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Yoana: This meeting is being recorded. Hi, can you hear me? Hey, James. Oh, I can't hear you. I still can't hear you. It.

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James Redenbaugh: Can you hear me now?

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Yoana: Yes, I can.

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James Redenbaugh: Okay, great. Sorry, I don't know what happened to my microphones. Oh, here they are. Of course. How are you doing?

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Yoana: I'm okay. I put my baby to sleep like three minutes ago. And then I've been frantically cleaning the house because my dad and my sister are arriving today to visit for a week and. Yeah, wonderful. Yeah, nice. How are you doing?

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James Redenbaugh: I'm doing okay. We're taking off for Portugal on Wednesday and I've never been so busy in my life.

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Yoana: It's like, oh, Jesus.

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James Redenbaugh: So much. We're doing the biggest app build we've ever done, the biggest website we've ever done to launch at this conference, and that's been so much. And then on top of that, I'm trying to finish all of these things before that because we're doing our honeymoon right after the conference.

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Yoana: Right. So you're finishing clients work and big project.

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James Redenbaugh: Yeah.

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Yoana: Let me know. Yeah. If you need to put this over or something. Like, I'm not in a huge hurry.

00:02:47

James Redenbaugh: Well, here's what I was thinking because I was getting into Squarespace and realizing, like, oh, I haven't used Squarespace in longer than I thought and it's changed so much and. And it seems like I'm very curious to get into can do a lot, but it's going to be harder than I thought to build in there and have it look like this prototype. But I think that what we have right now is pretty great. And so what I was thinking was I could get this site live online for you to have, and I could even help you connect it to Claude so you could use Claude to make edits to it. And then when I'm back, if you want, I can help you move it onto Squarespace, if that's what you want to use.

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Yoana: What is it on right now?

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James Redenbaugh: So right now it's made with HTML, CSS and JavaScript and it's hosted on GitHub. It could be hosted anywhere because it's just pure HTML and CSS and images. But it means it's not super easy to edit unless you're using Claude or something like that. And then.

00:04:26

Yoana: Tell Claude to edit it. And you can do that. Okay, gotcha.

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James Redenbaugh: Yeah,.

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Yoana: Got it. So your suggestion is we launch it when it's almost there. And then when would you be able to convert it to Squarespace? When are you back and available?

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James Redenbaugh: I'll be back mid June. We'll be back on the 12th.

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Yoana: Got it. Yeah. I mean, that's not far off.

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James Redenbaugh: Yeah. Unless I can get somebody on my team who wants to do it in Squarespace. We haven't done a Squarespace site in a minute. And I am curious myself to do it because I love knowing how to do everything. And it's. It's a great tool. You know, it's not a bad offering to have, But. Yeah, we could. We could totally build it. Build it out in June.

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Yoana: Okay. Well, let's see. I guess where we are, Because I'm open to that. I'm also open to just not launching it until it's on Squarespace.

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James Redenbaugh: Okay.

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Yoana: So, you know, I was trying to get this done before I started work. I started work last week, but, yeah, it was just too much. Usual. I'm very ambitious with my. I can do everything and baby, me too. And I can't.

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James Redenbaugh: Minus baby. I don't know what I'm gonna do when we have baby.

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Yoana: Yeah, well, you're gonna scale back on a lot of things.

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James Redenbaugh: Yeah. Yeah. That's why I'm working so hard right now.

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Yoana: Yeah. And so, yeah, let's see where we are and then, you know, we can decide at the end of this cold weather, we should, you know, hold off or.

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James Redenbaugh: Great. Awesome.

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Yoana: Did you see my text edits?

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James Redenbaugh: I did, yes.

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Yoana: And I think so messy. I was just doing it in between baby naps and. No, in the car while the baby. Because the baby fell asleep in the car. So now I'm like, oh, my God. I have five minutes. Pull out my laptop.

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James Redenbaugh: Oh, my God.

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Yoana: That's how it all got done. In 5, 15 minute increments.

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James Redenbaugh: Awesome. Great. I think I have incorporated them all and I have some notes. First of all, I know you don't love the background image here or the background video. I thought maybe we could find a better one. I have so many istock credits I need to use.

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Yoana: Did you see my note about just having it be. At least for now, not a video, but just a static image that it's, you know, when you. I don't know if this happens to you, but when I click on the website, when I first open it, there's a photo that flashes and then it goes straight to the video. And I really like that photo. And it's a photo we used before.

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James Redenbaugh: Yeah. Yeah.

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Yoana: It's like a sunset photo.

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James Redenbaugh: Yep. I'll just take the video off for now.

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Yoana: Can we just have the photo for now? Yeah,.

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James Redenbaugh: One sec.

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Yoana: I was looking. I was looking at a few other videos and then my computer froze. I was looking at a few other videos. Sunset, San Francisco Bay Area is what I put in. I don't have the right one yet, so let's just move forward with the photo for now.

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James Redenbaugh: Okay. You asked if this is too many identities. Attorney, lecturer.

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Yoana: Oh, add in more. Yeah, yeah, because that whole first page has like my. There's like multiple places where similar things appeared. So I was trying to see if we want them here or if we want them somewhere else. I mean, in the top is nice because. Because, you know, it's the first thing people see.

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James Redenbaugh: But yeah, I don't think it's too many at all. It's 20, 26. We're all many things. You know, we're a verb, not a noun. So I think it's fine to have. And we could even have them. Well, I don't know if we could on Squarespace, but here we could have them kind of scrolling if it's too much to fit on one line, especially on mobile.

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Yoana: Yeah. Or if we. Like, what did I say? Sorry, I haven't. Because I edited over so many days, I forgot what I put in there. There was something about that next line. Where did it go? There was something. That. Oh, I was wondering whether we should keep that credentials and roles black banner thing. Basically, it's a little busy right now because it says my name on top, then says this thing, then it says attorney, then it says a quote, then it has the black. Then it has. So I think if we maybe we move the identities to the black banner and we move the credentials and roles, or we also have it. Yeah, let me know what you think. I thought I. I thought I kind of wrote out some of these things. Oh, no, I didn't write them out. I left them in my voice note and I don't remember what I said in my voice note. That's what it was. It was in the voice note that I sent you because that was the. Yeah, that was when I was kind of making my suggestions about the homepage.

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James Redenbaugh: Yes, One second. Let me just copy these over to my PC real quick. And while I'm doing that, you can see how.

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Yoana: Yeah, I see what you mean. It's the. If we could. Yeah,.

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James Redenbaugh: I was going to say you can see how easy it is for me to edit the site via Claude. So I'm just typing to Claude right now. Can you add all these identities in here? And then I'm saying, can you move these? And I even asked where on the site Would you recommend I move these to. And it gives me options. It's like, I think the. I think this about section. And so I say, yeah, go for it. And now I can see it's doing that. And I think it would be worth you playing with that interface over Squarespace, because given your. Your motherhood and. And how you're working these days, you know, to. To make an edit on Squarespace is going to be harder for you to find time to be in front of your computer and learn the interface and do all that. But with Claude, you can literally voice message Claude on your phone and say, hey, can you add this section? Can you edit this thing? Can you move this thing over there? Can you create a new page for this? And it'll do it for you.

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Yoana: Okay, so maybe what I can do while you're away is try to do that and see how it goes.

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James Redenbaugh: Yeah.

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Yoana: And if I'm. If I don't like it, then it will go back first page.

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James Redenbaugh: Exactly.

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Yoana: Okay. And I have to. What kind of cloud account do I need to make? It's not a free account, right? I have to buy cloud. And then how much? Looks like some monthly payment. Is it like a special account I need or is it. Any cloud account can do it.

00:13:52

James Redenbaugh: Let me ask Claude real quick. I'm sure it can tell me.

00:14:07

Yoana: It. Baby's awake, so.

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James Redenbaugh: Oh, baby.

00:14:56

Yoana: Hi, baby. Human princess. Come here. Come here, sweetheart. You waking up from your nap? We stayed a good nap. That wasn't even half hour. That was really half hour. You want to go, daddy. Now? I'm just going to fall.

00:15:25

James Redenbaugh: Yeah. $20 A month for Claud.

00:15:50

Yoana: Perfect. So is it. What is it just a. What is. What account should I get?

00:15:54

James Redenbaugh: That's the. That's the pro level.

00:15:57

Yoana: Pro.

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James Redenbaugh: Mm.

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Yoana: Okay, I got it. Great. I will get pro and then I will. Yeah, you let me know. Maybe you don't have to do it now, but you can let me know, like, oh, you. You put the URL and you talk to it, or you whatever.

00:16:16

James Redenbaugh: And then, yeah, I'll set you up with a GitHub account and give you access to that. And then I'll walk you through connecting Claude to GitHub, And that's all you'll need. I'll show you what mine looks like for my website, James. Today. It has some different folders and some different pages, and all the images are stored here in GitHub. And I actually have my CV on here and my experience. And if I want to add something new, I'll just ask Claude. Hey, can you add something new or. Hey, this doesn't look great on mobile. Can share a screenshot and it will update it for me.

00:17:18

Yoana: Got it?

00:17:20

James Redenbaugh: Yeah.

00:17:21

Yoana: So what is the best way to use our time together today? Because I probably have only like 20 minutes or so.

00:17:32

James Redenbaugh: Yeah, yeah, no problem.

00:17:33

Yoana: We had budgeted in a short meeting and I don't know if you've been able to make some of the edits I sent already or are we going to make them now or.

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James Redenbaugh: Yeah, I. Except for what you shared in that voice note, everything in the email or everything you put into the doc should be in here now. And. I had some other questions here for you. The collective liberation banner. Where is the.

00:18:59

Yoana: We have. Let's see. Maybe it's not. Maybe. I think we moved that. I think it was the original text but you changed it to realizing community like vision for justice.

00:19:12

James Redenbaugh: So yeah, I think we're good. Okay.

00:19:15

Yoana: Okay.

00:19:24

James Redenbaugh: The publications, you said.

00:19:31

Yoana: You don't have.

00:19:31

James Redenbaugh: That many things to filter. I think maybe we just remove the filter bar. Cool. And I'm sorry if you sent this to me and I missed it, but do we have a folder of what you want to put on here?

00:19:56

Yoana: Oh, it's all in the Google Doc. So if you go to. If you scroll down on edits to the website tab, down to publications tab on page. Yeah, but you see like a lot of links. I spend a lot of time pulling these together and you can, you know, some of them I just give the link because I didn't have the time to like put the name, the title of the thing on the. On the Google Doc. But maybe Claude can pull those. Yes, because the titles are on the. Obviously on the website.

00:20:36

James Redenbaugh: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me just look at the. So do we. The ones that are Google Docs, do we just want a link to those Google Docs PDF?

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Yoana: Yeah, just link to the Google Doc. They're all view only, so it's fine. You can just provide that link.

00:21:02

James Redenbaugh: Great.

00:21:03

Yoana: You see my question on the right is about like the categories because I like the selected work on top and then rather I think you had something else on the website but the next category should be like. Or maybe the resolution should be resolutions. And then there's like this other writing section that is. And then right now. And there's featured in. Within the other writing. I think there's some articles, things that I've published and featured in is like where I didn't write it but people wrote about me, wrote something related to what I said. So that's one Way to do it. And then I was asking. Or should I put all the press in one section that includes both things that I wrote as opinion pieces and things that other people quoted me in. Yeah. What do you think?

00:21:56

James Redenbaugh: I think this, this way makes sense. And then in the featured in. We could also have like logos of these publications.

00:22:05

Yoana: Sure, yeah. I mean they're not huge, but yeah, you can. I mean it's also featured in. I mean mostly featured in the podcast. Like this is actually happening, which is under Selected Work, so you can pull something in Sacramento B, which is also under Selected Work, so you can pull some from the selected work too.

00:22:23

James Redenbaugh: Okay,.

00:22:26

Yoana: Cool. Okay.

00:22:31

James Redenbaugh: Yeah, I'll get those linked up.

00:22:35

Yoana: Do those. Does Claude have the capacity to find like news news clips, like actual like on the news, TV news, things that feature me? Because there aren't that many, of course, but there is maybe like a dozen and I don't have them. Like I can't figure out how to find them. When you Google my name, you know, they don't pop up because they're on the news and a lot of things are things that are also online on YouTube, but it's just hard to search because I'm not like the name. My name is not in the title of the thing, you know. Mm.

00:23:22

James Redenbaugh: Like, like tv news broadcast.

00:23:26

Yoana: Yeah.

00:23:29

James Redenbaugh: I'm asking claude because I have no idea.

00:23:33

Yoana: Yeah.

00:23:45

James Redenbaugh: What is your instagram by the way?

00:23:49

Yoana: Ioana y o a n a tch,.

00:24:00

James Redenbaugh: Tch. Great. I'm going to follow you.

00:24:12

Yoana: As of late. You're only gonna see baby photos. Before that was an organized, organized call to action. Now I just baby all day long.

00:24:33

James Redenbaugh: So yeah, Claude gave me a detailed answer. I can email this to you. There's free DIY websites which basically is just hunting things down on Google on YouTube if they happen to be there. Google videos, station websites, if you know the stations, you can search their websites. But I think that that's just going to be things that they happen to post publicly. And then there's paid services like PR companies that will have like transcripts of all news ever everywhere and they can search those transcripts and pull the clips. And so I don't know how much those cost, but there's some services that do that.

00:25:32

Yoana: That's pretty cool.

00:25:42

James Redenbaugh: I'll send you that via email. Okay, so those were my only little questions. The rest is pretty self explanatory. I'm going to do another pass here when we get off the phone and clean up our publications. But in terms of style and overall feel, How Are we liking the site?

00:26:20

Yoana: Yeah, I like it, I think. Let me just. Again. Yeah, no, I like that. I like it. I like the colors. I like that you did a map as a faded background. I might. I mean, this is part of why I think I want to be able to know how to edit it, because I might play around with it at some point and be like, what if it was a darker background? You know? But I think for now it's okay. I wanted to see the photos formatted differently on the, like, the offerings page. You know how it's like cutting off the photos?

00:27:04

James Redenbaugh: Yeah, yeah.

00:27:05

Yoana: And the bio page. Yeah, I wanted to see those formatted differently so that I can see what to keep. And then at the very bottom of the Google Doc, on the edit website, Edit to website page, yesterday, I ended up putting. I ended up highlighting for you some of the photo changes that I want to make. And so, like on Figma, if you open the Figma link, which I can put in the Google Doc, because it's not there right now.

00:27:39

James Redenbaugh: I have it right here.

00:27:42

Yoana: So, like, you can see, like, for example, I was just kind of playing around with different photos symbolizing different things. So for where we say new way of being, which I think is why is that on the very first page on the homepage, rather than the bridge image, there's like, there's a photo of me with this graffiti that says, the function of freedom is to free someone else. So we could try and see how that looks on the offerings page on the conflict resolution using, like. Basically, I tried to describe the different photos. You can use their own figma. If you have trouble identifying them, let me know and I can select the one that's. Yeah, with me in the red shirt there on the right side that you can use for complex resolution.

00:28:37

James Redenbaugh: Mm, Great. Where's the graffiti one that you were mentioning?

00:28:45

Yoana: Oh, girl. Scroll down, I think. Okay, so scroll down. Down a little bit. Down and there, that's it.

00:29:11

James Redenbaugh: Cool.

00:29:11

Yoana: I mean, it's not vertical, but I don't know. It's cute, huh? And the other ones I can walk you through real quick. Maybe you could. I can just walk you through them real quick so you can pull them from the figma.

00:29:28

James Redenbaugh: Yeah, sure.

00:29:34

Yoana: Okay. We did the red shirt then for our restorative justice, use the centerpiece with the flowers. I think right now you have it as you have it under conflict resolution, but you could just move that one down for policy advocacy. There's a photo on figma. Let me find it for you. I tried to, like, Copy straight from Figma. But it didn't work because I was in the car. I just didn't find a good way to do this. It. Why is it not here? Wait a second. Okay, I'm going to move to the next. I'll come back to the commission photo. Political campaigning is the one of the polling place where I'm kneeling on the ground. That's already on the website. You have that one. And then. Sorry, I'm side. Just moving it up. And then under ritual flower composition on redwood trees. Right. So on Figma, Feed her if she needs me. I mean I fed her right before she fell asleep. But if you go on Figma, there's two next to each other. The flower composition one and the redwood tree one. Can you see my cursor when you go on Figma?

00:31:54

James Redenbaugh: I'm not seeing it for some reason.

00:31:57

Yoana: So. Yeah, right there. Right on the left side. Yeah. Either one of those two you can use for the ritual.

00:32:06

James Redenbaugh: Cool.

00:32:07

Yoana: Offering flowers. The flower probably would be better. Yeah. And then let me just find this commission one real quick before I have to go. Is it not on here? Close. Oh, it's in the drive. That's where it's at. It's in the. The drive photos that I pulled for you. I'm putting in the chat the link. So it's the photo that. Right, the one that's fourth image titled 4, 4, 5, 9. Okay, daddy's gonna check your diaper and then I'm gonna see if you need it. Okay. But we just ate like 45 minutes ago. Okay, so okay, four, four, five, nine.

00:33:36

James Redenbaugh: Yeah, I got it.

00:33:37

Yoana: Yeah, yeah. So and then there's one where on the. On the curly. On the website where we do the like. What do you call that when you'll touch hands in the center. You can just move that one somewhere else or scrap it for now and we'll see where we can put it. But it's a cute one, so I do want to use it somewhere.

00:33:58

James Redenbaugh: Okay.

00:34:03

Yoana: This product somewhere I can. You can put it somewhere. But you can put somewhere. So. Yeah, yeah, see if you can. Yeah, see if you can make some more changes. And then. Yeah, send me the Claude stuff and the GitHub stuff and I'll see how far I can get before you come home.

00:34:21

James Redenbaugh: Okay.

00:34:22

Yoana: Does that sound good?

00:34:24

James Redenbaugh: Sounds good.

00:34:25

Yoana: And then you say you're coming on June 12th.

00:34:28

James Redenbaugh: Yes.

00:34:29

Yoana: Okay. So I can. If I wanted, I can schedule something for the following week.

00:34:34

James Redenbaugh: Yep.

00:34:35

Yoana: Okay, great.

00:34:36

James Redenbaugh: That'd be great. Awesome.

00:34:38

Yoana: Thanks so much, James. Have an incredible time. I know it's stressful now, but thank you so much. When it's over.

00:34:45

James Redenbaugh: Yeah, we will.

00:34:46

Yoana: Okay.

00:34:47

James Redenbaugh: Great to see you. Thank you so much for being flexible. And I'll send you an update before we sign off.

00:34:53

Yoana: Thank you. Thanks so much. Bye.

00:34:55

James Redenbaugh: Bye. Take care.