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Moenja Schijven: Hey, how are you?

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Roarke Clinton: I'm good, thanks. Back at my usual desk.

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Moenja Schijven: Where were you before then?

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Roarke Clinton: Oh, I was. I was up on the North Shore of Oahu at my family's beach house and it was kind of working from there and yeah, it's a beautiful place, but there's no real monitor there, so it's nicer to have this set up.

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Moenja Schijven: Yeah. Yeah, nice. Okay. Were you there just for a little break or do you go there often?

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Roarke Clinton: Yeah, I go there kind often, but this particular one was for my birthday. Did a. I had a birthday week and had some friends up there and it was cool.

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Moenja Schijven: Okay. Happy belated birthday.

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Roarke Clinton: Thank you.

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Moenja Schijven: How old did you. Okay, nice.

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Mariko Pitts: Yeah.

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Moenja Schijven: Still not too close to 40 yet?

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Roarke Clinton: Nope. But I'm on the wrong side of the. I guess.

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Moenja Schijven: Yeah. So did you have a look at them?

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Roarke Clinton: I actually haven't looked at all yet. Yeah, I was just kind of. Hey, you wanna. I guess I'll follow you and really jumped in.

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Moenja Schijven: Yeah, I mainly focused on the first three sections to kind of give them more feeling to it and more details, more color, more. It is. Marika. Hey, Marika.

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Mariko Pitts: Good to see you guys.

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Roarke Clinton: Hey, good to see you too.

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Mariko Pitts: How's it going?

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Roarke Clinton: Good. Thanks for joining.

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Moenja Schijven: Good, good.

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Mariko Pitts: Yeah, definitely. Glad to be here. All right. How we do for the last two days?

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Roarke Clinton: Yeah, good.

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Moenja Schijven: So we just got into the FIGMA file.

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Mariko Pitts: I think Rourke is breaking up.

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Roarke Clinton: I'm going to turn my camera off. Hopefully it helps.

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Mariko Pitts: Or is it?

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Moenja Schijven: Yeah.

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Mariko Pitts: Okay. I can't tell if it was me or work those times.

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Roarke Clinton: Yeah, let's. Let's turn the storm just because we're so distributed. Maybe it'll help a little bit. I'm following. Okay, okay, I'm following. Munia.

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Mariko Pitts: Got it. Okay, let me pull up Figma then.

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Roarke Clinton: Oh, let me send you the. The file so it's easier for you to find, if that helps.

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Mariko Pitts: I got it logged in. Are we still in the same. The FIGMA link? I'm still logged in from last time. I just kept it up. Okay.

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Roarke Clinton: Okay.

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Mariko Pitts: All right, let me just refresh everything, make sure. Okay.

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Moenja Schijven: Yeah, I see you there. So you can follow me again.

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Mariko Pitts: Yeah, hold on a second. Let me get in. Gotcha.

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Moenja Schijven: Okay. Yeah, so I mainly focused on the first three sections that we discussed last week over here. Huh. And there's a light version and a dark version.

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Mariko Pitts: Yeah, I like the light.

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Moenja Schijven: Yeah. Yeah, it gives a different feeling. But we could have that, you know, that feature maybe in the. In the nights it switches to dark.

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Mariko Pitts: Yeah, I like that. Too. That's cool.

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Moenja Schijven: Yeah. Also. Yeah. Maybe we can even like depending on the time zone you are, if the earth is in the night or in the day.

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Mariko Pitts: Oh, that's fine.

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Moenja Schijven: Yeah. And then I worked out a little bit more of the user interaction of the map over here, how it looks when you open the project. Maybe we can have a overview of all the projects and then also an option to submit. Yep.

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Mariko Pitts: And the categories on that. The categories were kind of like those subcategories were talking about. Like if it was, you know, to search for like educational ones or regenerative agriculture, you know, something like that. Different projects. Is that what the. Is that what those categories can be.

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Moenja Schijven: Here at the bottom? And now that I'm thinking we should also add a search button, right? Like a search bar.

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Mariko Pitts: Yeah, I think search or maybe like a drop down with categorized or alphabetical potential. Different categories or something that they can scroll and choose and then it comes up or something.

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Moenja Schijven: Yeah, because how many categories do you think there will be?

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Mariko Pitts: I don't know, I gotta do some research. But it probably at least 10. I mean there's projects like, you know, maybe. And the other thing could be like tags. What if we do. What if we allow tags and then that can be easy for search. Yeah. Someone says like types in ocean. Maybe projects that are related to the ocean or something can come up depending on tags.

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Moenja Schijven: Yes. And I think definitely in the overview of all the projects, I don't make a note of that. More space for more category.

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Mariko Pitts: Yeah, but do you want them all laid out or is it like a Dropbox, something you click on or it opens up so with a list that you can scroll through or something. Something more simple, I think.

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Roarke Clinton: Yeah, there's kind of like a balance between showing people that there are categories and giving people access to all the categories.

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Mariko Pitts: Oh yeah.

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Roarke Clinton: You know, so maybe in the main screen you might have, you know, the top three categories so that they can click through and see that there's something to find and like. And have like the all. Which kind of launches that thing where you get to see all of them together. Or. Or maybe start to have a drop down where the all kind of shows all the categories in a drop down that you can just scroll through easily. I was kind of wondering. It is cool that you can see that those so prominently under the world right there. I was imagining what it would also look like. Maybe a version where it's actually at the top of the stack of projects on the right. Yeah. And it would align with the other field that you already have as well. But I don't know.

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Moenja Schijven: Like over here.

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Roarke Clinton: Yeah, yeah. Just some ideas to chime in. Keep going.

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Moenja Schijven: I can immediately do that for you.

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Roarke Clinton: Yeah, it cleans it up.

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Moenja Schijven: Okay. Yeah. And then the buttons here on the left we have join the movements. So there are quite a few like things people can click on. Right. Like there's a menu that submits all projects. Find the most. I'm trying to find the best way that it still feels organized. I do like this actually more here on the top.

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Mariko Pitts: I think that's cool. When. If I click join the movement, where is it going to?

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Moenja Schijven: I'm thinking for this one, then it goes into the sign up page maybe.

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Mariko Pitts: Yeah, but is that relevant on that page or should we keep it to private projects only on that page?

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Moenja Schijven: Okay. Yeah, yeah.

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Mariko Pitts: Because I'm just like, it's almost like submit your project with his button. You know, because for this it's almost like if it takes them off to join or sign up for like the mailing list or to, you know, another page where it shows a bunch of options of how to join the movement. I feel like it just is a distraction. It takes people away from that. The focus of all projects.

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Moenja Schijven: Yes. It better submit your project and then.

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Mariko Pitts: Maybe we can come up with something a little bit more creative around that and more inspirational around that. But I think, yeah, the idea is for them to mainly submit a project.

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Roarke Clinton: How about submit your movement?

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Mariko Pitts: Yeah, no, but you're on the right track. You know what I mean? I'm not feeling that one. But you're right on the right track with something creative like that. Something inspirational like submit your initiative or you know, or just something really cool. Initiative isn't necessarily cool, but something. No, let's see.

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Roarke Clinton: I see that though. That page should be all about those focused on it and it's doing. Yeah, doing it.

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Moenja Schijven: Do you feel this is enough space for the project or.

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Mariko Pitts: I think so. What's that limited in like word count to like, is that like less than 150 words or something like that?

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Moenja Schijven: Well, I've added a little slider here.

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Mariko Pitts: Okay.

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Moenja Schijven: Eventually.

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Mariko Pitts: Okay, I would do that. Yeah. If it's a slide and it can move, I think that's fine. Yeah.

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Moenja Schijven: And then there's location, impact, the website and social media.

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Mariko Pitts: Maybe I should. I think if people come to our page and they look at the projects, there should be another section underneath like, or after Impact. That's a call to action. Like open like if they're we're hiring or if, you know Something that like, showcases like, join our project or something like that for, you know, or open. It's not like it's a clickable thing, but it's something that just shows that we're, you know, some kind of request or offer or ask. And like, there's a section for that request, offer, ask, or something. And it's like we're hiring or something. And so when someone sees that they would. They would be a call to action to go to their website for a reason or something.

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Roarke Clinton: Custom cta.

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Mariko Pitts: Yeah, something. You know what I mean? But there's. It's got to be short things and. And maybe we can give them examples when they're submitting of what that section could look like. Seeking volunteers or seeking. You know, it's like that's another way for them to do a quick call to action. Because I want to make sure that even though all the projects are coming on, like, but it just look pretty in the whole movement. Is that what is the thing? So a lot of people need support. They need somebody, you know, So I want to make sure there's an area for that, for the request.

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Moenja Schijven: What about a button of like, join?

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Mariko Pitts: Well, you won't know what to join if they don't make a statement of what they're looking for.

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Moenja Schijven: Right.

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Mariko Pitts: So it's almost like maybe we can.

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Moenja Schijven: Have a sentence over here at the bottom, like, we need your support, or we need donation or we need volunteers, and then maybe a big button. Join us.

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Mariko Pitts: Yeah, yeah, exactly, join. It can be Join us. And it would take them directly to wherever they want them to go. Right. So. And they can choose the. The link that button would take them to. I agree. But then it's just got to be something that they can write in, like a sentence, very small amount, you know, we got to limit the. To keep a succinct impact call to action. You know, hiring video editors could be one of them. And it's something, you know, they can. They could change if they wanted. They could submit the change or something, you know, I don't know or not, but I'm just thinking out loud of.

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Moenja Schijven: Yeah, of course. Yeah.

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Mariko Pitts: You know, if I'm coming to the. How can I support you if I like it or not? You know, like, what's. What are you saying to me? You know, you're showcasing your project, and then it's like, well, I'm interested. You know, what are you looking for? You know, maybe it's just we're trying to reach our goal. We have a goal of reaching a Hundred thousand dollars by blah, blah, donate, you know. Okay, great. And I might just go donate because I read about your project, you know.

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Moenja Schijven: Yeah.

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Mariko Pitts: So something like that, yeah, I think will be very special and it would make it be more of an incentive for projects to actually add their project to it.

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Roarke Clinton: You know, submit stuff to you guys.

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Mariko Pitts: Yeah, yeah. It's a nice way to give back, but they have to give us a call to action. They have to be very clear about it, what they want, what they're speaking.

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Moenja Schijven: So that's something also going on to the submit page. Like we should start thinking what are all the. What is the form? Like what are all the sections that people have to ask? There's a space here I created for like an image they can add. Is it just one image or.

00:15:48

Roarke Clinton: I'd imagine that over time you'd want pretty fine grain ability to change which ones were showing up when it loads. So like you could highlight different projects or set it as random or set it as most recent. But you might want. So maybe just a requirement we could add there Munya is know. Add something so that we can define which. Which are showing up when the user lands on this page. If they're like specific things that. That we want Marie want at a certain time in the month or year or where. Yeah, yeah.

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Moenja Schijven: And also what about if projects finish, you take them all for. We keep it on but in the archive. Maybe we have an archive.

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Mariko Pitts: Yeah, I think so.

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Moenja Schijven: Yeah. Because it's still nice to showcase the projects that happened in the past, but then they won't be able maybe to join anymore or they don't need volunteers maybe anymore.

00:17:00

Mariko Pitts: Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah. You think about that.

00:17:04

Moenja Schijven: Maybe we can ask like something how long the project lasts for. Maybe you can have options three months, six months, one year.

00:17:15

Mariko Pitts: Yeah, that's true. And then it automatically or archives or something like that.

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Moenja Schijven: Yeah.

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Mariko Pitts: And then maybe we can actually see like completed projects. Maybe that's in the category completed projects. And people can see the ones that have actually finished or reached their goal or something, you know.

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Moenja Schijven: Yeah, yeah. And then we can assurance and complete it.

00:17:37

Mariko Pitts: Yeah, I like that.

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Roarke Clinton: Yeah. Are you saying something like every. You could set a duration and it automatically asks them hey. Or sends them an email saying requesting an update. So like an update section in each project and then if they don't update it, then it archives.

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Moenja Schijven: Yeah, it could be. I thought they can already choose from the beginning if they want to list the projects under current for three months, six months or one year for example. And then it automatically, I don't know if there's a system for it, but automatically goes to archive or to complete a project. That sounds good, but is that possible?

00:18:26

Roarke Clinton: Yeah, I think that if we wanted to set up an automated system for that, we could.

00:18:31

Moenja Schijven: Yeah, yeah. Because it's. Yeah, yeah. Like you said, it's important to showcase like the really current projects at the front, right?

00:18:42

Mariko Pitts: Yeah, I think so.

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Roarke Clinton: I think active stuff like if they're. I don't know if you guys ever use Kickstarter or any of those other systems.

00:18:50

Mariko Pitts: Oh yeah.

00:18:51

Roarke Clinton: You're always looking for like updates from your projects and. Or invested in. And the people who do that the most can get highlighted more.

00:19:03

Mariko Pitts: Yeah. That's interesting. It's an interesting concept to add to this if that's the case. Like how would we. Based on the timeline is actually how it's showcased more like if it's like if I. Let's say my call to action. My organization, my project is seeking to raise $50,000 and I need to do it within, you know, let's say 20 days and I submit my project and to get more visibility because it's with a 20 day thing and it's a goal to fundraising. Maybe it's one of the ones that showcase faster or more in the front based off of the, you know, whatever algorithm or however this works for which projects are kind of showcased before you start clicking on the map. Or is it.

00:19:46

Mariko Pitts: Or actually is the map the projects that are going to be showcasing on the side dependent on where the earth is? Like if you move the Earth, like new projects will just kind of show up. Right. Based off of where that. Like the continent that we're kind of moving them at. Okay. Okay, that's fine. I think that's the original idea. But I guess since we're thinking about this call to action piece or maybe active projects that let's say maybe have a smaller or tighter deadline or something. Maybe there's a way to showcase them. Or is that like a button? Maybe that's like one of the category buttons where it showcases like. I don't know. Like.

00:20:33

Moenja Schijven: Yeah. We should also probably have an option that people can look per continent. Like they type in maybe the country.

00:20:42

Mariko Pitts: Yeah, I like that too. Like the location stuff. Yeah. Just pull up from Africa.

00:20:48

Moenja Schijven: Yeah. But then it's also easy to just drag the map.

00:20:53

Mariko Pitts: I know, I like that too. Yeah, I think let's just let them use the map instead of typing it in.

00:20:59

Roarke Clinton: Yeah, like that.

00:21:00

Mariko Pitts: I like it. Let them play with the map on the globe. Yeah, yeah, Turn the damn globe. Yeah, that's better. I think that's better.

00:21:11

Roarke Clinton: Figuring out the filtering and sorting strategy and what you show first and what you give options to show. Like, I mean, there could be most recent or old, you know, oldest projects or archived projects. You know, you might want to see, like, all it in many different ways. I guess we'd want to determine what the most important thing for us to share is first and prioritize that and then, you know, enable the user to also find other things to sort the projects by. I was imagining also three, you know, in the map view, there might be what is being shown on the right. So there's four projects currently shown, but there might actually be within the map view, there might be like 50, 30 projects potentially visible. Right. So maybe there's three levels of. Of icons.

00:22:14

Roarke Clinton: There's like a white icon, which just means that there's a project somewhere. And. And then there's, you know, the lit. Like a. A different color icon, which means it. It fits the category. Like it's the most relevant. But then there's also the ones that are being shown which are at the. The far right. So I'm not sure if that's necessary or if we could just. Do, you know, if you were to, like. If I was to scroll on the right here, would I be able to scroll that munia?

00:22:48

Mariko Pitts: Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

00:22:49

Moenja Schijven: I thought so. Yeah.

00:22:51

Roarke Clinton: Okay, I see that.

00:22:52

Mariko Pitts: Is that why the. Yeah. Okay. The little thing is just kind of keep moving down to see what's all in that area.

00:22:58

Roarke Clinton: I like when you used over here, you kind of use this. Yeah. Like, what if there was something over here on the right like that indicated. And maybe there was actually one of these maybe showed up halfway, like down. So that made it. I don't know. I also like that it so fits the picture so well, so.

00:23:27

Mariko Pitts: I know it does. I like it.

00:23:32

Roarke Clinton: But it kind of indicates that there's more to see if there's more to it.

00:23:36

Mariko Pitts: Yeah. Down for the design aspect. I get it.

00:23:38

Moenja Schijven: Like, I actually took screenshots of the year of the inspiration site.

00:23:44

Roarke Clinton: Yep. Yeah.

00:23:45

Mariko Pitts: Yeah, yeah.

00:23:46

Moenja Schijven: They show on. They have bigger space.

00:23:50

Mariko Pitts: Yeah, I think that's kind of too big of space. There's the smaller pictures. Yeah, I like the way you did it. It's kind of like equal in size for the, you know, for the text and then the photo. I like that better.

00:24:08

Roarke Clinton: Yeah.

00:24:09

Moenja Schijven: I think they don't have so many projects at the moment, I feel.

00:24:14

Mariko Pitts: Yeah. They needed it. Yeah, yeah.

00:24:18

Roarke Clinton: They are showing on theirs like the bottom card or the bottom. The third one is cut off. So it indicates that you could scroll. Probably.

00:24:27

Moenja Schijven: Yeah.

00:24:37

Roarke Clinton: Just consider.

00:24:49

Moenja Schijven: Yeah.

00:24:56

Mariko Pitts: What do you think from a storage perspective though, with all this coming in right now? It's essentially just an image, some text, so it's probably not that big a deal. But is it something we should be thinking about? Like how much is storage is gonna. What's gonna happen with the storage stuff here with all that we're adding in general?

00:25:24

Moenja Schijven: Do you know about it?

00:25:26

Roarke Clinton: I don't think it's going to be that much of a storage issue. I think that it could be. I don't. It's not. I'll ask, but it's not registering as an issue. From what I know about webflow.

00:25:42

Mariko Pitts: Do we. We just pay for a certain amount of space in the cloud, right, with you guys?

00:25:46

Roarke Clinton: Yeah, I think that the service that you guys pay for I'm pretty sure would cover, you know, a lot of different projects. I would see each of these projects as kind of a. A collection item in webflow and they would be, you know, part of that storage system. So I don't know. I'd have to double check with Ivan. But I think that it's probably within the boundary of what they ask for or what it covers. One of the things that I was thinking mun is would somebody really, you know, when I'm looking at this right here, I would. I would imagine that they would all be white. And then if I was to hover over one, it might have that kind of pink or that color change only on hover. But then if like selected, it would automatically change to the other view. Right.

00:26:46

Roarke Clinton: So that's a hover state that you're doing.

00:26:48

Moenja Schijven: Yes. So this is to show like you can either hover on the map and.

00:26:54

Mariko Pitts: It changes where project is related to it. Yeah.

00:26:59

Roarke Clinton: Cool.

00:26:59

Mariko Pitts: That's what I thought it was too. So that's cool. Yeah, because that's the inspiration site does the same thing, right? Isn't that what it does?

00:27:06

Moenja Schijven: Exactly, yeah. And then when you click on it automatically opens up into this view and you can close it. Or I think that maybe you can also directly already click on the next project in the map.

00:27:25

Roarke Clinton: Wondering if. Yeah, I like the ability to just click on the next project or close it. I wonder if once you click on. If you're on the left side, you know, with the multiple projects view and you click one, if it centers the map on that spot. So like it would rotate the Earth to be. Have that project at the very middle.

00:27:51

Moenja Schijven: The. The map moves and the project is centered like that.

00:27:57

Roarke Clinton: Yeah. So, like, I would imagine, like, while you're looking at this view, you know, you've probably rotated the earth a few times in the. In the left. The other one. Yeah, right here. So if I was looking here, I'm rotating the Earth, I'm scrolling through projects, I'm hovering over them, and as I'm hovering, I'm seeing them light up on the. On the Earth. The moment I click one where it's on the Earth or where it's on the right side here, it launches this view, but then it essentially brings it to the middle. You know, it brings the project to the middle and it focuses and the whole Earth kind of orients towards that.

00:28:36

Moenja Schijven: Yeah, yeah, I like that. If that's possible.

00:28:41

Roarke Clinton: Yeah, I think that it would be.

00:28:43

Moenja Schijven: Yeah, yeah, I like that.

00:28:51

Roarke Clinton: I wanted to mention, you know, I. I think you saw it Munia, but I hadn't, you know, you brought it up here. Wanted to talk. And the interaction between these different kind of views of the homepage, maybe could. I know that I wrote about it a little bit, but what you were thinking.

00:29:17

Moenja Schijven: Yeah, I like that idea. And then it is also what I had in mind. Explain to Mariko quickly what we're talking about. So over here, there's the homepage or the homepage view. But then the idea is, let's say we have a lot of things to highlight. So you would only see this, that when you start scrolling, more of these cards come up.

00:29:46

Mariko Pitts: Oh, okay.

00:29:48

Moenja Schijven: But then you keep scrolling, and then there's a moment that you feel like there's a little friction, which is crawling, and it suddenly shows, like, the beginning of the map, and then it flips completely to the map section. That makes sense. It's like, not as smooth.

00:30:08

Mariko Pitts: Yeah.

00:30:09

Moenja Schijven: It's not like you can scroll endlessly, but it kind of guides you into the. When you reach a certain point, it's falling. Drags you into the map.

00:30:23

Mariko Pitts: I see you. Okay. I like that. It's cool.

00:30:27

Moenja Schijven: But then how do we go to the next after this? Because obviously that's something you should think about. Obviously, when you scroll, you're scrolling through the project.

00:30:38

Roarke Clinton: I think that depends on where your mouse is. If you're. If your mouse is on this projects, it would scroll there, but if your mouse is on them there, it might do the same thing as above.

00:30:49

Moenja Schijven: Yeah. Okay. And then it goes to this one. Yeah. So what I thought is maybe we can have two options where you show the principles and the value and then change. But then I want to create icons also for the value because there are eight. Yeah, there are eight values and eight principles.

00:31:23

Mariko Pitts: Oh, perfect. Yeah, let's have them swap over. Yeah, that's good.

00:31:27

Moenja Schijven: And then for each value, we can also have a little extra text if it's needed. So when you hover on them, the card flips and shows more information.

00:31:36

Mariko Pitts: Okay, perfect. And would that little thing be scrollable or was it clickable? Is it just like if I hover over it and I get the information, is it like if it's longer, I can scroll within that, like scroll down to see more text or is it like you click on it to open it up? Like a pop up if it has more text? Yeah.

00:32:02

Moenja Schijven: I think it should probably be a pop up. What do you think, Rob?

00:32:08

Roarke Clinton: Yeah, I. I'm not sure yet. It depends on how much you want to show there. What you want to.

00:32:19

Moenja Schijven: Yeah, because these principles, they don't have that much text that they would all fit in the card.

00:32:26

Mariko Pitts: Okay.

00:32:28

Moenja Schijven: But it depends if you want to have more text there and go deeper into each value or principle, then we can think about how to shrink it.

00:32:39

Mariko Pitts: I just don't remember what the values say. Like the text for the. Behind the values when you click on them on the regular website right now.

00:32:48

Moenja Schijven: Okay. Yeah, I will have a look.

00:32:51

Mariko Pitts: Okay.

00:32:55

Moenja Schijven: Yeah. And then also here, light and a dark version.

00:33:01

Mariko Pitts: Yeah, I like the. If we can do the night and daytime mode. That's really cool. I like both. That's a really good way because the. Even our team, some like the black, some like more of a lighter profile. But the fact that we can go from both, it's really great because it's almost like night and day. It's space to, you know, sunlight, it's sunset to sunrise. This is the kind of feel I think it's really important for the whole movement. And this is a perfect way to play both to do a night and a day mode. I didn't even think about that before, but like, you totally brought that up and I was like, oh, it's an aha. Which makes sense to us because. Because our, even our brand design can be darker and some can be lighter. We keep the brand colors, elements.

00:33:39

Mariko Pitts: But, you know, I like some of the darker mode as well. You know, space colors and things like that. It's important for our branding element to incorporate both the light and the dark.

00:33:53

Moenja Schijven: Yeah, I like that too. And it also gives a feeling of yeah. There's so many people from all around the world coming to this website.

00:34:02

Roarke Clinton: Right.

00:34:02

Moenja Schijven: Like people in the night because of this. I guess now we're talking about it. Maybe just a fun little thing. We can even have like. Fun.

00:34:14

Roarke Clinton: Yeah. Yeah.

00:34:21

Mariko Pitts: That's cool.

00:34:23

Roarke Clinton: I was imagining for a moment, like if you were to look at it and you were looking from space and the sun was kind of moving around the earth and you sort of got a sense for where that was and the. The it was. It was oriented maybe to even where you were. I don't know how that would work.

00:34:43

Mariko Pitts: Like crazy technology.

00:34:47

Roarke Clinton: Yeah.

00:34:49

Mariko Pitts: Just fun. Well.

00:35:01

Roarke Clinton: That'D be really.

00:35:02

Moenja Schijven: Yeah. There's like these daylight shaping, you know, those. Those alarms when you wake up and the light. Yeah, yeah. Start to become like day life. And.

00:35:17

Mariko Pitts: Yeah.

00:35:19

Roarke Clinton: It'd be so wild if for me it was, you know. I guess you're in Brisbane still, right? Munya. So it'd be like a different view. Like the. You'd almost see the sun oriented in a different way or the. The whole page oriented in a different way for you than I would. And then. Same thing as Marika.

00:35:43

Mariko Pitts: Yeah.

00:35:44

Roarke Clinton: Anyway.

00:35:44

Mariko Pitts: Yeah.

00:35:44

Moenja Schijven: It's so weird to me that I'm already on Thursday.

00:35:50

Mariko Pitts: Oh, yeah.

00:35:50

Moenja Schijven: The time difference is so big.

00:35:53

Mariko Pitts: Yeah. Yeah. Because it's Thursday morning for you.

00:35:57

Moenja Schijven: Well, it's almost midday already.

00:36:00

Mariko Pitts: Is it? Oh, yeah, I guess so.

00:36:02

Moenja Schijven: 10:30, but yeah. Feels like middle.

00:36:05

Mariko Pitts: Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's crazy.

00:36:08

Roarke Clinton: This.

00:36:10

Moenja Schijven: Okay.

00:36:13

Mariko Pitts: Yeah. I love it. I think this is great. I think we just need to figure out. Maybe Rourke and I, we got to figure out kind of like, what's that form look like and how we're. What makes sense for what. In what information we're gathering, you know, and also the benefit of it, like, as I was saying, for the call to action. Like, I think it's important for, you know, why would a organization want to put their project up? You know, the good question to ask, like, why would they want to submit that? So that other people in the whole amendment can see it.

00:36:48

Roarke Clinton: Yeah. It reminds me of, you know, if I was looking to this, it reminds me of a solution called Product Hunt, where they kind of showcase products from around the world and it become El Shom. You guys can check it out yourself just to kind of get a sense for it. But people submit their products all the time to this thing and they highlight them and it's. The whole thing is about highlighting products. And.

00:37:16

Mariko Pitts: What is the name, really? Yeah, yeah.

00:37:18

Roarke Clinton: Product Hunt. Okay, let's check it out. Check it out for a second and just get, give it, get a sense for it because it really is kind of like activating and giving people the floor and that's the, it's to like celebrate that kind of thing. And it reminds me of this, you know, in a way, if we are leaning into this, how do we celebrate the project? Do we celebrate the projects around the world that are whole movement directed and if we're taking on that kind of content, then there's a submit form there that might inspire some of our things.

00:37:59

Mariko Pitts: Yeah, that's interesting. Okay. And people are like upvoting and commenting on it, huh?

00:38:04

Roarke Clinton: Yeah, it's very active.

00:38:07

Mariko Pitts: Interesting. Okay, but what's the community like that brings people here? Like how do you know is it based off of like developers? Like what's the. What is it kind of like who's the audience that's using it?

00:38:24

Roarke Clinton: Not one. I mean they're mostly like people trying to create products and they want to show, they want to figure out how to market their product to the world better. So there's, they're like looking for different venues or ways to do that and this is one of them.

00:38:42

Mariko Pitts: So that's technological AI type stuff, right? Like.

00:38:46

Roarke Clinton: Yeah, yeah, I mean I've seen everything there. But yeah, it's mostly like products that in that sense, digital products. The, the way that I'm seeing it here or through our lens is, you know, we have people who are doing holo movement related projects all around the world and they want a way to be highlighted and be celebrated and draw more connection and test, you know, see their work. So that's kind of what I was imagining. There is analogy there, analogous connection there. But.

00:39:29

Mariko Pitts: Yeah, this is good to see. Yeah, Just kind of taking a look at there, I mean it's pretty dry. It's just simple, technical. It's just like. Okay, but I get the, it's the premise of what they're doing.

00:39:44

Roarke Clinton: Yeah.

00:39:54

Mariko Pitts: So it's kind of like they do a little product pitch. So there's a large section for text and then there's basically voting. So the community is like voting on the thing, only an up, not a down. Right. So there's no. And then essentially updates and chat functionality. Right. Comments. Oh, interesting.

00:40:24

Roarke Clinton: There's ways to put in chat like leave, you know, comments and systems into a project like that don't really require like I've had forgotten the exact tools that I have used before, but I know I've done it before where I embedded like a publication with a chat a third Party chat experience and people could just sign in with their Facebook or whatever and create comments there and their whole community was talking. So.

00:40:59

Mariko Pitts: Okay, I like it. It's interesting. Yeah. I gotta sit with that a little bit more and see kind of what we can build around that or with that type of thinking. Okay. All right, well done. I think this is great. I think the next thing would be good to see is kind of how we're going to work in the ambassador and network part. The other network organizations. Like any thoughts, any off the top thoughts of like how you think we could design something like that?

00:41:32

Moenja Schijven: Not yet. Because I don't really have an understanding good enough. I think of what the systems and connections all look like and how many people are involved and organizations are. There's also going to be more organizations, right? Or you have to update them.

00:41:54

Mariko Pitts: Yeah, more organizations. And then I think what's the thing is it's like there can be a lot of people that are ambassadors that would, you know, like for instance, my entire. The core team are ambassadors. Each one of us are ambassadors. We should also, you know, we should have, you know, our headshots and then whatever a little bit about what we do. But we're labeled as a hollow woman ambassador. And then there are. I mean, I've got a former Miss Universe in Europe that, you know, came to our visa event that is like an influencer and wants to be a social influencer for the whole movement. That's going to lead to an ambassador there. You know, there's filmmakers, you know, we're going to the Illuminate Film Festival in Santa Barbara in the beginning of May where key sponsors. There is like, there's a lot.

00:42:40

Moenja Schijven: Yeah.

00:42:40

Mariko Pitts: So where do I, you know, highlight the people of the movement, the leaders of the movement? You know, these are leaders. You know, maybe it's just like my heart is in film. You know, it could be a simple sentence that they can come up with. You know, I'm an environmental activist, you know, and that's it. And it's their name and like their link to a website or something.

00:43:03

Moenja Schijven: Yeah. Actually, I don't know what James availability is currently, but he. I'm pretty sure he works with program that can create like a whole ecosystem. He has done this in the past.

00:43:20

Mariko Pitts: Oh, really?

00:43:21

Moenja Schijven: Yeah. And it's like it can go really complex, but also you can have like different views as well. So I'm interested to maybe talk with him. Roy, do you know maybe when. What is his availability is this week or next week?

00:43:37

Roarke Clinton: Yeah, think it depends on the country. It depends on his stomach. Yeah, he's been feeling really sick and.

00:43:46

Mariko Pitts: Oh, crap. Is it. Where was he. Was he in Thailand? I can't remember. Yeah, Thailand.

00:43:52

Roarke Clinton: And he might have caught, like, a bug and. Or maybe some kind of thing going on where a virus. I don't know.

00:44:01

Mariko Pitts: Oh, man.

00:44:03

Roarke Clinton: Hurting. And he's actually gonna try to make this meeting, but he just had to crash, so.

00:44:10

Mariko Pitts: Okay.

00:44:11

Roarke Clinton: He'll. I'm pretty sure he'll be there for our Monday meeting for sure.

00:44:15

Moenja Schijven: Okay.

00:44:16

Mariko Pitts: Okay.

00:44:16

Roarke Clinton: Yeah, I'll make. I'll touch base with him for that. But. Yeah, so I'm. I haven't seen that community thing that you were mentioning because I think that it probably happened before I jumped on with you guys, but, you know, makes me think of just, like, how can we show people's faces and in action? And, you know, we've. If we look at the whole home page and different views and the different views that it has is like the overview Pro, you know, overview, and then the map of the projects, and then there's, you know, the various values going on. And I feel like there's a. That section of this. The network, what you're talking about. It's just like, how do we highlight individuals? And in the moment, we've got that image of, like, the circles and circles of people. Maybe there's.

00:45:12

Roarke Clinton: Maybe it's done through circles. And it's kind of like, you know, as your mouse is scrolling over all of these little, like, circles, they start to expand almost like an Apple Watch icon.

00:45:27

Mariko Pitts: Like.

00:45:27

Roarke Clinton: Like the one in the middle of your cursor might get bigger and. Or maybe they're rectangular and there's a whole bunch of, like, different cards everywhere showcasing them. Or. I don't know. There was. There's just. It's popping up to me as. Like, how do we show just tons of people? And, you know, as. As. As you're kind of. You land on that page, you can kind of see their names or their actions or their interests. Well, my screen went gray.

00:46:03

Moenja Schijven: Yeah. Maybe like, also looking at the inspiration of the wave.

00:46:10

Roarke Clinton: Oh, yeah, Cool. There's that one where it's moving a little bit. Yeah. Yeah, there's another one. You know, if we. If we wanted to categorize people, you could. I think there might be another one where. Scroll down a little bit. Munia. Actually, let me. I'm gonna see if I can find. Yeah. The thing that we actually didn't get to, like this part. I don't know if that thing, like, there is.

00:46:51

Moenja Schijven: Where are You. Oh, yeah.

00:46:56

Mariko Pitts: Okay. Hold on a second. I'm going to follow you. Am I? Should I follow Rourke now?

00:47:00

Roarke Clinton: Yeah, yeah.

00:47:01

Mariko Pitts: Okay.

00:47:03

Roarke Clinton: So we never built this on the wave, but maybe there's some use here where we have the network of people who are focused on a given subject. Because that was a really interesting part of the Earth. One page, which. Which I thought was amazing, where they highlighted. We're not doing the interaction here, but they highlighted individuals who are focused in a given area. It wasn't like they were all on the same project, but they were all in the same, like, interest space, you know?

00:47:44

Moenja Schijven: Yeah. Remember that?

00:47:46

Roarke Clinton: And maybe that's too much. Maybe it's too focused. I just wanted to call it out as something that could be an interesting thing to consider. If you wanted to also highlight holo movements, interests, as opposed to specific projects, you could do that kind of an overlaid way. Individuals. I'll go back to following you, Munia.

00:48:20

Moenja Schijven: Yeah, I like that idea as well. Yeah. I do also feel that maybe it gets too complex when we're all gonna try and connect everyone in different ways. And maybe we should focus one way to connect them and to categorize them. And it could be like the different focus points of the hollow movement, the environment.

00:48:43

Mariko Pitts: What if. What if we did a different view of the map of the world? And then you can change to, like, click on a bathroom. And then it's like you click on, like, if someone is in Africa, you can click on that, and then it'll showcase the headshot and what they do.

00:49:01

Moenja Schijven: So that is more by continent.

00:49:04

Mariko Pitts: Yeah. Because the ambassadors are going to be locations. It's like. It's a part of that. It could be kind of similar where we. There's projects and then there's ambassadors. What do you think about that?

00:49:18

Moenja Schijven: I like it. I'm just thinking it doesn't get too much interaction in all one. But then we could switch. Have a button like, switch to, like, from projects to investments. Right. And then it changes the whole.

00:49:35

Mariko Pitts: Yeah, that's what I was saying. It just changes. It would swap to, like, ambassadors or something from project.

00:49:42

Roarke Clinton: That's an interesting idea that. Using that bottom space like you'd had before. Yeah.

00:49:50

Mariko Pitts: Using the what space?

00:49:52

Roarke Clinton: That b. Right below the Earth. The bottom. I was just referring to it where she's working right now.

00:49:59

Mariko Pitts: Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. I mean, that could be a really cool way to do it. And then you just see the people. And so it's like, wow, the projects and the people. And in some way it's just like A really cool. Because then you. I stuck here. I'd be looking at where then you're like, oh, what project is this? I mean, that's a really cool way to do it. I don't think anybody's done that, you know, so you're highlighting the people and the project and then maybe the call to action changes. So this one shows the project says our impact around the world, and then our. You know, and then it's just like our. I was gonna say our. It's another way for like our change makers around the world.

00:50:54

Roarke Clinton: Influencer. Influence.

00:50:56

Mariko Pitts: And then I was gonna say influencers too, because I was trying to stick with the eye thing, but. But it's like our change makers around the world or something.

00:51:05

Moenja Schijven: And do we need, like, if there's an ambassador with a project, we can have them like a little photo here and then maybe you can click on it and it shows you the investment.

00:51:18

Mariko Pitts: Yeah, I think. Or you mean the. Should we do at the very top, like the images, the headshot or something for the ambassador? Like instead of a square, maybe we make it some kind of. Or I guess it could be a square, but. But maybe a background. There's a standard background, but then there's an orange oval for the photo of them. A headshot that go in or something.

00:51:42

Moenja Schijven: Yeah, yeah, But I mean, when you're in the project page, so you're in the project view and let's say you're scrolling through the projects and you end up on a project, but it's at the same time it's a project from an ambassador.

00:51:59

Mariko Pitts: Oh, so we can link them. Yeah.

00:52:02

Moenja Schijven: Have like the middle headshot of the end. When you click on the headshot, it. It switches to the ambassador page.

00:52:10

Mariko Pitts: Yeah. If there's an ambassador connected to that project. Yeah.

00:52:14

Roarke Clinton: Projects under the ambassador.

00:52:17

Mariko Pitts: Yeah. And vice versa. Like it should be a link to the project or something.

00:52:21

Moenja Schijven: Yeah, yeah. Sorry, someone in front of the door. I just have to open. Quickness.

00:52:30

Mariko Pitts: Okay. I don't know, Rook, what do you think about that idea project thing together?

00:52:36

Roarke Clinton: I like it. I really enjoy that kind of the. The way that we can switch at the bottom to see the ambassadors around the world or the projects around the world. It's interesting. Like I don't have a project here, but I would be an ambassador here in Hawaii, you know?

00:52:58

Mariko Pitts: Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And doesn't limit anymore. Maybe they don't want to just be about projects and groups. Like it can still be about the individual making a difference too, you know?

00:53:09

Roarke Clinton: Right. Just standing in solidarity. You could sign up and be like, hey, I'm Exactly. Yeah.

00:53:17

Mariko Pitts: I actually think it's like our stewards.

00:53:20

Roarke Clinton: Yeah, I like stewards around.

00:53:22

Mariko Pitts: Yeah, Our stewards around the world. So it's like you click on ambassadors, but then it's like our stewards around the world is like the. The inspirational thing that before you hit the button to like join or, you know, it's got to be an inspirational button for the steward version or the ambassador one. Ambassador view.

00:53:44

Roarke Clinton: Munia. Could you try stewards instead of ambassadors? Or is that not what you were suggesting?

00:53:53

Mariko Pitts: No, I think it's. I'm not exactly sure right now. Let's use the standard term ambassador.

00:53:58

Roarke Clinton: Okay.

00:53:58

Mariko Pitts: That's what they essentially are until we come up with a different term. But I think at the very top, on the left, the top and the left before the button, it says our impact around the world is essentially a state impact statement before for the projects. Right. So it's the impact statement for the ambassador should be our stewards around the world.

00:54:17

Moenja Schijven: Yeah.

00:54:19

Mariko Pitts: So if I click on that, then that changes to our stewards around the world. Yeah, yeah. And then it would be a button underneath it that should just be like, become a steward or something. Become an ambassador or so I don't know, I gotta figure out the word for it. I want something tighter. People have been giving me some really silly ones and I'm not really that attached. I'm not liking it so much, so. But you know what I mean. So the button would be to. That's for them to submit to be, you know, their profile. But it's those simple things that change where you know, when you hit that the ambassador button or the project button, everything stays the same except for, I mean, the system changes and then the impact statement before the button changes and the button changes.

00:55:11

Moenja Schijven: Yeah, yeah. And yeah. So I have one more question now that we mainly focusing on this map. Is there any other information that we want to add like on other sections.

00:55:29

Roarke Clinton: That actually go too much down? What's that? Sorry, I interrupted you.

00:55:37

Moenja Schijven: I'm also worried that it will. We add too many sections with information, they get distracted and then actually the main focus point is then lost, which is the map.

00:55:48

Roarke Clinton: Yeah. What if. What if we tried, Mariko? What if it was mainly these three sections and then, you know, that base one essentially became like the foundational footer of, you know, why we're doing all of this. So it's the top is the updates and it's the world with these projects and the ambassadors. And then you go to the third section. It's just kind of the foundation of why everything is the way it is.

00:56:21

Mariko Pitts: Okay, what. What were we missing on the other side? Like, let me just see what we had in the original design you pitched two days ago. Like, what? We had the network. Right. And then was there another section and then there was the join part. Yeah, Y. I think it's also important. It also adds gravitas for the alliances, where the organizations come in. So I like the idea of. It doesn't have to be super interactive, I don't think. But I need something for the alliances, the partnerships that we have made, because there's just that different level, you know, that need to be showcased.

00:57:03

Roarke Clinton: Would they also be in the world?

00:57:06

Mariko Pitts: I mean, is that too much now?

00:57:09

Roarke Clinton: Well, I'm not sure. I mean, it's. It's actually. If we're. If we're going for this, like, interface.

00:57:15

Mariko Pitts: Yeah.

00:57:15

Roarke Clinton: One hard in it. Like, it could be really cool to show all that. But then, you know, it could be.

00:57:22

Mariko Pitts: It just might be a lot going on. But I mean, it could be. We could put, like, alliances, so it's ambassadors, the projects, and then alliances, and then. And then it'll turn to, like, the Choose Love movement organization, and then, you know, and it's wherever they're headquartered, I guess, you know, light on light, you know, that. That organization that we're partnered with, or there's a lot of them. You know what I mean? So it's like. And we can showcase where they are in the world. The pro. You know, the lines that we've made.

00:57:59

Roarke Clinton: I like that a lot. I mean, I think we could do it.

00:58:02

Mariko Pitts: And then that's. It takes one big map that really is like, the. It grabs everything. It's a lot more playing. But I like it. Alliances, ambassadors in the project. If it can handle it, I'm down.

00:58:18

Roarke Clinton: Yeah. I mean, we just have to consider how they all play with each other. So if we're looking at these projects now, they might also have a, you know, pictures of ambassador or people, and they might have alliance. Because an alliance might have a project. It might have ambassadors associated. So there's all these different associations and parts. We might be able to pull together and enrich the different views so it becomes that diamond, which we're looking at with different facets.

00:58:52

Mariko Pitts: Yeah. Yeah. It's just how it connects. I like the. My CLM kind of network that we're creating on this one map in a cool way, you know? Yeah. I think it's just that we. That's when we come with the form of how it connects and then make sure that in the system like for example the Choose Love Movement, the Alliance. Okay. Will probably be their logo would be the photo. Right. The ambassador is the founder, who's Scarlett Lewis, who is an actual massive ambassador for us. And then also her project is the co. Project that we're building together which is an entire curriculum that's going to be in 130 countries, you know, in the world. So you know that we're.

00:59:36

Mariko Pitts: We're bridging right now we're working on curriculum that's bridging quantum science and the holo movement principles into her already curriculum developed curriculum that's been. That's downloaded in over 130 countries in the world. Yeah. So like that's a big deal. So it's like the project. It can showcase that. But that's a, that's an example of three things connected together.

01:00:00

Roarke Clinton: Yeah, I really enjoy that as a, you know, being able to see that here and showcased at the top maybe at the, you know, if somebody lands on the projects or you determine which one is, you know, showing first. But if somebody lands on the projects, you could, you know, determine which one to showcase at the top or you know, determine if there's more important ones or most recent ones or you know, the user should be able to like, you know, filter and sort that stack pretty easily, seamlessly. Just determining which one you want to highlight, you know, based on the project that's most relevant to you at the time.

01:00:44

Mariko Pitts: I love it.

01:00:46

Roarke Clinton: And I actually love this three section or three view homepage. I'm going to change my terminology because sections you can just scroll through all the time. I think it's like a preview homepage where it's like you scroll between views by jumping and doing that little interaction. So they're much more full screen experiences that can be. Monia, you're doing awesome. I'm really loving this.

01:01:15

Mariko Pitts: Yeah, this is killing it. I love it. Probably one of the best websites I've seen so far. This is dope. This is pretty cool.

01:01:23

Moenja Schijven: Then also this part, we haven't talked much about it yet, but how are we gonna have the interaction over here? Like is each card going to another website or are like different pop up showing up?

01:01:38

Roarke Clinton: Yeah.

01:01:39

Mariko Pitts: Yeah. They probably should go to another page. Huh? What do you think? Yeah, I was thinking dedicated page.

01:01:44

Roarke Clinton: Yeah. A dedicated post page would launch like open up a page.

01:01:51

Moenja Schijven: Yeah. And maybe we should have like a number of categories or like media maybe.

01:02:02

Mariko Pitts: Yeah, I think media is important.

01:02:06

Moenja Schijven: There's always the category and talk and then it's going to the. To the page of the category. So the event page, the media page, the community page.

01:02:15

Mariko Pitts: Yeah, okay. I like that.

01:02:22

Moenja Schijven: Yeah, okay.

01:02:25

Mariko Pitts: I like it. I like it. I like it a lot.

01:02:28

Moenja Schijven: Yeah, me too. I'm curious how James will react.

01:02:36

Roarke Clinton: Maybe so. So what we're suggesting now is to reduce it from the number of views that we had before four on the homepage to three. And there's this view, there's the map view, and then there's the foundations view. And that's kind of like the why of everything, why you're doing all of this. That really helps us focus on the different plan of action that we might take.

01:03:07

Mariko Pitts: And do we need. Unless we need to join the whole amendment like, section page that we had. What was it? The, like four categories or something that's like right underneath it. Like, that's a different way of joining outside of just submitting. You know what I mean?

01:03:24

Roarke Clinton: Yeah. So what do you think? Would that be something we might keep be showing at the top of the overview page? I know that there's that little button that says sign up. Maybe you could change that to like join and it would launch kind of like, what does it mean to join experience. That would bring it up higher in the Higher.

01:03:50

Moenja Schijven: But I do feel I'm missing a little bit of the Join the movement.

01:03:55

Mariko Pitts: Yeah, I feel like I am too. I need that. That.

01:03:57

Moenja Schijven: Yeah.

01:03:58

Mariko Pitts: That call to join the movement. Because.

01:04:00

Moenja Schijven: Because if I'm. I would see this join us. I'm not sure. Like. Like I don't feel yet that it's pulling me in. Where. Yeah, if you really have like this big thing, you can read about it a little bit.

01:04:15

Mariko Pitts: I feel like that we need a section for the Join the whole of it. What that means. Yeah, yeah. And it helps to bring it together a bit.

01:04:24

Roarke Clinton: Yeah, I like it too. You're right.

01:04:26

Moenja Schijven: Yeah.

01:04:27

Mariko Pitts: And then I think explain it to.

01:04:29

Moenja Schijven: People and then pull them in. Right.

01:04:32

Roarke Clinton: Perfect.

01:04:33

Mariko Pitts: Yeah, exactly. I like it. I think that's. That's good.

01:04:38

Roarke Clinton: Yeah. I was starting to drift away, but now I'm coming back to it and it feels right.

01:04:44

Mariko Pitts: Yeah, Munia and I were like, we need a. Like a button at least to like, figure out what to do besides put my headshot on the web page.

01:04:53

Roarke Clinton: So maybe like up here at the heart homepage or the. I'm gonna say the overview view, you might have one of those cards actually highlighting the join capacity. I'm gonna jump you to this as well.

01:05:10

Moenja Schijven: Sorry, what did you like one of.

01:05:14

Roarke Clinton: The cards up on the overview page, you might actually, you know, right at the top, do more about getting people to join the movement, which you have in the very middle says join. So if I were to click that, like these cards could do several different things. They could open a link that's external site, it could open a page, it could jump you down to the bottom, which is the join the community or join the whole movement. So I'm just mentioning that we can talk about it there as well.

01:05:43

Moenja Schijven: Yeah, Yeah, I like that. And then maybe also enjoying the movement, we can add some pictures with people and people coming together.

01:05:57

Mariko Pitts: Yeah.

01:06:03

Moenja Schijven: Okay.

01:06:04

Mariko Pitts: Yeah, okay. I think I feel like that should cover it. So I'm just thinking about like what's on the main stuff of the. The media page. But that'll be one of the main things up there at the very top that'll open up to where theory of change documents are, the book, the ebook, the magazine, any of the podcasts. Well, not the podcast, but yeah, I guess we could click a button to podcast if they missed that. It could also be where the magazine is and that kind of thing. Then you have a direct page to the podcast. I think that's important. Community and other ways to get involved. Yeah, I think that pretty much covers it, doesn't it?

01:06:46

Moenja Schijven: And the newsletter.

01:06:48

Mariko Pitts: Yeah, yeah, newsletter. We gotta have the newsletter sign up. That's good. Yeah. To have that.

01:06:53

Moenja Schijven: Right.

01:06:53

Mariko Pitts: Are we gonna have to clear? Yeah, we probably should. What do you think?

01:06:59

Roarke Clinton: What do we have actually had a hard time hearing what you said there. Amuna, the footer.

01:07:05

Moenja Schijven: Wondering if we're gonna include a footer. A footer?

01:07:10

Mariko Pitts: I think so. Because after they've moved all the way down, they played with the map and all that, but if they can continue down, it's like, oh, yeah, well, let me sign up. I forgot at the bottom, it's like, that's a sign up for news. I think that's good. That feels pretty solid to me.

01:07:35

Moenja Schijven: Yeah, I think it's the complexity of the hol makes a little bit more easier.

01:07:42

Mariko Pitts: Yeah. But it's still dynamic and it really is impressive, actually. I feel like it's impressive and I.

01:07:50

Moenja Schijven: Think that the map will really showcase like the amount of impact that people approach and always involved. And then people.

01:07:58

Mariko Pitts: People will be like, well, no, yeah, then I. And then it's like fomo. I just want to. I want to get in here too. I want to join. Like, I'm like, yeah, like what do I sign up? Yeah, let me get this little Logo. Exactly. We need more in Australia. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. A little fomo, for sure. I'm like, where can I sign up? That looks. That looks pretty cool. Yeah.

01:08:26

Moenja Schijven: Okay, well, I will continue working on this for our next meeting.

01:08:31

Mariko Pitts: Okay. Oh, one thing, one more thing. Like, we're up on the very top. Could you know, where you have, like, the newsletter segment, maybe there's another segment that's a community spotlight section, and we spotlight one of the partners or we spotlight one of the projects, and it's just like, you know, and it's just like community spotlight, you know, and that's one box that is right front and center at the very top that will take people right to the map or to their section or whatever, or to the page of us really just, you know, giving a lot more effort or talking more about and encouraging people to follow them. But every month, you know, we're going to do that, and it's going to be in the email newsletters and all that too.

01:09:16

Mariko Pitts: But I do think it's really going to be cool to have a spotlight on the webpage right at the front. Yeah. So one of those boxes should be kind of like that.

01:09:25

Roarke Clinton: So that could be like a top. We. We could identify the ones that are above the fold as, like, top level. I don't know. Let's say the whole thing is just all those are spotlights on what we want and everything. As you're scrolling below, the fold of the other cards could be secondary spotlights, which could, you know, you could have a roll of. Or variations. Not really sure how they should be ordered yet.

01:09:56

Mariko Pitts: Well, I like that, you know, like whatever that was in the subject. I mean, the subject bar, the main menu bar, and a navigation bar. Those should be kind of the first tier. It's kind of like what you have already. It's like the vent is the wave. You've got the podcast, the media section, community events or whatever. I don't know what. We have media and then do we have community? I can't remember what's in it. The community is actually going to be broken up into like, some more of the map anyway, so. Because the map is where the partners are, the ambassadors now and the alliances. So I think. I don't know if we actually need community. It could be something else. Maybe that's where Hilo is or something like that, or. Or a WhatsApp group.

01:10:42

Mariko Pitts: You know, it's something where it takes you to our online community, you know, and then it's like, boom. It takes you right to joining the WhatsApp group, or right into that group or something. And then the next level down is like Community Spotlight, like the project or something, or Project Spotlight. And then there's Ambassador Spotlight, you know, or something like that. Maybe we do two of those. And that's cool, you know, but it doesn't have to be like the first five or six or, I mean, six or seven boxes at the first ones you see. I think it's just the next level down will be where a Community Spotlights for a specific project or a specific ambassador that we want to highlight. And that's going to be important because I.

01:11:28

Mariko Pitts: It gives me an incentive for the ambassador program and for projects to know that, like, once a month we're going to give them the monthly, you know, the monthly leader spotlight. It's going to go to someone, and it's really cool, you know. And I'm also now going to be investing more into, like, the podcast. So a lot of the ambassadors will probably interview. They'll have, like a whole thing. There will be a bit interviewing projects, you know, purposeful projects, obviously initiatives. So I think there's going to be. That's going to kind of beef up too, now. So just. Just noticing how everything connects is why I think it's so cool. And then you go to the map and they're all kind of layered there, you know, the individual, the collective. The individual purpose group, the collective purpose groups.

01:12:14

Mariko Pitts: And then you got the projects that. That people and groups are already doing in the world, and we showcase them all in one section.

01:12:25

Roarke Clinton: Yep, it's.

01:12:29

Mariko Pitts: That's pretty. Pretty cool.

01:12:30

Roarke Clinton: Seeming to simmer.

01:12:33

Mariko Pitts: Yeah, that's pretty cool, guys. That's really cool.

01:12:38

Moenja Schijven: So we call this page the Foundation.

01:12:43

Mariko Pitts: Yeah, the foundation page. I like that.

01:12:49

Moenja Schijven: Okay. Yes. I keep the four buttons here.

01:12:53

Mariko Pitts: Yeah, the foundational principles, the values. Yeah.

01:13:00

Roarke Clinton: Cool. So for Monday, what are we thinking if there's. How do we want to proceed? What. What do we want to see on Monday? That's the big question.

01:13:15

Mariko Pitts: What do we want to see on Monday? I guess we need to. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I guess if there's another way of Join the movement, I need to actually get access to that. I need to kind of look at that. The Join the Movement section. Do we want it to just kind of be four squares that, you know, you click on it and it takes you. I think some of them are hyperlinks to forms or. I got to look and see exactly what the hell it is. I haven't looked at it in a while, but I think something similar blocks, four blocks. I think that's fine with some text. Keep it simple. Or maybe something different. Because actually the transition before that is just eight blocks.

01:13:59

Mariko Pitts: There's something else we want it to look like instead of just another showing in a block.

01:14:05

Moenja Schijven: Yeah. Yeah, maybe with an image, I was thinking.

01:14:10

Mariko Pitts: Yeah, could be in the background.

01:14:13

Moenja Schijven: It's with a lot of people together like that. It gives a community thing.

01:14:18

Mariko Pitts: Oh, okay. Yeah. Image in the background. Yeah, that's better. That breaks it up a bit better. I like it.

01:14:31

Moenja Schijven: And then text and a call to action in the background. Or it could be a video in the background.

01:14:41

Mariko Pitts: Yeah, maybe. Yeah, either text, photo, or video. That's cool, huh?

01:14:49

Roarke Clinton: I like this. Not loading the whole, like, home page at the same time. You know, we're, you know, more optimized to load various parts of it. This will be good.

01:15:11

Mariko Pitts: Okay, so, yeah, I guess back to Monday. Is there anything else that we need to showcase or how are we feeling about this? I think it's important that Rourke and I try to figure out what the hell. How we're going to link all three of these things with the forms, you know, what the. What that would look like. But from a design perspective, is we missing anything? I feel like we're really covering a lot right now.

01:15:36

Moenja Schijven: Yeah. Yeah. I feel like I can continue a little bit more with like, the design and the details and things.

01:15:46

Mariko Pitts: Yeah.

01:15:46

Moenja Schijven: Then I feel that's quite a lot already for maybe the developer to take over as well.

01:15:53

Mariko Pitts: Yeah, I think so. I don't know. What do you think?

01:15:57

Roarke Clinton: I think that we're still, like, we're. We're starting to see something that really looks good and has a lot of momentum behind it. I think that there's still a lot of questions, and I would want Ivan to look at it. I want James to look at it. I'd want to, you know, start to ask questions about what, you know, what could be done first, second, third, and where. I. I think that there are questions for me around requirements of submitting projects or signing up as an ambassador or signing up as a. As a, you know, as somebody who's actually part of your. What is it like one of. One of your. Sorry, I'm losing my. My mind here for a second because I'm watching. I'm not actually moving around on the screen myself here. There we go. Alliance members, like, do they.

01:16:57

Roarke Clinton: For instance, if I can create projects or if I can, you know, sign up as an ambassador, how. How do I get in touch to become an alliance member? That's what I was trying to see when I was watching. But yeah, there's several different forms that we're talking about, including. And there's several I think we need to look into, like, inspiration. So, like the product hunt, how there's submitting projects there, thinking about different features or functionality that's necessary in any given one of these views.

01:17:40

Moenja Schijven: Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So I can focus on that for Monday?

01:17:47

Roarke Clinton: Yeah, I think that's a really good push. I think breaking out the functionality and really describing it, like in each one of these cases, what we're needing. Requiring.

01:18:06

Mariko Pitts: Yeah. Okay. So do you want to just talk it over with Ivonne and get an idea first of how we can figure out the. The data and the. The G data capture, how that works together, and we can come back on Monday with that focus on that aspect while she dials in a little bit more of the design?

01:18:27

Roarke Clinton: Yeah, that works for me.

01:18:29

Mariko Pitts: Yeah. Okay.

01:18:31

Moenja Schijven: Okay.

01:18:32

Mariko Pitts: Yeah. And if you need me or something on Monday earlier or something before the call, I can always, you know, talk through some stuff to. If we need to. A little bit more time will do.

01:18:41

Roarke Clinton: Yeah.

01:18:42

Mariko Pitts: Or even on Friday or something, if you thought about it already. Okay.

01:18:47

Roarke Clinton: Yeah, that sounds perfect. Is there anything you think you need from us?

01:19:01

Moenja Schijven: No, I think it's all clear. And then if I come across anything, I will leave a comment.

01:19:09

Mariko Pitts: Okay.

01:19:10

Moenja Schijven: Yeah. If I need any information.

01:19:15

Mariko Pitts: Yeah, sounds great. This is. This is really good. I like it. I think we're on to something. Feels really good.

01:19:21

Moenja Schijven: Yeah.

01:19:22

Mariko Pitts: Let's see how we can make it come to reality.

01:19:26

Roarke Clinton: We'll do that.

01:19:28

Mariko Pitts: Yeah.

01:19:30

Roarke Clinton: All right.

01:19:31

Mariko Pitts: All right, team.

01:19:32

Roarke Clinton: Hey, great job.

01:19:33

Mariko Pitts: Great job it up.

01:19:34

Roarke Clinton: And we'll look forward to catching up on Monday, same time and have some of that. That work done.

01:19:42

Moenja Schijven: Okay. Thank you.

01:19:44

Mariko Pitts: Thank you, guys.

01:19:45

Roarke Clinton: Thank you. See you.

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