well. So you're 55 now.

00:45:34

David Liebnau: 55, yeah.

00:45:36

James Redenbaugh: Yeah. So you're in another one year actually, which is very fitting for starting something new for relaunching your website as perfect. Couldn't have a more perfect number for that. So that's very good. You've been in this three phase for nine years. So you've reached a completion.

00:45:57

David Liebnau: And three was what creative or.

00:46:01

James Redenbaugh: Yeah, creativity, energy, movement, change.

00:46:04

David Liebnau: Interesting interesting. Because I mean there was a lot of like pivoting, trying this, trying that. Not really permitting to one approach yet.

00:46:16

James Redenbaugh: Which is good.

00:46:17

David Liebnau: Yeah, interesting. Yeah But I mean, you know, as. As I, I don't know, I think I've shared with you in one of our WhatsApp messages where one of my coaches compared this like, you know, getting start launch a successful business as a coach with like the dating business. So you start doing like research and you start to date and then at one point you marry. So I hope that I'm now at a point where I can marry. Meaning that what we create as. As my new positioning and funnel has some stability. Right. And, and can serve as my main focus for. Yeah, some time. Right. I mean. Yeah, yeah, we'll see.

00:47:21

James Redenbaugh: Well, the num. The numbers are. Are favorable for that. You know, to have completed a cycle in three is very good. It automatically creates a stability that you can. Can build upon. And the dynamic nature as well is likely to continue. That doesn't mean that you won't have more and more foundation that you can build upon. But you know, I would be surprised if nine years from now it looks the same as it looks a year from now.

00:47:58

David Liebnau: Of course it is that. That's also part of the truth. It's always changing and deepening. But of course my intention is. Or my also my trust is that what we create has. Will have the. Yeah, we'll have some at least, you know, the like. Like let's compare it like we build a house and then. And the main design of the house can hopefully remain for a certain time. And the, you know, maybe I remove some furnitures later and maybe I color one room yellow or bring in a curtain where I formally had no curtain, etc. Right. So the interior design can change, but the main architecture has hopefully some stability. But again, we are open for both the stability and the change. I think.

00:49:11

James Redenbaugh: Awesome. One other thing I'LL say about this, and we don't have to get too into it, but you have five and six in here a lot as well. And these are personally two of my favorite numbers, especially 6. I have a ton of 6 in. In my chart. Here's mine, for example, my. My birth path and my core are both six, as well as the first two pinnacles in my chart. I'm in my sixth pinnacle right now. I'm also in the sixth year. And.

00:49:56

David Liebnau: So thus you're marrying and building and become a father of three kittens. Yeah, I don't hear you now anymore. I don't hear you. No. You hear me? Yes. Do you hear me? Yes. You hear me. Okay. Keep speaking. And I let you know when I hear you. No, no. So, yes. Okay. Yes. You're back.

00:51:17

James Redenbaugh: I think something frozen in teams as I switch my microphone.

00:51:21

David Liebnau: Yeah, team sometimes sucks. It's. It's just sometimes I'm wondering. I mean, you definitely caught my attention now with your assessment. there you go. Because, you know, I saw it at a late night and was just looking briefly at it, but I want to go back to it. It's a cool side and looks very cool. Now I can appreciate it more. And you. So, yeah, but you were about to say something about your profile and the five and the six.

00:51:53

James Redenbaugh: Yeah. So six is kind of my home base, but five is. Is super alive. You know, it's deep in my heart. I. I lived in this community house in college that really shaped me and a lot of my. My life and. And it was. We called it 560 and the play between five and six. Oh, and I have this. I look down and I see. I have this dodecahedron die with 5 and 6 looking at me. It's like it symbolizes this. This work that we're both engaged in that has to do with helping humans connect with each other and with the divine nature of the cosmos. Because five is very human. You know, we had five fingers. It's very alive. We have four limbs and a head. We're very pentagonal. We have, you know, Chinese five elements and pentagrams and, you know, plants and nature. And life grows from the earth. The earth is very four. Four directions, grounded, stable. Five is a life growing on that. But then six is the level that's hard for most to see. It's the. It's the connections and the relationships and the community and the. The honeycomb patterns of life. I don't think it'll focus on that. But. But my. My wedding ring has these honeycombs on it. And it's how we're learning to be together on this planet. And, and so it makes a lot of sense for me to see that in there and also to hear you share what you've shared about seeking that stability. Because 6 offers a different kind of stability than we're used to talking about in our modern Western world. It's an incredibly stable form, but it's a different kind of stability than 4. If you have a 4 in your profile, it'll, you know, it'll tell you know, stable building, you know, four walls of the house. Most people who are incredibly stable in our world have a lot of four energy, you know, right angles.

00:54:40

David Liebnau: Okay. But yeah, that's probably not my main strength or main quality.

00:54:47

James Redenbaugh: Not the kind of stability that you can achieve.

00:54:50

David Liebnau: Right, right.

00:54:52

James Redenbaugh: The stability that you can achieve from the outside. It might not look like stability, it might look very dynamic, but it can be a kind of toroidal field where you can have more assurity and you know, the star isn't going to collapse on itself, but it's functioning because of these dynamic angles and the, and what it's connected to. You know, it's very much about connections. And your success, I feel, will be very much about connections. And the success that you can help others achieve, of course is. Has to do with their connections and you helping them heal those connections and become healers of those connections in themselves.

00:55:51

David Liebnau: Yes.

00:55:54

James Redenbaugh: Great. So, yeah, I'm glad we looked at that. It affirms a lot of things I was already feeling and it's always a pleasant surprise when it resonates and I could find meaning in there.

00:56:09

David Liebnau: Yeah, definitely. And as I said, I will read through this full report. Thanks for sharing.

00:56:19

James Redenbaugh: Yeah. And I'd love to know what you think of it. I'm going to continue to evolve it and build more intelligence into it because it's very simple at this point.

00:56:32

David Liebnau: I mean, it is an interesting thing. You've you. I mean, with that we can start to of course talk or dive a little more into the details because as I've shared with you in the briefing document, I mean one part of my like or the initial contact for hopefully many of my future leads will be a quiz. Right. So and I shared or I can share it with you the current status. I can do so now already yet. I created the first draft document with the currently 11 questions and some additional concepts in terms of profile examples. I created that in German so I can of course Translate that and then send it to you or I just sent you the German version and you translated. We can figure that out later. But when you speak of like future iterations of your numerology assessment and I'm always, you know, I, I always my. My mind thinks in like connections and brainstorming without and I'm. I sometimes clarify my mind while on my thinking while speaking. So please bear with me here. One idea which occurred to me now was to. Or is to. How about combining that. But I don't know whether I really want that actually because of course numerology has a certain like tone to it like astrology. I mean I'm totally open to that but I don't know whether my future clients will be open to that. Right. Whether that is. Is really the right angle or whether that current with factors which is all about their problem which is funding or finding funding for their business venture idea. Yeah, I don't know. Do you understand what I'm trying to express here?

00:59:31

James Redenbaugh: Yeah, totally. And I'll be very excited to get into those possibilities with you. And we can use esoteric means. We can also use more practical means. So like I'm not sure if I've share this one with you. This was a demo for a client and it's a similar kind of assessment to the numerology but it's all practical questions about purpose.

01:00:07

David Liebnau: Do you. Would it be okay for you if I share with you the current draft document of the quiz in German or you want me to translate it first into English so that you can. I mean depending on how you would work with it. If you would feed it into your ki and say have a look at that and all that and yeah, then there's probably no need for a translation but if yourself want to have a look at it then of course we'll need to make it in English.

01:00:42

James Redenbaugh: German's fine, no problem. Yeah, I can translate.

01:00:52

David Liebnau: Then. I mean it is just a. You know I've been playing with this with Claude and ChatGPT so it's AI generated but it gives you an idea about my current status of that quiz idea. And I checked I. On Monday I had a first. Application of it. I, I won my first client and I used that already to assess their situation and it worked quite nicely. I shared it with you. Now it's again just a draft. Yeah. Where in which I copied all the relevant output of my co creation with AI around the five factors of my core model and a few questions how we could create. Create a quiz out of that. And what are you playing with here? What. What is that? What are you doing. Now? Oh, I can't hear you anymore. Again. Oh, no. What is that going on here, James?

01:02:23

James Redenbaugh: How about now?

01:02:24

David Liebnau: Yes, now.

01:02:25

James Redenbaugh: Okay, great. So this is a program I love. On the right it's called Rhino. On the left, it's called Grasshopper. This is a 3D CAD program that I can use to create forms. You know, I learned it in architecture school. And, you know, we can build 3D shapes or whatever, but there's a plugin for it called Grasshopper, which allows me to create forms from math. And I. I love this because it allows me to really rapidly iterate different kinds of forms to see what's possible without having to draw, you know, eat each form every time I have a new idea. And so I built this to represent what I was seeing. When you described the experience that you had in the pipe ceremony where you were seeing the circles of light.

01:03:43

David Liebnau: Yeah.

01:03:45

James Redenbaugh: And so what I did here is it just starts with a single point in the center, and then I have it create a circle radiating out from that. And then I have a function that divides that circle. You know, right now it divides it into nine. And then circles are drawn from those points, and then it detects the intersection of those points to create these sub circles. And then we could do the same kind of thing here to just create more circles. And you can see the process multiplies.

01:04:28

David Liebnau: Wow.

01:04:32

James Redenbaugh: Possibilities. And. And creates different forms which end up being, I think, quite beautiful. And this can be. And they get quite complex if we turn the numbers up. Yeah. And I find these helpful for a number of reasons. They can become graphics that can become logos, they can become icons. They can also become interactive graphics that we can create on the. On the website. They don't have to be static. You know, I could recreate this kind of logic with JavaScript that responds to mouse movement or user input or time or whatever. But they can also be metaphors for how we think about the project and the work that you're doing and the. And the community that you want to build or the effects that you want to create.

01:05:41

David Liebnau: I love it, and I love the power of the circle. And yeah, it's a great visualization. I love it.

01:05:51

James Redenbaugh: Wonderful.

01:05:54

David Liebnau: Yet, James, I think that Circles of Light, you know, that like, product connected to that vision is, I think at the very end of the. Or not end, but that part of the work, which I'm afraid, I guess is out of scope because, you know, that comes after they've Been going through the main program and then are ready for my like an Omni membership or alumni offers which is then the Circles of Light peer consultation or so. So maybe we need to hold on to that idea until we come to the very last part of the. Or last. I don't know whether that's the right word, but that. Yeah. Currently endpoint of the funnel steps I've shared with you, which I vaguely remember as being out of scope based on our like detailed look at. Yeah. What's in scope and what's not in scope. But if we figure out, I don't know that's more vital to. I mean part of it is of course, I mean, I guess and we got to balance that. I mean one aspect is of course that the client or lead need a get the idea that what I offer is exactly what he needs and is looking for. So it's very like lead oriented. And the other aspect of course is to help them to understand who am I and what's my grander vision of my work. And maybe we create a section about me about the Light creators tribe and we can maybe bring in there already the idea of the Circles of Light as part of the like initial home page or landing page or section about me and my company and then come back on that whenever it's time to actually design the page for my alumni program.

01:08:30

James Redenbaugh: Yeah, of course. And I think that it's. We want to find a. At this point, I'm using this tool as a means of finding with you a visual language that we can use across all the offerings. And so Circles of Light is, you know, literally most pertinent to your Circles of Light. But we can also, you know, I think that the visual metaphor is applicable across several things and we can also find more shapes and concepts for more things. And, and so this is, you know, I want to use this to make some graphics and bring them into our awareness. But also as we play with your content. We, we might use polygons, we might want to play with Fibonacci sequences and golden spirals.

01:10:02

David Liebnau: Can I speak like if we once again make use of that Circles of Light idea and the tool you're currently sharing with me, of course I've noticed that you are changing the numbers. I think initially we had what was it, nine numbers, now we have the four. And I've looked at my profile here, the number profile and at the bottom it says Synthesis theme three. So and part of, I mean I do like to work in my work, I like to make use of the power of three, like triads. Yeah, it's a great number for support systems, body groups helping each other. Great. Yeah, again, great number for transfer systems. So four, as you said before actually for me seems too stable, too like squarish. I, I would be curious how that circles of light would look if we don't have four as the basis, but three.

01:11:32

James Redenbaugh: Yeah, of course.

01:11:35

David Liebnau: Could you adjust that and show me?

01:11:38

James Redenbaugh: Yeah, it's processing here because it encountered too many intersections, so hopefully it resolves itself. But yes, totally, we can play with that. I can also create tools for you to play with these things yourself in a browser and to change the numbers and tweak the sliders. Okay. I'll show you a quick demo with the numerology real quick while that hopefully resolves itself. There we go. Yeah, so similar to this, We can turn off those labels. Let's see the lines. So this is a way for people to create their own profiles. But recently I found a way to take the logic from Grasshopper and export it into an XML format that I can convert with the help of Claude into this kind of interface. So as we get into the creative process, I'll give you exercises to have you play with these shapes and you can take screenshots and send them to me and tell me what resonates most. But I think that this is frozen and it might not be coming back right now. So that's unfortunate, but happens. And because I didn't save this, I don't think it will auto save. But that's okay. As you saw, it's very easy for me to create those kind of things.

01:14:22

David Liebnau: Yeah.

01:14:22

James Redenbaugh: Cool.

01:14:24

David Liebnau: And I mean it might be interesting also for you or for us at one point to. Or I mean through this type of like feedback systems or try out possibilities. It. I, I'm. At some point I, I definitely want to bring in my partner, you know, Julie. She is a former creative director and she's very good in with design like understanding. I, I'm not so like sensitive to what. Yeah, what you. You what. What is beautiful or harmonious or like in sync with something. So I guess whenever it's feedback loops, I will. Or not always. But before we go live with someone with some stuff, I may want to bring in Julie. So. Yeah, and that might also be a resource for us basically. I just want to mention.

01:15:43

James Redenbaugh: Great. Yeah, no problem. Sounds good. So here we have our three and also rotate this guy.

01:16:02

David Liebnau: And what does the three stands for in this numerology? What is that all about, actually?

01:16:09

James Redenbaugh: Yes. So three is creativity, action, flow, change, transformation, things like that. Yeah, yeah, I like it oriented like that. And then we can intersect these guys like so draw some more. From those points. So here we can see. You know, it. It creates the flower of life, but I can also change the radii to do something different.

01:17:00

David Liebnau: Yeah, okay. Yeah. I mean, yeah, I don't know this. The flower of life, of course, is a very well known symbol and been seen so often, so I wouldn't probably like to have that as my thing. But we don't have to decide that now. Right, Because I'm.

01:17:29

James Redenbaugh: No, not at all. Yeah. And I know as well we don't want the aesthetic to be too woo or new agey. We want it to feel clean and professional and accessible and beautiful. Right.

01:17:54

David Liebnau: Yeah. I liked how it was put in this briefing document at the very end there was. Was it version 3 or. How many documents did I share with you? Version two, right? I think only two, right? No, three at the end it says. Hang on. So if the old website felt like a sanctuary for healing, the new website should feel like a temple of resonance. If that, I don't know, makes sense for you. A place where intelligence meets presence. And high performing founders finally exhale.

01:18:45

James Redenbaugh: Mm.

01:18:47

David Liebnau: Can relax because they feel okay. That is again, clear, intelligent, resonant. Yes. Feel understood. Yeah.

01:19:02

James Redenbaugh: Right. Well, temple building is my primary purpose. Very good in this life.

01:19:11

David Liebnau: Very good.

01:19:13

James Redenbaugh: So happy to be orienting that way for sure.

01:19:20

David Liebnau: Yeah, yeah. That goes more in the direction I'm. I mean, that's more interesting here. Yeah. But the nine or the initial thing, was it a nine or a six? You shared with me first, Was it six or nine?

01:19:43

James Redenbaugh: It was nine.

01:19:45

David Liebnau: Yeah. That was also tempting. It was more. This collective group says maybe. Here's the thing, James, I'm currently envisioning, like when thinking about my core offer, I think about two options. One is the Threshold Retreat, where a small group gathers together of maybe six to nine or six to 12 people. Where we could probably, for example, use that circles of light with nine circles. And the alternative to the group format is the solo. The solo intensive, where we can say we use the number three because it's the founder, it's me and the venture capitalist.

01:20:59

James Redenbaugh: Yeah.

01:20:59

David Liebnau: So maybe, I don't know as an idea.

01:21:03

James Redenbaugh: Of course. Yeah.

01:21:09

David Liebnau: James, let's stop playing with this tool. It looks impressive. I like it. But I notice I'm getting a Little tired and I definitely will become invigorated again if you ask me any questions. So do you need to know anything from me? If so, let me know, please.

01:21:34

James Redenbaugh: Yeah, well, I think that this is a good place to start to wrap up actually. For now. I think I have a, the taste I, I wanted from this call and I just want to make sure we take some time to talk about next steps and the next questions I want you to answer. So all formulate a document for you with lots of questions for you to take more time with and you can answer the ones that feel most relevant and resonant and the ones that don't feel relevant or resonant or that you feel you've answered in the documents that you've already shared. You can just leave those blank. The purpose of the document is to just fill in parts of the picture that we might not already have and give you an opportunity to reflect deeper on the purpose of the work and the next phase that you want it to grow into. So before our next call, you can spend some time with that and then also I'll ask you to start to collect other points of visual and metaphoric inspiration. If there's images or art or movies or music, really anything that you want to feed into the space and be happy to, to view that and review that. So you can be thinking about that as well and sharing links into this document that I'll share with you. Or I can set up a, a Google Drive folder where you can put. Put images things like that so we can start to create a palette together in this, in the beginning it's yes please.

01:24:10

David Liebnau: Yeah. Speaking of pictures, I think until like 23rd or so of December, I have access to shutter or what is it a shutter? I think it's called a stock or stock picture base. Afterwards, of course I can prolong the apple, but I noticed I had it for months and I didn't used it. So I was wondering whether I could already be design or create any pictures for that but help me to understand a little more. I mean like pictures what am I looking for? So any idea or hints for me to. Yeah yeah, I to use.

01:25:11

James Redenbaugh: I would say follow your heart and the resonance. Like what is. What is. What is the resonant temple for you basically? So you could include pictures of actual temples architecture, you know that, that resonate with you and don't worry too much about them being applicable or appropriate in the Beginning here, we're just. We're using a wide angle lens and we're collecting as much input as we can, and then we'll refine and evolve it as time goes on. And so. Yeah, see what. I'd love to know what resonates with you. What? Art is beautiful to you, that speaks to your soul.

01:26:08

David Liebnau: So like a mood board you want me to develop? Is that what you're looking for?

01:26:14

James Redenbaugh: That's what we'll get to. Yeah, I'll. I'll help you.

01:26:17

David Liebnau: Speaking of art, I have. I have here, Hang on. Because I. I just. A friend of mine is a. An artist and I just poured a picture of her. I'm sharing in the. I don't know whether that is. Is relevant for. For my website, but at least it's. It's a piece of art I bought and I start sharing with you in the chat. But you said actually you. You're gonna design a Google Drive for me where you want me actually to do. To. To share those collections, right?

01:27:12

James Redenbaugh: Huh? Yep.

01:27:15

David Liebnau: Okay, we'll do. We'll do. So mood. What. What is beautiful art? You want me to answer? What is beautiful art for me? Okay.

01:27:26

James Redenbaugh: Oh, beautiful. I love it.

01:27:30

David Liebnau: Yeah, I love that too. I mean, the question is helpful. Sometimes you got to ask me questions, then I. I know what to answer. And then you can activate me through questions. What is the name of that document you want me to fill out? What is it called? So I can make a note of it here in my scribbles.

01:27:56

James Redenbaugh: I call it a Branding Questionnaire.

01:27:59

David Liebnau: Branding questionnaire. All right. Yeah.

01:28:09

James Redenbaugh: Great. So, yeah, I'll review our call and see when what questions are going to be most appropriate for that document and follow up with you with clear instructions on how to do that.

01:28:29

David Liebnau: And then.

01:28:30

James Redenbaugh: Do we already have a next meeting scheduled?

01:28:32

David Liebnau: Yeah, we have on Thursday, December 11th.

01:28:38

James Redenbaugh: Right.

01:28:40

David Liebnau: That's good for me.

01:28:43

James Redenbaugh: Yeah.

01:28:44

David Liebnau: And afterwards, my. My schedule frees up anyway, so it will be easy for me to find additional dates for you or for us.

01:28:55

James Redenbaugh: Okay, great.

01:28:57

David Liebnau: James, I want you to also, since you know, I like invoked my intention for. For us, I want to invite you to. As a, Like a closure to share your like, intention or invocation for our collaboration. Since this is the starting point, I also want to hear your. Whatever you want to call it, your intention or blessing or fingerprint into our kickoff.

01:29:40

James Redenbaugh: Wonderful. Thank you. Yes. Great. What a perfect way to close. So, yeah, I mean, we can find ourselves in our. In our bodies again. And remember that source, that circle that we come from, the. The sun in the center of our hearts, the. The black hole in the center of our galaxy. My intention is for this process to holistically benefit the unfolding cosmic reality and the humans on this planet that are participating with it. My intention is to be in service to the weaving of light and the healing of relationships and the evolution of our souls. I want to be available for temple building in its true sense, which means to me, Letting the cosmos use my. My hands, my mind, my team, my technologies to assemble light and intelligence into the forms that can help David to manifest the highest good in his work and in the lives and the hearts of the people he's in service to. And I ask the cosmos, creator, the energy and intelligence of the universe, to help us on this journey, to guide us, remind us of what's most important, and to let the process be easeful, fun, inspiring, and joyful. Thank you.

01:32:26

David Liebnau: Thank you, James. I'm. I'm deeply touched by your words and very grateful for you having. Having you at my side. Thank you. Thank you. And I. Yeah, I'm very grateful and tremendously look forward to. To our collaboration. Thanks. I hope.

01:32:44

James Redenbaugh: It's an honor and a pleasure. Thank you, David. I really appreciate it.

01:32:51

David Liebnau: Do you know this one here? Hang on. Yay.

01:32:57

James Redenbaugh: Cool. I'll be in touch. Have a good evening.

01:33:01

David Liebnau: Yeah.

01:33:01

James Redenbaugh: And restful time. And thank you. Talk to you soon.

01:33:05

David Liebnau: Yeah. See you soon. Or talk to you soon. All the best.

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